Re: Planet KDE posts not about KDE (was: Re: Please don't make planet.kde.org into a politics feed)

2019-12-10 Thread Martin Klapetek
On Tue, Dec 10, 2019 at 8:01 PM Philippe Cloutier  wrote:

> Le 2019-12-05 à 10:45, Nate Graham a écrit :
> >
> >
> > On 12/5/19 8:01 AM, Dominik Haumann wrote:
> >> On Thu, Dec 5, 2019 at 1:24 PM Eike Hein  wrote:
> >>> But they don't, so your calculation is about solving a problem that
> >>> doesn't currently exist.
> >>
> >> +1
> >>
> >
> > +2, let's propose fixing the problem when there actually is a problem,
> > not when we suspect that there might at some future point be a problem
> > if people don't behave well.
>
>
> I'm afraid the problem is already there. The problem starts from the
> moment a member posts an unrelated post, when someone who is not
> interested in it starts reading.
>

But how is that problem of the Planet? If the reader decides to
read something, then the reader can't blame the medium for giving
them the opportunity to read that. It's always up to readers to decide
whether they want to read something or not. The choice is theirs already.

That said, I also see no issue with occasional not-entirely-KDE-related
posts on the Planet. If I'm not interested in a post, I simply scroll
past it.

Cheers
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Martin Klapetek


Planet KDE posts not about KDE (was: Re: Please don't make planet.kde.org into a politics feed)

2019-12-10 Thread Philippe Cloutier

Le 2019-12-05 à 10:45, Nate Graham a écrit :



On 12/5/19 8:01 AM, Dominik Haumann wrote:

On Thu, Dec 5, 2019 at 1:24 PM Eike Hein  wrote:
But they don't, so your calculation is about solving a problem that 
doesn't currently exist.


+1



+2, let's propose fixing the problem when there actually is a problem, 
not when we suspect that there might at some future point be a problem 
if people don't behave well.



I'm afraid the problem is already there. The problem starts from the 
moment a member posts an unrelated post, when someone who is not 
interested in it starts reading.



I would prefer to put my trust in the community behaving well so we 
don't need a bunch of rules to govern behavior.



The rule is already there. What Christian proposed is not a rule, but a 
filter to allow readers to get a feed better matching what they look for.


That being said, while Christian's proposal is not bad, in reality, 
every one of us is somewhere on a spectrum of interest for blog posts 
about KDE, and somewhere on a spectrum of interest for blog posts by KDE 
contributors about topics other than KDE. I believe the best solution 
can only be reached by defining each post's level of KDE interest and 
level of non-KDE interest, and each reader's position on these spectrums.


In fact, in particular for cases like politics, for which some people 
have very little interest while some have a lot, collaborative filtering 
would provide the very best results. But realistically, that would 
require too much investment, unless this is implemented for more than 
Planet KDE, also for other KDE systems.


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Philippe Cloutier
http://www.philippecloutier.com