El dimecres, 26 d’agost de 2020, a les 3:16:13 CEST, Valorie Zimmerman va escriure: > Unfortunately 9 UTC = 2 am here. But I will submit some notes about it. -v
Then it's a good thing i put it at 17UTC and not 9 UTC ;) Cheers, Albert > > On Tue, Aug 25, 2020 at 2:28 PM Albert Astals Cid <aa...@kde.org> wrote: > > > El dijous, 23 de juliol de 2020, a les 0:31:29 CEST, Albert Astals Cid va > > escriure: > > > Dear Community, > > > > > > One important part of mailing lists being healthy is > > owners/moderators[1]. > > > > > > They moderate the lists, they help users that want to > > subscribe/unsubscribe but don't know how to, they enact emergency > > moderation in the very very seldom case that it is needed, etc. > > > > > > So to keep our mailing lists healthy we need to be sure to have healthy > > list owners. > > > > > > In plural, more than one, because from time to time, we go on vacation > > and the list duties still need taking care of. > > > > > > For that I'd like to enact this policy: > > > > > > Mailing lists should have at least 2 active owners, ideally 3 > > [Obviously exceptions apply, like if we just started a mailing list to > > coordinate translators for a language that has no translation in KDE yet, > > we'd probably have no way to get 2 list owners] > > > > > > One keyword in that sentence is "active". > > > > > > Mailing list ownership/moderation un-activity is hard to detect. > > > > > > One way to potentially detect it, is by those summaries that sysadmin > > sends periodically for lists with lots of mails to moderate, but that > > doesn't cover all the cases. > > > > > > For example, it's possible that a mailing list has 2 owners and only one > > of them is inactive, since the other one is keeping the list in working > > condition we don't see it as a problem, but if that person goes on holiday, > > then it suddenly is. > > > > > > For that I'd like to enact this policy sub-point: > > > > > > Mailing list owners will be contacted every year asking if they are > > still active and if they want to continue being list owner or if they'd > > prefer we find a substitute. > > > > > > If they say "please find a substitute" or fail to answer in a given time > > frame (I'd say a month is fair), they will be removed as owners and in case > > the "at least 2 active owners, ideally 3" policy is broken we'll find a new > > person. > > > > > > Does that sound something like we could agree on? > > > > > > Then the big question is "who will do this work?" Because it seems quite > > a bit of work (albeit only once a year). I would suggest the Community > > Working Group does this, as it's a way to keep our community healthy, but i > > understand it's quite some work, so i volunteer to do it if the CWG doesn't > > feel this is a task they want to take on. > > > > > > Things I'm missing? > > > > > > Improvement suggestions? > > > > So it seems there was some agreement that is something that could improve > > but we didn't 100% agree on what to do. I've scheduled an Akademy BoF, > > hopefully we can reach to a conclusion there. > > > > https://community.kde.org/Akademy/2020/Tuesday#Room_02_-_8th_September > > > > Cheers, > > Albert > > > > > > > > Cheers, > > > Albert > > > > > > [1] yes, i know they are not the same, but since one is a subset of the > > other, let's pretend they are. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >