Re: [kde-community] RFC: Announcing new mailing lists
On Mon, Dec 22, 2014 at 3:54 PM, Jeremy Whiting jpwhit...@kde.org wrote: That sounds like it meets everyone's requirements to me. On Mon, Dec 22, 2014 at 8:28 AM, Albert Astals Cid aa...@kde.org wrote: El Dilluns, 22 de desembre de 2014, a les 15:05:52, Ben Cooksley va escriure: On Mon, Dec 22, 2014 at 11:16 AM, Mario Fux kde...@unormal.org wrote: Am Samstag, 20. Dezember 2014, 22.21:01 schrieb Laszlo Papp: Morning [sbip] But you're the only ones knowing that a mailing list has created. And as far as i understand there's a description field asked when requesting a list no? Could automatically send an email here saying List X was created with description Y. +1. If it is not automated, it will likely not be done properly as some people will forget about it. It ought to be easy to implement, too. +1 for automating it. At the moment I don't see a reason why the creation of a new mailing list shouldn't be announced and if it's automatable let's do it. Then we don't forget it. What's the advantage of telling the requester to announce in comparison to do it automatically? We can certainly make it part of sysadmin procedure. I'd still like to see the list requestor be part of the process though. Totally, what do you think about the automated email say something like *** $PersonName created the list $ListName Description: $ListDescription If you want to know more about it please ask $PersonName *** And the email being sent to this list with CC to $PersonName so people can ask him in case she is not in this list? I can volunteer for the implementation if there is no one else and if it is python, but I guess the details could be discussed off-list, couldn't they... Cheers, Albert griits Mario Cheers, Ben ___ kde-community mailing list kde-community@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-community ___ kde-community mailing list kde-community@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-community ___ kde-community mailing list kde-community@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-community ___ kde-community mailing list kde-community@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-community ___ kde-community mailing list kde-community@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-community
Re: [kde-community] RFC: Announcing new mailing lists
On Wed, Dec 24, 2014 at 9:41 PM, Laszlo Papp lp...@kde.org wrote: On Mon, Dec 22, 2014 at 3:54 PM, Jeremy Whiting jpwhit...@kde.org wrote: That sounds like it meets everyone's requirements to me. On Mon, Dec 22, 2014 at 8:28 AM, Albert Astals Cid aa...@kde.org wrote: El Dilluns, 22 de desembre de 2014, a les 15:05:52, Ben Cooksley va escriure: On Mon, Dec 22, 2014 at 11:16 AM, Mario Fux kde...@unormal.org wrote: Am Samstag, 20. Dezember 2014, 22.21:01 schrieb Laszlo Papp: Morning [sbip] But you're the only ones knowing that a mailing list has created. And as far as i understand there's a description field asked when requesting a list no? Could automatically send an email here saying List X was created with description Y. +1. If it is not automated, it will likely not be done properly as some people will forget about it. It ought to be easy to implement, too. +1 for automating it. At the moment I don't see a reason why the creation of a new mailing list shouldn't be announced and if it's automatable let's do it. Then we don't forget it. What's the advantage of telling the requester to announce in comparison to do it automatically? We can certainly make it part of sysadmin procedure. I'd still like to see the list requestor be part of the process though. Totally, what do you think about the automated email say something like *** $PersonName created the list $ListName Description: $ListDescription If you want to know more about it please ask $PersonName *** And the email being sent to this list with CC to $PersonName so people can ask him in case she is not in this list? I can volunteer for the implementation if there is no one else and if it is python, but I guess the details could be discussed off-list, couldn't they... As creating a list is a manual task, i've added inform kde-community@kde.org to the list of steps involved in creating a mailing list. Some of these are necessarily manual anyway - like setting up Markmail archiving. Cheers, Albert griits Mario Cheers, Ben Thanks, Ben ___ kde-community mailing list kde-community@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-community ___ kde-community mailing list kde-community@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-community ___ kde-community mailing list kde-community@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-community ___ kde-community mailing list kde-community@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-community ___ kde-community mailing list kde-community@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-community ___ kde-community mailing list kde-community@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-community
Re: [kde-community] RFC: Announcing new mailing lists
