Re: vote invitation sent out for goal voting

[Nicolás Alvarez]

El jue., 22 de ago. de 2019 a la(s) 22:13, Myriam Schweingruber
(myr...@kde.org) escribió:
> Any particular reason I got this survey request twice? That gives me 
> technically two votes, so there might be something wrong, especially if I am 
> not the only one who got this twice.

Did you get them on the same email address? Lydia sent it to all
developers and all mailing list subscribers. Maybe your developer
account and your mailing list subscription have different addresses,
so you got one on each.

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Nicolás

Re: vote invitation sent out for goal voting

[Myriam Schweingruber]

Hi all,


On Fri, 23 Aug 2019 at 00:18, Lydia Pintscher  wrote:

Any particular reason I got this survey request twice? That gives me
technically two votes, so there might be something wrong, especially if I
am not the only one who got this twice.

Also: it says we have to choose at least 10 items (out of 11), then you
can't conclude without actually selecting all of them. What kind of vote is
that if I can't just ignore some of them? Why not actually making a
Condorcet ballot to ensure it has some real meaning?

So much for the technical side of that vote, but:

This might be my Swiss side, but I am not really happy with this kind of
"voting". Who chose the questions? Why not making a ballot for the
questions first?

I have seen simple mails from Lydia and Neophytos about setting new goals
with links to blogs I had already read on the Planet, reading diagonally
and actually missing the participation link, but we were not reminded to
take this more seriously and participate actively, especially since the
last time we set ourselves some goals we didn't exactly reach them to say
the least. Last time all KDE project mailing lists were asked to
participate, did I miss some mails? With busy schedules on all active
projects, community list only mails are not necessarily high priority for
many.

I for myself have pushed the re-reading of all this since June, and
suddenly it's August and we are supposed to decide about something that has
only just started, and this in a period of the year where we are either
extremely busy or already on a holiday (might vary in other regions).

I am pretty sure that many simply have not been aware about this, and
judging from Bouds reaction he is as surprised as I am about the goal set.

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Re: vote invitation sent out for goal voting

[Lydia Pintscher]

On Thu, Aug 22, 2019 at 11:31 PM Alexander Potashev
 wrote:
> Thank you Lydia!
>
> What is the deadline for the "ballot" to be considered/counted?

Hi Alexander,

The survey is set to close at  03.09.2019 23:59 and I assume this is UTC.
I will send a reminder to those who have not voted a few days before
the deadline.

Cheers
Lydia

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Re: vote invitation sent out for goal voting

[Alexander Potashev]

Thank you Lydia!

What is the deadline for the "ballot" to be considered/counted?

On Thu, Aug 22, 2019, 22:42 Lydia Pintscher  wrote:

> Hey folks,
>
> I have just sent out the emails with links to this year's goal survey.
> All the final proposals are here:
> https://phabricator.kde.org/tag/goal_setting_2019/
> The invitation went out to everyone subscribed to this mailinglist as
> well as everyone with a developer account. If you did not receive it
> but are an active contributor to KDE please send me an email off-list
> to sort it out.
> I'm really sorry that it has taken me longer than I wanted. I ran into
> a few obstacles setting everything up during a conference.
>
>
> Cheers
> Lydia
>
> --
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> KDE e.V. Board of Directors
> http://kde.org - http://open-advice.org
>

Re: vote invitation sent out for goal voting

[Clemens Toennies]

Hi,

it feels a bit weird to have to choose 10+ answers. 1-3 minimum should be
viable, to not skew results in some form imo.

Greetings, Clemens.

Re: vote invitation sent out for goal voting

[Nate Graham]

Thanks very much, Lydia, for coordinating this process and making it happen!

I think these goals are fantastic, and I found voting to be somewhat 
challenging because of just how many of them made me feel excited. I 
think the KDE community will be well-served by focusing on whichever 
ones get chosen.


Nate

Re: vote invitation sent out for goal voting

[Nate Graham]

On 8/22/19 2:28 PM, Boudewijn Rempt wrote:

Sorry, these all are... Irrelevant, incomprehensible, ineligible or inconsiderable. 
Besides, the previous set of goals has not been achieved by a country mile. There is 
nothing whatsoever in this set of "goals" that I could get behind even 
tangentially.


Well, when you don't participate in the process, it might not produce 
the results you like. At this point I guess you can protest by not 
voting and ignoring whichever goals get chosen.


Nate

vote invitation sent out for goal voting

[Lydia Pintscher]

Hey folks,

I have just sent out the emails with links to this year's goal survey.
All the final proposals are here:
https://phabricator.kde.org/tag/goal_setting_2019/
The invitation went out to everyone subscribed to this mailinglist as
well as everyone with a developer account. If you did not receive it
but are an active contributor to KDE please send me an email off-list
to sort it out.
I'm really sorry that it has taken me longer than I wanted. I ran into
a few obstacles setting everything up during a conference.


Cheers
Lydia

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