Re: Inactive mailing lists
On Friday, 28 April 2023 09:12:46 PDT Volker Krause wrote: > - kde-scm-interest: this was used for coordinating the migration to Git, > something that is long done. Since then, kde-scm-interest has become the place to ask for help using the tool for other projects. There were posts by third parties in 2017, 2019 and 2020, which did get answered. One post from June 2022 did not get an answer and was the last post on the mailing list until Joseph's last week. That said, I don't think we should keep the list. All the knowledge we once had about the tool we wrote and used is long gone. -- Thiago Macieira - thiago (AT) macieira.info - thiago (AT) kde.org Software Architect - Intel DCAI Cloud Engineering
Re: Inactive mailing lists
On 5/3/23 09:36, Helio Chissini de Castro wrote: Hi I do think that kde-latam is been seeing zero traffic aside some sporadic spam, and i do not see reason to continue to exists, but Tomaz should have better opinion. []'s I see kde-latam has no description in the listing and I could not find any info in the wiki at community.kde.org about the list: https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/ Perhaps updating that and adding information at the community wiki will help new subscribers find the list? As mentioned in a previous email, you may also consider moving the group to Discuss, where there is more opportunity for visibilty in the wider KDE community. There is already a high-level category for local communities in Discuss. https://discuss.kde.org/t/about-the-local-communities-category/688 Reach out to me if I can help at all. Cheers, Joseph -- Joseph P. De Veaugh-Geiss KDE Internal Communications & KDE Eco Community Manager OpenPGP: 8FC5 4178 DC44 AD55 08E7 DF57 453E 5746 59A6 C06F Matrix: @joseph:kde.org Generally available Monday-Thursday from 10-16h CET/CEST. Outside of these times it may take a little longer for me to respond. KDE Eco: Building Energy-Efficient Free Software! Website: https://eco.kde.org Mastodon: @be4foss@floss.social
Re: Inactive mailing lists
On 5/3/23 09:31, Milian Wolff wrote: On Freitag, 28. April 2023 00:10:25 CEST Nicolas Fella wrote: Am 27.04.23 um 23:42 schrieb Joseph P. De Veaugh-Geiss: Cross-posting to the relevant mailing lists. To discuss, please answer to kde-community@kde.org. ## Currently Inactive With Almost No Previous Activity [5 lists] * Heaptrack: https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/heaptrack This list sees basically no traffic, but in general is the recommended channel to talk about heaptrack. Many people instead just contact me directly, which is unfortunate but c'est la vie. I would like to keep the list open, it doesn't hurt anyone, does it? Yes, of course, let's keep it open! Thanks Thank you! Joseph -- Joseph P. De Veaugh-Geiss KDE Internal Communications & KDE Eco Community Manager OpenPGP: 8FC5 4178 DC44 AD55 08E7 DF57 453E 5746 59A6 C06F Matrix: @joseph:kde.org Generally available Monday-Thursday from 10-16h CET/CEST. Outside of these times it may take a little longer for me to respond. KDE Eco: Building Energy-Efficient Free Software! Website: https://eco.kde.org Mastodon: @be4foss@floss.social
Re: Inactive mailing lists
On 5/1/23 16:07, Sune Vuorela wrote: On 2023-04-30, Joseph P. De Veaugh-Geiss wrote: [Low traffic lists with relevant subscribers] In my opinion moving discussions to more active channels like Matrix or Discuss may increase visibility of the topics discussed and encourage participation from the larger community. Such migrations are likely already happening, organically. One thing to be very aware of though is that it might separate the people who has the answers (the current subscribed people) with the people who has the questions (the people we now redirect elsewhere) Unless we can get the current subscribed people to also move to the new platform, this might not be a good idea. Agree. If groups want to keep a mailing list open and use another platform at the same time, which I think most will do, information can be provided to subscribers about what other communication channels exist. The Visual Design Group's mailing list description provides a good template for how to inform subscribers about where to get relevant information and interact with the community (although their Matrix channel is missing): https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/visual-design Also, being subscribed to a low traffic email list is rarely something people actually notice, so the people is likely to stay around for a longer time. The UI of mail clients and subscriptions rarely get in the way for that. I agree with this point. I don't know how it is for new subscribers, though. It may be suboptimal for a new KDE contributor to go through the process of signing up to a list and finding a dormant community. I wonder if, for at least some groups, it may be better to move from mailing lists to a higher-activity platform like Discuss, where there is more opportunity for visibilty in the wider community. Specifically, I am thinking of the "Local communities" groups, for which there is already a high-level category in Discuss. https://discuss.kde.org/t/about-the-local-communities-category/688 Just an example, and other groups may also benefit from such a move. The ui of e.g. Matrix very much gets in the way of staying in 200 low traffic channels. This is an excellent point re Matrix and low traffic channels. I fully share this opinion. Cheers, Joseph /Sune -- Joseph P. De Veaugh-Geiss KDE Internal Communications & KDE Eco Community Manager OpenPGP: 8FC5 4178 DC44 AD55 08E7 DF57 453E 5746 59A6 C06F Matrix: @joseph:kde.org Generally available Monday-Thursday from 10-16h CET/CEST. Outside of these times it may take a little longer for me to respond. KDE Eco: Building Energy-Efficient Free Software! Website: https://eco.kde.org Mastodon: @be4foss@floss.social
Re: Inactive mailing lists
Hi I do think that kde-latam is been seeing zero traffic aside some sporadic spam, and i do not see reason to continue to exists, but Tomaz should have better opinion. []'s On Wed, May 3, 2023 at 9:32 AM Milian Wolff wrote: > On Freitag, 28. April 2023 00:10:25 CEST Nicolas Fella wrote: > > Am 27.04.23 um 23:42 schrieb Joseph P. De Veaugh-Geiss: > > > Cross-posting to the relevant mailing lists. > > > > > > To discuss, please answer to kde-community@kde.org. > > > > > > ## Currently Inactive With Almost No Previous Activity [5 lists] > > > > > > * Heaptrack: https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/heaptrack > > This list sees basically no traffic, but in general is the recommended > channel > to talk about heaptrack. Many people instead just contact me directly, > which > is unfortunate but c'est la vie. > > I would like to keep the list open, it doesn't hurt anyone, does it? > > Thanks > -- > Milian Wolff > m...@milianw.de > http://milianw.de
Re: Inactive mailing lists
On Freitag, 28. April 2023 00:10:25 CEST Nicolas Fella wrote: > Am 27.04.23 um 23:42 schrieb Joseph P. De Veaugh-Geiss: > > Cross-posting to the relevant mailing lists. > > > > To discuss, please answer to kde-community@kde.org. > > ## Currently Inactive With Almost No Previous Activity [5 lists] > > > > * Heaptrack: https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/heaptrack This list sees basically no traffic, but in general is the recommended channel to talk about heaptrack. Many people instead just contact me directly, which is unfortunate but c'est la vie. I would like to keep the list open, it doesn't hurt anyone, does it? Thanks -- Milian Wolff m...@milianw.de http://milianw.de signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.