El Dilluns, 22 de desembre de 2014, a les 15:05:52, Ben Cooksley va escriure: On Mon, Dec 22, 2014 at 11:16 AM, Mario Fux kde...@unormal.org wrote: Am Samstag, 20. Dezember 2014, 22.21:01 schrieb Laszlo Papp: Morning [sbip] But you're the only ones knowing that a mailing list has created. And as far as i understand there's a description field asked when requesting a list no? Could automatically send an email here saying List X was created with description Y. +1. If it is not automated, it will likely not be done properly as some people will forget about it. It ought to be easy to implement, too. +1 for automating it. At the moment I don't see a reason why the creation of a new mailing list shouldn't be announced and if it's automatable let's do it. Then we don't forget it. What's the advantage of telling the requester to announce in comparison to do it automatically? We can certainly make it part of sysadmin procedure. I'd still like to see the list requestor be part of the process though. Totally, what do you think about the automated email say something like *** $PersonName created the list $ListName Description: $ListDescription If you want to know more about it please ask $PersonName *** And the email being sent to this list with CC to $PersonName so people can ask him in case she is not in this list? Cheers, Albert griits Mario Cheers, Ben ___ kde-community mailing list kde-community@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-community ___ kde-community mailing list kde-community@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-community ___ kde-community mailing list kde-community@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-community
Re: [kde-community] RFC: Announcing new mailing lists
On Saturday, 2014-12-20, 21:21:01, Laszlo Papp wrote: On Sat, Dec 20, 2014 at 3:54 PM, Albert Astals Cid aa...@kde.org wrote: El Dissabte, 20 de desembre de 2014, a les 22:19:35, Ben Cooksley va escriure: In some instances, the creation of a new mailing list (like a bugs-dist list) would be noise. I'd be in favour of the requestor(s) announcing the new list though - so they could explain what the list would be used for. If sysadmin ends up doing it we'll likely be unable to provide as decent an explanation (as we're simply not as involved). But you're the only ones knowing that a mailing list has created. And as far as i understand there's a description field asked when requesting a list no? Could automatically send an email here saying List X was created with description Y. +1. If it is not automated, it will likely not be done properly as some people will forget about it. It ought to be easy to implement, too. The person requesting the list will get a notification mail when the list has been set up. So we just need to make sure that this mail contains text that says something like Consider announcing the availability of your new list to the wider KDE community by posting an introduction to kde-community@kde.org Cheers, Kevin -- Kevin Krammer, KDE developer, xdg-utils developer KDE user support, developer mentoring signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ kde-community mailing list kde-community@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-community
Re: [kde-community] RFC: Announcing new mailing lists
On Sun, Dec 21, 2014 at 11:34 AM, Kevin Krammer kram...@kde.org wrote: On Saturday, 2014-12-20, 21:21:01, Laszlo Papp wrote: On Sat, Dec 20, 2014 at 3:54 PM, Albert Astals Cid aa...@kde.org wrote: El Dissabte, 20 de desembre de 2014, a les 22:19:35, Ben Cooksley va escriure: In some instances, the creation of a new mailing list (like a bugs-dist list) would be noise. I'd be in favour of the requestor(s) announcing the new list though - so they could explain what the list would be used for. If sysadmin ends up doing it we'll likely be unable to provide as decent an explanation (as we're simply not as involved). But you're the only ones knowing that a mailing list has created. And as far as i understand there's a description field asked when requesting a list no? Could automatically send an email here saying List X was created with description Y. +1. If it is not automated, it will likely not be done properly as some people will forget about it. It ought to be easy to implement, too. The person requesting the list will get a notification mail when the list has been set up. So we just need to make sure that this mail contains text that says something like Consider announcing the availability of your new list to the wider KDE community by posting an introduction to kde-community@kde.org Just to clarify: that is the case that I was trying to write about, in my previous email. There is the possiblity in there to be missed. If it is automated and it is generated automatically in the same step, there cannot be such a miss occurring. Even if it is not missed, it is still manual work to be done rather than done automatically. Having said that, as long as I am not involved (which is likely the case as it currently seems), either works for me. ___ kde-community mailing list kde-community@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-community
Re: [kde-community] RFC: Announcing new mailing lists
El Diumenge, 21 de desembre de 2014, a les 10:11:24, Ben Cooksley va escriure: On Sun, Dec 21, 2014 at 4:54 AM, Albert Astals Cid aa...@kde.org wrote: El Dissabte, 20 de desembre de 2014, a les 22:19:35, Ben Cooksley va escriure: On Sat, Dec 20, 2014 at 8:54 PM, Valorie Zimmerman valorie.zimmer...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Dec 19, 2014 at 3:19 PM, Albert Astals Cid aa...@kde.org wrote: Hi guys, sometimes i realize some interesting discussions are being carried on mailing lists i didn't ever know they existed. Do you think it'd be a good idea to ask sysadmins to send an email to this list every time a new public mailing list is created? Cheers, Albert It would be nice if *somebody* announced them - could be sysadmin, could be the new team, or the incubation team. In some instances, the creation of a new mailing list (like a bugs-dist list) would be noise. I'd be in favour of the requestor(s) announcing the new list though - so they could explain what the list would be used for. If sysadmin ends up doing it we'll likely be unable to provide as decent an explanation (as we're simply not as involved). But you're the only ones knowing that a mailing list has created. And as far as i understand there's a description field asked when requesting a list no? Could automatically