Re: The VDG

2018-09-20 Thread Nate Graham

On 09/20/2018 09:07 PM, Stef Bon wrote:

To start, we need a location on the Internet, starting with
documentation, where it's easy to write/create (2d at least) drawings
and formulas.

Do you agree?


We use Phabricator for this--both Maniphest Tasks and also Pholio 
Mockups (though we're still kind of trying to figure out how to use 
Pholio!).


Do you find that this stuff isn't working out for you?

Nate



Re: Call for contributors for Fixture [ Qt5 based raster graphics editor ]

2018-09-20 Thread Nate Graham




On 09/20/2018 08:10 PM, Kuntal Majumder wrote:

Hi
   On Fri, 21 Sep 2018 02:27:11 +0530 Nate Graham  wrote 
  > People who want Photoshop will always want Photoshop. Not a clone, not a 
look-alike--only the real thing will do. People who are flexible will learn how to 
use GIMP--and these days, especially Krita, which is becoming a serious Photoshop 
competitor for many workflows. My wife uses it for art instead of Photoshop. It's 
awesome.

True, I am not targeting the serious users of Photoshop here, but casual users 
who only use a smaller set of features which Photoshop offers but the with 
almost the same UX.

  > My advice would be to join an existing project to make it even better 
rather than start a new one. I see that your project has only two contributors. 
That is a very low bus factor. Experience shows that small projects like these 
will very likely be abandoned in a few years (sad but true), while larger projects 
are immortal. Krita is experiencing a real surge of interest right now, and I'm 
sure the developers would love to have you on board! Check out 
https://community.kde.org/Krita for more information.

Yes, we are only 2 people, that is why I am looking out for contributors who 
can help. And as far as Krita goes, I do already have a patch into it. ;-D


To be honest, It's a little bit inconsiderate to try to entice KDE 
developers away from contributing to KDE's own offering in favor of 
yours. Open source development resources are always very limited, which 
is why it's so important that we collaborate wherever possible rather 
than reinventing the wheel. It's great that you've gotten started with 
Krita development! The project can always use more talented developers 
who are passionate about the subject. If you think Krita has UI issues 
that impair users migrating from Photoshop, I suspect that's something 
the developers would like to hear about. You may discover that they 
share your goals. :)



Nate



Re: Call for contributors for Fixture [ Qt5 based raster graphics editor ]

2018-09-20 Thread Kuntal Majumder
Hi
  On Fri, 21 Sep 2018 02:27:11 +0530 Nate Graham  wrote  
 > People who want Photoshop will always want Photoshop. Not a clone, not a 
 > look-alike--only the real thing will do. People who are flexible will learn 
 > how to use GIMP--and these days, especially Krita, which is becoming a 
 > serious Photoshop competitor for many workflows. My wife uses it for art 
 > instead of Photoshop. It's awesome. 

True, I am not targeting the serious users of Photoshop here, but casual users 
who only use a smaller set of features which Photoshop offers but the with 
almost the same UX.

 > My advice would be to join an existing project to make it even better rather 
 > than start a new one. I see that your project has only two contributors. 
 > That is a very low bus factor. Wxperience shows that small projects like 
 > these will very likely be abandoned in a few years (sad but true), while 
 > larger projects are immortal. Krita is experiencing a real surge of interest 
 > right now, and I'm sure the developers would love to have you on board! 
 > Check out https://community.kde.org/Krita for more information. 

Yes, we are only 2 people, that is why I am looking out for contributors who 
can help. And as far as Krita goes, I do already have a patch into it. ;-D

Thanks 
Kuntal M



Re: Call for contributors for Fixture [ Qt5 based raster graphics editor ]

2018-09-20 Thread Kuntal Majumder
Hi
  On Fri, 21 Sep 2018 01:14:50 +0530 Jaroslaw Staniek  
wrote  
 > 
 > Thanks for contacting the KDE community, Kuntal! Everyone can to the NIH 
 > route but since you reach the KDE community, this would be my first 
 > technical advice: look at ways of using KF5 instead of implementing its 
 > functionality like any non-trivial Qt app would have to do anyway.

Sure, we are currently looking to use KImageFormats to expand out ability to 
import multiple file types.
 
 > And since Linux is a cancer... consider joining KDE - use the KDE 
 > infrastructure instead of MS infra :)

Who is using MS infra here? :P

Thanks 

Kuntal M



Re: Call for contributors for Fixture [ Qt5 based raster graphics editor ]

2018-09-20 Thread Nate Graham
People who want Photoshop will always want Photoshop. Not a clone, not a 
look-alike--only the real thing will do. People who are flexible will learn how 
to use GIMP--and these days, especially Krita, which is becoming a serious 
Photoshop competitor for many workflows. My wife uses it for art instead of 
Photoshop. It's awesome.

My advice would be to join an existing project to make it even better rather 
than start a new one. I see that your project has only two contributors. That 
is a very low bus factor. Wxperience shows that small projects like these will 
very likely be abandoned in a few years (sad but true), while larger projects 
are immortal. Krita is experiencing a real surge of interest right now, and I'm 
sure the developers would love to have you on board! Check out 
https://community.kde.org/Krita for more information.

