Re: [kde-community] Open Public Consultation: Revision of the European Interoperability Framework
On mercoledì 11 maggio 2016 11:25:00 CEST Jos van den Oever wrote: > The EU is asking input from its citizens on the next version of the European > Interoperability Framework. > > KDE has a traditional position in Europe and would benefit from a clear > direction towards completely open standards (*not* FRAND which make FOSS > implementations nearly impossible) and strong preference for FOSS. > > I think members of KDE have the right knowledge for filling in this > consultation. Please take some time to do so. > > http://ec.europa.eu/isa/consultations/ > Done. This is very important, thank you for bringing it up. Cheers, -- Teo Mrnjavac http://teom.org | t...@kde.org ___ kde-community mailing list kde-community@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-community
Re: [kde-community] Should we allow non-KDE projects to participate in GSoC under KDE?
On Thursday, February 4, 2016 11:53:48 AM CET Ivan Čukić wrote: > > Just FTR, we don't give away our own slots, but we ask for slots after > > we decide how many projects we are going to select. > > And with that I'm completely fine. I just found myself physically shaking my head at some of the more authoritarian-bent emails in this thread. In KDE we have a GSoC team that's been taking care of GSoC and other student programs for years now, and these people are intimately familiar with GSoC dynamics on slot allocation and are thoroughly aware of the costs and benefits of allowing external projects to take part in GSoC under the KDE umbrella. It would be toxic to try to micromanage the Krita team, the sysadmin team or the WikiToLearn team: KDE has historically worked best when those who do the work decide how it's done. So here's a novel idea: how about we let the GSoC team do what they are good at and come up with their own policies and decisions in GSoC-related matters? At best, any concerns should be brought up with them on the relevant mailing list, rather than appointing ourselves as overseers in this thread. Cheers, -- Teo Mrnjavac http://teom.org | t...@kde.org ___ kde-community mailing list kde-community@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-community
Re: [kde-community] Have repo maintainers opt-in for github mirroring (was: Re: Official KDE mirror on github)
On Saturday, September 19, 2015 13:04:55 David Edmundson wrote: > > > I was under the impression they were disabled by the options we had > > > selected. Unfortunately that is not the case. > > > > Thanks for clarifying on this. > > > > I hope they can still be disabled. > > > > They can't. I had spent some time looking before. Sorry. > > However, we have solid hard data that it's a non-issue. > > Gnome has been mirrored on github for nearly 2 years, in that time GTK has > had a grand total of 4 pull requests over time. > Most others (gedit, cheese, epiphany) have had 0. > > Interestingly they have had literally hundreds of github "forks", which > implies it has led to sustantiable numbers of patches back using the > traditional methods > > I've made a wiki page, which says how to turn a pull request into a > reviewboard submission. > https://techbase.kde.org/Development/GithubMirror > > If we get any questions we can then just copy and paste that, and don't > need to spend any time explaining. Bam, done. > Thank you David, for your get-things-done approach in this controversial and tense situation. It is really much easier to solve than it seems from all these threads. I'm personally in favor of letting projects decide whether to allow GitHub pull requests or not, but regardless of the final decision it is good to already have practical solutions like this techbase entry. I find it unfortunate that some long time KDE contributors feel that KDE goals are threatened by all this. I understand their concerns, but I assign those concerns a different priority score. In fact, the inflexible policy towards 3rd party (including proprietary) infrastructure and processes we have in KDE deters me from bringing some of my own (currently GitHub-hosted) work under the KDE umbrella, as this would hinder some very productive working relationships with our downstreams and potentially result in *less* free open source software being produced, deployed and used. It is also a fact that KDE is an aging community, and in its future I expect a slow decline unless we find a way to bring in a steady influx of new contributors. Recruiting a new generation of hackers is something that's just not happening fast enough at this point (our yearly GSoC stats are an indication of that). GitHub could be a very powerful instrument in turning this trend around by tapping into a huge talent pool and pushing people towards our own infrastructure while still allowing them to get started through an environment they already know. Cheers, -- Teo Mrnjavac http://teom.org | t...@kde.org ___ kde-community mailing list kde-community@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-community
Re: [kde-community] Have repo maintainers opt-in for github mirroring
On Saturday, September 19, 2015 16:25:13 Luigi Toscano wrote: > Teo Mrnjavac ha scritto: > > It is also a fact that KDE is an aging community, and in its future I > > expect a slow decline unless we find a way to bring in a steady influx of > > new contributors. Recruiting a new generation of hackers is something > > that's just not happening fast enough at this point (our yearly GSoC > > stats are an indication of that). GitHub could be a very powerful > > instrument in turning this trend around by tapping into a huge talent > > pool and pushing people towards our own infrastructure while still > > allowing them to get started through an environment they already know. > > I disagree on this point. Other non-aging projects are staying successfully > away from Github. > KDE can indeed be a non-aging project without GitHub, I never meant to imply otherwise. This is not an all or nothing situation. I'm in favor of improving recruiting through other channels as well. But I believe a GitHub mirror with the option of pull requests can contribute to growth, and I'm in favor of using it for this reason. -- Teo Mrnjavac http://teom.org | t...@kde.org ___ kde-community mailing list kde-community@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-community