send an email here saying List X was created with description Y. We're the only ones who know about every list that is created yes. However those requesting the new list will certainly be aware of it have being created. While we do request a description, sometimes people may want to provide additional details on what the list is intended for. They can provide additional information if they want after the automated email. Otherwise i'm pretty sure people are not going to send emails even if we tell them, but oh well, if we can't agree on automated emails i'll accept compromise on Kevin's suggestion. Cheers, Albert Cheers, Albert Thanks, Ben Valorie Cheers, Ben ___ kde-community mailing list kde-community@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-community ___ kde-community mailing list kde-community@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-community ___ kde-community mailing list kde-community@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-community ___ kde-community mailing list kde-community@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-community ___ kde-community mailing list kde-community@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-community
Re: [kde-community] RFC: Announcing new mailing lists
El Dissabte, 20 de desembre de 2014, a les 22:19:35, Ben Cooksley va escriure: On Sat, Dec 20, 2014 at 8:54 PM, Valorie Zimmerman valorie.zimmer...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Dec 19, 2014 at 3:19 PM, Albert Astals Cid aa...@kde.org wrote: Hi guys, sometimes i realize some interesting discussions are being carried on mailing lists i didn't ever know they existed. Do you think it'd be a good idea to ask sysadmins to send an email to this list every time a new public mailing list is created? Cheers, Albert It would be nice if *somebody* announced them - could be sysadmin, could be the new team, or the incubation team. In some instances, the creation of a new mailing list (like a bugs-dist list) would be noise. I'd be in favour of the requestor(s) announcing the new list though - so they could explain what the list would be used for. If sysadmin ends up doing it we'll likely be unable to provide as decent an explanation (as we're simply not as involved). But you're the only ones knowing that a mailing list has created. And as far as i understand there's a description field asked when requesting a list no? Could automatically send an email here saying List X was created with description Y. Cheers, Albert Valorie Cheers, Ben ___ kde-community mailing list kde-community@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-community ___ kde-community mailing list kde-community@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-community ___ kde-community mailing list kde-community@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-community
Re: [kde-community] RFC: Announcing new mailing lists
On Sat, Dec 20, 2014 at 10:11 PM, Ben Cooksley bcooks...@kde.org wrote: On Sun, Dec 21, 2014 at 4:54 AM, Albert Astals Cid aa...@kde.org wrote: El Dissabte, 20 de desembre de 2014, a les 22:19:35, Ben Cooksley va escriure: On Sat, Dec 20, 2014 at 8:54 PM, Valorie Zimmerman valorie.zimmer...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Dec 19, 2014 at 3:19 PM, Albert Astals Cid aa...@kde.org wrote: Hi guys, sometimes i realize some interesting discussions are being carried on mailing lists i didn't ever know they existed. Do you think it'd be a good idea to ask sysadmins to send an email to this list every time a new public mailing list is created? Cheers, Albert It would be nice if *somebody* announced them - could be sysadmin, could be the new team, or the incubation team. In some instances, the creation of a new mailing list (like a bugs-dist list) would be noise. I'd be in favour of the requestor(s) announcing the new list though - so they could explain what the list would be used for. If sysadmin ends up doing it we'll likely be unable to provide as decent an explanation (as we're simply not as involved). But you're the only ones knowing that a mailing list has created. And as far as i understand there's a description field asked when requesting a list no? Could automatically send an email here saying List X was created with description Y. We're the only ones who know about every list that is created yes. However those requesting the new list will certainly be aware of it have being created. While we do request a description, sometimes people may want to provide additional details on what the list is intended for. That makes sense, it can be a simple social policy. Just like moving something to kdereview. ___ kde-community mailing list kde-community@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-community
[kde-community] RFC: Announcing new mailing lists
Hi guys, sometimes i realize some interesting discussions are being carried on mailing lists i didn't ever know they existed. Do you think it'd be a good idea to ask sysadmins to send an email to this list every time a new public mailing list is created? Cheers, Albert ___ kde-community mailing list kde-community@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-community
Re: [kde-community] RFC: Announcing new mailing lists
On Fri, Dec 19, 2014 at 3:19 PM, Albert Astals Cid aa...@kde.org wrote: Hi guys, sometimes i realize some interesting discussions are being carried on mailing lists i didn't ever know they existed. Do you think it'd be a good idea to ask sysadmins to send an email to this list every time a new public mailing list is created? Cheers, Albert It would be nice if *somebody* announced them - could be sysadmin, could be the new team, or the incubation team. Valorie ___ kde-community mailing list kde-community@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-community