Nate


  On Thu, 20 Sep 2018 11:57:48 -0700 Kuntal Majumder  
wrote  
 > Hi 
 > I am Kuntal, as a Linux evangelist, when I try to convince someone to use 
 > Linux, most of the time I face questions like "Does Linux support 
 > Photoshop?", at the end of the day the discussion mostly concludes with "You 
 > can use Gimp or Krita". Both though pretty powerful have a very different 
 > workflow compared to Photoshop for which most people are reluctant to switch 
 > to Linux even though they require a pretty small set of features from what 
 > Photoshop offers. So a couple us are trying to build a raster graphics 
 > editor which looks and behaves similar to Photoshop with the help of Qt5. 
 > But thanks to our inexperience, every now and then we are facing roadblocks 
 > for which we rewrote the stuff a couple of times. We would love some help 
 > from you guys, better if you can correct us where we are going wrong. 
 > You can find the source code here[1]. 
 >  
 > Thanks 
 > Kuntal M 
 >  
 > [1] https://github.com/eyeon/Fixture 
 >  
 > 




Re: Call for contributors for Fixture [ Qt5 based raster graphics editor ]

2018-09-20 Thread Jaroslaw Staniek
Thanks for contacting the KDE community, Kuntal! Everyone can to the NIH
route but since you reach the KDE community, this would be my first
technical advice: look at ways of using KF5 instead of implementing its
functionality like any non-trivial Qt app would have to do anyway.

And since Linux is a cancer... consider joining KDE - use the KDE
infrastructure instead of MS infra :)

On Thu, 20 Sep 2018 at 20:58, Kuntal Majumder  wrote:

> Hi
> I am Kuntal, as a Linux evangelist, when I try to convince someone to use
> Linux, most of the time I face questions like "Does Linux support
> Photoshop?", at the end of the day the discussion mostly concludes with
> "You can use Gimp or Krita". Both though pretty powerful have a very
> different workflow compared to Photoshop for which most people are
> reluctant to switch to Linux even though they require a pretty small set of
> features from what Photoshop offers. So a couple us are trying to build a
> raster graphics editor which looks and behaves similar to Photoshop with
> the help of Qt5. But thanks to our inexperience, every now and then we are
> facing roadblocks for which we rewrote the stuff a couple of times. We
> would love some help from you guys, better if you can correct us where we
> are going wrong.
> You can find the source code here[1].
>
> Thanks
> Kuntal M
>
> [1] https://github.com/eyeon/Fixture
>
>

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Call for contributors for Fixture [ Qt5 based raster graphics editor ]

2018-09-20 Thread Kuntal Majumder
Hi
I am Kuntal, as a Linux evangelist, when I try to convince someone to use 
Linux, most of the time I face questions like "Does Linux support Photoshop?", 
at the end of the day the discussion mostly concludes with "You can use Gimp or 
Krita". Both though pretty powerful have a very different workflow compared to 
Photoshop for which most people are reluctant to switch to Linux even though 
they require a pretty small set of features from what Photoshop offers. So a 
couple us are trying to build a raster graphics editor which looks and behaves 
similar to Photoshop with the help of Qt5. But thanks to our inexperience, 
every now and then we are facing roadblocks for which we rewrote the stuff a 
couple of times. We would love some help from you guys, better if you can 
correct us where we are going wrong.
You can find the source code here[1].

Thanks
Kuntal M

[1] https://github.com/eyeon/Fixture



Re: papercut keyword for bug.kde.org

2018-09-20 Thread Albert Astals Cid
El dijous, 20 de setembre de 2018, a les 19:54:16 CEST, Boudewijn Rempt va 
escriure:
> On donderdag 20 september 2018 19:29:11 CEST Albert Astals Cid wrote:
> > El dijous, 20 de setembre de 2018, a les 16:28:48 CEST, Boudewijn Rempt va 
> escriure:
> > > Hi,
> > > 
> > > Would there be any problem with adding the 'papercut' keywoard to the set
> > > of keywoards we can use, like regression, release_blocker and so on?
> > 
> > What would be the difference between papercut and junior-job?
> > 
> 
> A papercut can be really complicated to fix, code-wise, while a junior-job 
> should be straight-forward and easy.

So the paper cut is then a usability improvement? We have an usability keyword 
too.

Cheers,
  Albert 
 






Re: papercut keyword for bug.kde.org

2018-09-20 Thread Boudewijn Rempt
On donderdag 20 september 2018 19:29:11 CEST Albert Astals Cid wrote:
> El dijous, 20 de setembre de 2018, a les 16:28:48 CEST, Boudewijn Rempt va 
escriure:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > Would there be any problem with adding the 'papercut' keywoard to the set
> > of keywoards we can use, like regression, release_blocker and so on?
> 
> What would be the difference between papercut and junior-job?
> 

A papercut can be really complicated to fix, code-wise, while a junior-job 
should be straight-forward and easy.

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KDE will have a booth at ELC Europe

2018-09-20 Thread Paul Brown
Hi,

As you know by now, KDE will have a booth at the Embedded Linux Conference 
which will be held in Edinburgh. We'll be showcasing all things KDE for 
embedded: phones, SBCs, netbooks, IVI devices, etc..

https://events.linuxfoundation.org/events/elc-openiot-europe-2018/

We are looking for volunteers to help us staff the booth and pull everything 
together:

https://phabricator.kde.org/T8170

If you would like to help out, please get in touch or join the task and let us 
know through the comments.

If you want to help promote this event, here is a directory with banners:

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1tVyhBaMP5u4u3H1Xmm-cUA73LdcIx36g

Thanks and cheers,

Paul
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papercut keyword for bug.kde.org

2018-09-20 Thread Boudewijn Rempt
Hi,

Would there be any problem with adding the 'papercut' keywoard to the set of 
keywoards we can use, like regression, release_blocker and so on?
-- 
https://www.valdyas.org | https://www.krita.org