Re: Planet KDE posts not about KDE (was: Re: Please don't make planet.kde.org into a politics feed)
Hello, On Sat, 14 Dec 2019, 8:58 pm Alexander Neundorf, wrote: > On Mittwoch, 11. Dezember 2019 22:23:10 CET Boudewijn Rempt wrote: > ... > > The purpose of the planet is not to give news, is not to soothe troubled > > breasts, is not to provide PR, it's a place where blogs by KDE developers > > are brought together, and yes, that means that you will see other parts > of > > those KDE developer's lifes. This is healthy; too many people believe > that > > working on free, kde, open, source, software is the only thing we do or > > are. Let them learn. > > > > I don't want people to see only the KDE, Krita part of my life, but also > the > > rest of what I am. > > +1 > +1 > > Alex > > > >
Re: Planet KDE posts not about KDE (was: Re: Please don't make planet.kde.org into a politics feed)
On Sat, Dec 14, 2019 at 12:58 PM Alexander Neundorf wrote: > On Mittwoch, 11. Dezember 2019 22:23:10 CET Boudewijn Rempt wrote: > ... > > The purpose of the planet is not to give news, is not to soothe troubled > > breasts, is not to provide PR, it's a place where blogs by KDE developers > > are brought together, and yes, that means that you will see other parts > of > > those KDE developer's lifes. This is healthy; too many people believe > that > > working on free, kde, open, source, software is the only thing we do or > > are. Let them learn. > > > > I don't want people to see only the KDE, Krita part of my life, but also > the > > rest of what I am. > > +1 > > Alex > This is also why I read the planet. Other feeds I read (Linuxchix, Ubuntu) are similar. Valorie
Re: Planet KDE posts not about KDE (was: Re: Please don't make planet.kde.org into a politics feed)
On Mittwoch, 11. Dezember 2019 22:23:10 CET Boudewijn Rempt wrote: ... > The purpose of the planet is not to give news, is not to soothe troubled > breasts, is not to provide PR, it's a place where blogs by KDE developers > are brought together, and yes, that means that you will see other parts of > those KDE developer's lifes. This is healthy; too many people believe that > working on free, kde, open, source, software is the only thing we do or > are. Let them learn. > > I don't want people to see only the KDE, Krita part of my life, but also the > rest of what I am. +1 Alex
Re: Planet KDE posts not about KDE (was: Re: Please don't make planet.kde.org into a politics feed)
On woensdag 11 december 2019 14:58:38 CET Christian Loosli wrote: > Am Mittwoch, 11. Dezember 2019, 03:55:15 CET schrieb Martin Klapetek: > > [...] > > > I'm afraid the problem is already there. The problem starts from the > > > moment a member posts an unrelated post, when someone who is not > > > interested in it starts reading. > > > > But how is that problem of the Planet? > > I guess it is a matter of expectations. From the feedback that I got, a > couple > of people consider the planet to be about KDE and are thus estranged when > controversial subjects such as politics do come up. Yes, there will always be people who find it weird when the world doesn't conform to their expectations. Tough luck, or a learning experience. My own blog was added to planetkde before there were any rules whatsoever, and I warned the people doing that that I would post about whatever occupied my mind, and I even posted religious posts, which actually got decried by the Gnome Games maintainer, back then (https://valdyas.org/fading/software/kio-sword/). Fabricatem diem meum, punc, is my answer. The purpose of the planet is not to give news, is not to soothe troubled breasts, is not to provide PR, it's a place where blogs by KDE developers are brought together, and yes, that means that you will see other parts of those KDE developer's lifes. This is healthy; too many people believe that working on free, kde, open, source, software is the only thing we do or are. Let them learn. I don't want people to see only the KDE, Krita part of my life, but also the rest of what I am. -- https://www.valdyas.org | https://www.krita.org
Re: Planet KDE posts not about KDE (was: Re: Please don't make planet.kde.org into a politics feed)
Am Mittwoch, 11. Dezember 2019, 03:55:15 CET schrieb Martin Klapetek: > [...] > > I'm afraid the problem is already there. The problem starts from the > > moment a member posts an unrelated post, when someone who is not > > interested in it starts reading. > > But how is that problem of the Planet? I guess it is a matter of expectations. From the feedback that I got, a couple of people consider the planet to be about KDE and are thus estranged when controversial subjects such as politics do come up. > If the reader decides to > read something, then the reader can't blame the medium for giving > them the opportunity to read that. It's always up to readers to decide > whether they want to read something or not. The choice is theirs already. Sure, due to how the planet is set-up and depending on the blog post(s) in question, it can be a bit cluttered up / makes it harder to find the content the above named people came to planet for. Hence offering the idea of a filter, which would allow these people to read what they came to the planet for, which is directly KDE related content. Of course one can decide that we do not want to create that opportunity for these people due to technical, effort-versus-gain or many other valid reasons, that will in my opinion just to lead to these people being alienated and not reading the planet. Which is why I think a filter would be nice, but I'm most certainly not going to die on that hill. > Cheers > -- > Martin Klapetek Kind regards, Christian
Re: Planet KDE posts not about KDE (was: Re: Please don't make planet.kde.org into a politics feed)
On Tue, Dec 10, 2019 at 8:01 PM Philippe Cloutier wrote: > Le 2019-12-05 à 10:45, Nate Graham a écrit : > > > > > > On 12/5/19 8:01 AM, Dominik Haumann wrote: > >> On Thu, Dec 5, 2019 at 1:24 PM Eike Hein wrote: > >>> But they don't, so your calculation is about solving a problem that > >>> doesn't currently exist. > >> > >> +1 > >> > > > > +2, let's propose fixing the problem when there actually is a problem, > > not when we suspect that there might at some future point be a problem > > if people don't behave well. > > > I'm afraid the problem is already there. The problem starts from the > moment a member posts an unrelated post, when someone who is not > interested in it starts reading. > But how is that problem of the Planet? If the reader decides to read something, then the reader can't blame the medium for giving them the opportunity to read that. It's always up to readers to decide whether they want to read something or not. The choice is theirs already. That said, I also see no issue with occasional not-entirely-KDE-related posts on the Planet. If I'm not interested in a post, I simply scroll past it. Cheers -- Martin Klapetek
