Re: [kde-community] A call for finding Free imgur replacement

[Loïc Grobol]

There is a libre replacement hosted by Framasoft : https://lut.im/
The source is available at their GitLab if self-hosting is needed :
https://git.framasoft.org/luc/lutim

On 29 September 2015 at 07:31, Martin Graesslin  wrote:
> On Monday, September 28, 2015 7:52:29 PM CEST Jaroslaw Staniek wrote:
>> Hi,
>> Not everyone uses it but some KDE people do: imgur.com and similar
>> services for online image pastes.
>> Including me.
>>
>> The usage rate is much heavier than hithub but it's not indicated it
>> as a big deal.
>> But it is: bug report, review requests, emails (including mailing
>> lists) and wikis link to these files that disappear after months or
>> weeks.
>> The effect is: losing information, losing the backlog.
>>
>> Equivalent Free services do not exist to my knowledge. I mean
>> equivalent, with public access working with the pastebin plasmoid for
>> example.
>
> What about paste.opensuse.org - that's what I use for screenshot sharing.
>
> Cheers
> Martin
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Re: [kde-community] A call for finding Free imgur replacement

[Jaroslaw Staniek]

On 29 September 2015 at 07:31, Martin Graesslin  wrote:
> On Monday, September 28, 2015 7:52:29 PM CEST Jaroslaw Staniek wrote:
>> Hi,
>> Not everyone uses it but some KDE people do: imgur.com and similar
>> services for online image pastes.
>> Including me.
>>
>> The usage rate is much heavier than hithub but it's not indicated it
>> as a big deal.
>> But it is: bug report, review requests, emails (including mailing
>> lists) and wikis link to these files that disappear after months or
>> weeks.
>> The effect is: losing information, losing the backlog.
>>
>> Equivalent Free services do not exist to my knowledge. I mean
>> equivalent, with public access working with the pastebin plasmoid for
>> example.
>
> What about paste.opensuse.org - that's what I use for screenshot sharing.

Cool, there's code ("stikked"), though the service itself is
independent of KDE so can we have an instance at kde.org?
If it's worth the effort, we would need a means to block non-KDE users.

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Re: [kde-community] A call for finding Free imgur replacement

[Lydia Pintscher]

On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 9:02 AM, Jaroslaw Staniek  wrote:
> Cool, there's code ("stikked"), though the service itself is
> independent of KDE so can we have an instance at kde.org?
> If it's worth the effort, we would need a means to block non-KDE users.

Can we please first think about if this really needs to be done by us?
We need to focus and be smart about using free and open things that
are already out there.


Cheers
Lydia

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Re: [kde-community] A call for finding Free imgur replacement

[Jaroslaw Staniek]

Yes though... there tend to be options "never remove". People are and
will be using these (often closed) tools no matter how cool git, svn,
or wordpress media uploads are (well the latter is really hard to use
for me, dozens of clicks and naming for a simple upload).

On 29 September 2015 at 11:24, Ben Cooksley  wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 10:20 PM, Jaroslaw Staniek  wrote:
>> On 29 September 2015 at 10:30, Lydia Pintscher  wrote:
>>> On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 9:02 AM, Jaroslaw Staniek  wrote:
 Cool, there's code ("stikked"), though the service itself is
 independent of KDE so can we have an instance at kde.org?
 If it's worth the effort, we would need a means to block non-KDE users.
>>>
>>> Can we please first think about if this really needs to be done by us?
>>> We need to focus and be smart about using free and open things that
>>> are already out there.
>>
>> Yes, just so far I've seen no single terms of use that guarantee that
>> the files won't be removed one day, e.g. because the sponsor goes out
>> of business. Even the lut.im or opensuse.
>> I had to once focus on replacing several most important nonworking
>> image links on my blog or design documents, I wouldn't like to repeat that...
>
> Pastebin's aren't intended for those purposes - they're intended to be
> for short, quick use items.
> Even if we were to provide an image pastebin (which we don't need to
> from what I can see) then it would still be for quick use only.
>
> Long term storage should be done via proper uploading to your blog
> host (for blog images).
>
> Regards,
> Ben
>
>>
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>> regards, Jaroslaw Staniek
>>
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>> : A world-wide network of software engineers, artists, writers, translators
>> : and facilitators committed to Free Software development - http://kde.org
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>> : A graphic art and office suite - http://calligra.org
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>> : A visual database apps builder - http://calligra.org/kexi
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Re: [kde-community] A call for finding Free imgur replacement

[Jaroslaw Staniek]

On 29 September 2015 at 10:30, Lydia Pintscher  wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 9:02 AM, Jaroslaw Staniek  wrote:
>> Cool, there's code ("stikked"), though the service itself is
>> independent of KDE so can we have an instance at kde.org?
>> If it's worth the effort, we would need a means to block non-KDE users.
>
> Can we please first think about if this really needs to be done by us?
> We need to focus and be smart about using free and open things that
> are already out there.

