On 25 October 2022 11:19:36 BST, Dan Leinir Turthra Jensen
wrote:
> On Tuesday, 25 October 2022 11:11:46 BST Carl Schwan wrote:
> > Le dimanche 23 octobre 2022 à 5:55 PM, Christoph Cullmann (cullmann.io)
> a écrit :
> > > On 2022-10-23 08:32, Ben Cooksley wrote:
> > > > Hi all,
> > > >
> > > > This afternoon I updated invent.kde.org [1] to the latest version of
> > > > Gitlab, 15.5.
> > > > Release notes for this can be found at
> > > > https://about.gitlab.com/releases/2022/10/22/gitlab-15-5-released/
> > > >
> > > > There isn't much notable feature wise in this release, however there
> > > > have been some bug fixes surrounding the "Rebase without Pipeline"
> > > > functionality that was introduced in an earlier update.
> > > >
> > > > As part of securing Invent against recently detected suspicious
> > > > activity I have also enabled Mandatory 2FA, which Gitlab will ask you
> > > > to configure next time you access it. This can be done using either a
> > > > Webauthn token (such as a Yubikey) or TOTP (using the app of choice on
> > > > your phone)
> > > >
> > > > Should you lose access to your 2FA device you can obtain a recovery
> > > > token to log back in via SSH, see
> > > > https://docs.gitlab.com/ee/user/profile/account/two_factor_authenticatio
> > > > n.html#generate-new-recovery-codes-using-ssh for more details on this.
> > > >
> > > > Please let us know if there are any queries on the above.
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > whereas I can see the security benefit, this raises the hurdle for one
> > > time contributors again a lot.
> > >
> > > Before you already had to register to get your merge request,
> > > now you need to setup this too (or at least soon it is mandatory).
> > >
> > > I am not sure this is such a good thing.
> > >
> > > I see a point that one wants to avoid that e.g. somebody steals my
> > > account that has enough rights to delete all branches in the Kate
> > > repository via the web frontend.
> > >
> > > Could the 2FA stuff perhaps be limited to people with developer role or
> > > such?
> >
> > Yes this would be ideal. We don't need to require 2fa for people who just
> > started contributing or want to give some feedback on a MR/ticket.
> >
> > This should be possible with the following features:
> > https://docs.gitlab.com/ee/security/two_factor_authentication.html#enforce-2
> > fa-for-all-users-in-a-group
> >
> > We can just require 2fa for developers because with great powers come great
> > responsibilities.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Carl
>
> i concur - after spending so long trying to attract casual contributors,
> putting up a huge barrier like this is just not helpful. So, 2FA for people
> who area able to actually mess stuff up, absolutely, we have responsibility
> here and that's fine, but for casual contributors, that is precisely the sort
> of thing that just outright makes people go "lol no" and go away again, and
> is
> that really something we can afford?
> I absolutely applaud the attempt at increasing out trustworthiness as a
> community, and 2FA for people who can actually push things certainly helps us
> get to that, but i also can't help but notice that the particular choice of
> making it a blanket community involvement requirement, that is, in this
> particular case, was made with a somewhat narrow focus, so... just thought
> i'd
> lend my voice to the "Yeah, please don't make our hard won casual
> contributors
> go away before they even get here".
>
I agree. Anybody without a real commitment to KDE would be likely to be put off
by this requirement.
I also concur with Frederik, that there are people who have no previous
exposure to this form of 2FA. The only form of 2FA which I have previously
encountered is by text to my mobile phone. I had no idea that apps for this
purpose existed. Because I develop KDE software, I have the motivation to find
out how to set up 2FA for invent. But if I was a casual user, there is no way
that I'd be prepared to spend the time and effort investigating how to do it.
It's far too big a hurdle for somebody such as me who's not already committed
to the project.
--
David Jarvie
KAlarm author, KDE developer
