Re: Inactive mailing lists

2023-05-03 Thread Thiago Macieira
On Friday, 28 April 2023 09:12:46 PDT Volker Krause wrote:
> - kde-scm-interest: this was used for coordinating the migration to Git,
> something that is long done.

Since then, kde-scm-interest has become the place to ask for help using the 
tool for other projects. There were posts by third parties in 2017, 2019 and 
2020, which did get answered. One post from June 2022 did not get an answer 
and was the last post on the mailing list until Joseph's last week.

That said, I don't think we should keep the list. All the knowledge we once 
had about the tool we wrote and used is long gone.

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   Software Architect - Intel DCAI Cloud Engineering





Re: Inactive mailing lists

2023-05-03 Thread Joseph P. De Veaugh-Geiss

On 5/3/23 09:36, Helio Chissini de Castro wrote:

Hi

I do think that kde-latam is been seeing zero traffic aside some sporadic
spam, and i do not see reason to continue to exists, but Tomaz should have
better opinion.

[]'s



I see kde-latam has no description in the listing and I could not find 
any info in the wiki at community.kde.org about the list:


  https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/

Perhaps updating that and adding information at the community wiki will 
help new subscribers find the list?


As mentioned in a previous email, you may also consider moving the group 
to Discuss, where there is more opportunity for visibilty in the wider 
KDE community. There is already a high-level category for local 
communities in Discuss.


  https://discuss.kde.org/t/about-the-local-communities-category/688

Reach out to me if I can help at all.

Cheers,
Joseph

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Re: Inactive mailing lists

2023-05-03 Thread Joseph P. De Veaugh-Geiss

On 5/3/23 09:31, Milian Wolff wrote:

On Freitag, 28. April 2023 00:10:25 CEST Nicolas Fella wrote:

Am 27.04.23 um 23:42 schrieb Joseph P. De Veaugh-Geiss:

Cross-posting to the relevant mailing lists.

To discuss, please answer to kde-community@kde.org.





## Currently Inactive With Almost No Previous Activity [5 lists]

  * Heaptrack: https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/heaptrack


This list sees basically no traffic, but in general is the recommended channel
to talk about heaptrack. Many people instead just contact me directly, which
is unfortunate but c'est la vie.

I would like to keep the list open, it doesn't hurt anyone, does it?


Yes, of course, let's keep it open!


Thanks


Thank you!

Joseph

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Generally available Monday-Thursday from 10-16h CET/CEST. Outside of 
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Re: Inactive mailing lists

2023-05-03 Thread Joseph P. De Veaugh-Geiss

On 5/1/23 16:07, Sune Vuorela wrote:

On 2023-04-30, Joseph P. De Veaugh-Geiss  wrote:
[Low traffic lists with relevant subscribers]

In my opinion moving discussions to more active channels like Matrix or
Discuss may increase visibility of the topics discussed and encourage
participation from the larger community. Such migrations are likely
already happening, organically.


One thing to be very aware of though is that it might separate the
people who has the answers (the current subscribed people) with the
people who has the questions (the people we now redirect elsewhere)

Unless we can get the current subscribed people to also move to the new
platform, this might not be a good idea.


Agree.

If groups want to keep a mailing list open and use another platform at 
the same time, which I think most will do, information can be provided 
to subscribers about what other communication channels exist.


The Visual Design Group's mailing list description provides a good 
template for how to inform subscribers about where to get relevant 
information and interact with the community (although their Matrix 
channel is missing):


  https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/visual-design


Also, being subscribed to a low traffic email list is rarely something
people actually notice, so the people is likely to stay around for a
longer time. The UI of mail clients and subscriptions rarely get in the
way for that.



I agree with this point. I don't know how it is for new subscribers, 
though. It may be suboptimal for a new KDE contributor to go through the 
process of signing up to a list and finding a dormant community.


I wonder if, for at least some groups, it may be better to move from 
mailing lists to a higher-activity platform like Discuss, where there is 
more opportunity for visibilty in the wider community. Specifically, I 
am thinking of the "Local communities" groups, for which there is 
already a high-level category in Discuss.


  https://discuss.kde.org/t/about-the-local-communities-category/688

Just an example, and other groups may also benefit from such a move.


The ui of e.g. Matrix very much gets in the way of staying in 200 low
traffic channels.


This is an excellent point re Matrix and low traffic channels. I fully 
share this opinion.


Cheers,
Joseph


/Sune



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Generally available Monday-Thursday from 10-16h CET/CEST. Outside of 
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Re: Inactive mailing lists

2023-05-03 Thread Helio Chissini de Castro
Hi

I do think that kde-latam is been seeing zero traffic aside some sporadic
spam, and i do not see reason to continue to exists, but Tomaz should have
better opinion.

[]'s

On Wed, May 3, 2023 at 9:32 AM Milian Wolff  wrote:

> On Freitag, 28. April 2023 00:10:25 CEST Nicolas Fella wrote:
> > Am 27.04.23 um 23:42 schrieb Joseph P. De Veaugh-Geiss:
> > > Cross-posting to the relevant mailing lists.
> > >
> > > To discuss, please answer to kde-community@kde.org.
>
> 
>
> > > ## Currently Inactive With Almost No Previous Activity [5 lists]
> > >
> > >  * Heaptrack: https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/heaptrack
>
> This list sees basically no traffic, but in general is the recommended
> channel
> to talk about heaptrack. Many people instead just contact me directly,
> which
> is unfortunate but c'est la vie.
>
> I would like to keep the list open, it doesn't hurt anyone, does it?
>
> Thanks
> --
> Milian Wolff
> m...@milianw.de
> http://milianw.de


Re: Inactive mailing lists

2023-05-03 Thread Milian Wolff
On Freitag, 28. April 2023 00:10:25 CEST Nicolas Fella wrote:
> Am 27.04.23 um 23:42 schrieb Joseph P. De Veaugh-Geiss:
> > Cross-posting to the relevant mailing lists.
> > 
> > To discuss, please answer to kde-community@kde.org.



> > ## Currently Inactive With Almost No Previous Activity [5 lists]
> > 
> >  * Heaptrack: https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/heaptrack

This list sees basically no traffic, but in general is the recommended channel 
to talk about heaptrack. Many people instead just contact me directly, which 
is unfortunate but c'est la vie.

I would like to keep the list open, it doesn't hurt anyone, does it?

Thanks
-- 
Milian Wolff
m...@milianw.de
http://milianw.de

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