Yes, just so far I've seen no single terms of use that guarantee that
the files won't be removed one day, e.g. because the sponsor goes out
of business. Even the lut.im or opensuse.
I had to once focus on replacing several most important nonworking
image links on my blog or design documents, I wouldn't like to repeat that...

-- 
regards, Jaroslaw Staniek

KDE:
: A world-wide network of software engineers, artists, writers, translators
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Calligra Suite:
: A graphic art and office suite - http://calligra.org
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Re: [kde-community] A call for finding Free imgur replacement

[Ben Cooksley]

On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 10:20 PM, Jaroslaw Staniek  wrote:
> On 29 September 2015 at 10:30, Lydia Pintscher  wrote:
>> On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 9:02 AM, Jaroslaw Staniek  wrote:
>>> Cool, there's code ("stikked"), though the service itself is
>>> independent of KDE so can we have an instance at kde.org?
>>> If it's worth the effort, we would need a means to block non-KDE users.
>>
>> Can we please first think about if this really needs to be done by us?
>> We need to focus and be smart about using free and open things that
>> are already out there.
>
> Yes, just so far I've seen no single terms of use that guarantee that
> the files won't be removed one day, e.g. because the sponsor goes out
> of business. Even the lut.im or opensuse.
> I had to once focus on replacing several most important nonworking
> image links on my blog or design documents, I wouldn't like to repeat that...

Pastebin's aren't intended for those purposes - they're intended to be
for short, quick use items.
Even if we were to provide an image pastebin (which we don't need to
from what I can see) then it would still be for quick use only.

Long term storage should be done via proper uploading to your blog
host (for blog images).

Regards,
Ben

>
> --
> regards, Jaroslaw Staniek
>
> KDE:
> : A world-wide network of software engineers, artists, writers, translators
> : and facilitators committed to Free Software development - http://kde.org
> Calligra Suite:
> : A graphic art and office suite - http://calligra.org
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> : A visual database apps builder - http://calligra.org/kexi
> Qt Certified Specialist:
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Re: [kde-community] A call for finding Free imgur replacement

[Martin Graesslin]

On Monday, September 28, 2015 7:52:29 PM CEST Jaroslaw Staniek wrote:
> Hi,
> Not everyone uses it but some KDE people do: imgur.com and similar
> services for online image pastes.
> Including me.
> 
> The usage rate is much heavier than hithub but it's not indicated it
> as a big deal.
> But it is: bug report, review requests, emails (including mailing
> lists) and wikis link to these files that disappear after months or
> weeks.
> The effect is: losing information, losing the backlog.
> 
> Equivalent Free services do not exist to my knowledge. I mean
> equivalent, with public access working with the pastebin plasmoid for
> example.

What about paste.opensuse.org - that's what I use for screenshot sharing.

Cheers
Martin

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[kde-community] A call for finding Free imgur replacement

[Jaroslaw Staniek]

Hi,
Not everyone uses it but some KDE people do: imgur.com and similar
services for online image pastes.
Including me.

The usage rate is much heavier than hithub but it's not indicated it
as a big deal.
But it is: bug report, review requests, emails (including mailing
lists) and wikis link to these files that disappear after months or
weeks.
The effect is: losing information, losing the backlog.

Equivalent Free services do not exist to my knowledge. I mean
equivalent, with public access working with the pastebin plasmoid for
example.
There's some attempt to use a storage within the VDG but from what I
see it's not equivalent of the image pastes. Also phab's Pholio [1] is
not equivalent of the basic pastes, and is login-walled. We cannot
even link to these images from KDE blogs...

Similar issue are images on "kde" blogs that sit outside of
http://blogs.kde.org. I am using the latter but its images storage
support is so 90s that I upload images elsewhere. I imagine may people
use Blogger or Wordpress with proprietary storage just like that of
github or imgur.

Maybe someone has ideas? Is it too resource-hungry to have?

[1] https://phabricator.kde.org/pholio/new/

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