Re: Shutdown of paste.kde.org
On Tue, Feb 5, 2019 at 10:20 PM Harald Sitter wrote: > > On Tue, Feb 5, 2019 at 9:12 AM Ben Cooksley wrote: > > > > On Tue, Feb 5, 2019 at 1:26 AM David Narvaez > > wrote: > > > > > > On Mon, Feb 4, 2019 at 6:52 AM Harald Sitter wrote: > > > > How does this affect the playground app cutepaste? Or rather: what's > > > > the plan there? > > > > > > There is also kpaste, and none of those have seen commits in 4~5 years > > > so nixing them should not be a problem. > > > > Given that Phabricator has Arcanist for it's pastebin, and there are > > other CLI applications for Gitlab, I don't think we need to take any > > action here with regards to cutepaste or kpaste. > > Sure my point was that we do need to do something organisational > considering the software will break (or is already broken what with > login). Perhaps mark as unmaintained? We probably should mark them as unmaintained yes. > > HS Cheers, Ben
Re: Shutdown of paste.kde.org
On Tue, Feb 5, 2019 at 9:12 AM Ben Cooksley wrote: > > On Tue, Feb 5, 2019 at 1:26 AM David Narvaez > wrote: > > > > On Mon, Feb 4, 2019 at 6:52 AM Harald Sitter wrote: > > > How does this affect the playground app cutepaste? Or rather: what's > > > the plan there? > > > > There is also kpaste, and none of those have seen commits in 4~5 years > > so nixing them should not be a problem. > > Given that Phabricator has Arcanist for it's pastebin, and there are > other CLI applications for Gitlab, I don't think we need to take any > action here with regards to cutepaste or kpaste. Sure my point was that we do need to do something organisational considering the software will break (or is already broken what with login). Perhaps mark as unmaintained? HS
Re: Shutdown of paste.kde.org
On Tue, Feb 5, 2019 at 4:53 AM Thiago Macieira wrote: > > On Saturday, 2 February 2019 11:45:40 PST Ben Cooksley wrote: > > Following the shutdown we will be erasing the database, so any pastes > > not saved elsewhere before this time will be lost. > > > > Should anyone have any questions regarding this, please let us know. > > Hello Ben > > Can you create a redirect to the currently supported/recommended paste/snippet > site from paste.kde.org? I'm not asking for the database of old pastes, jut a > redirect to the main landing page for those who may have muscle memory of > typing "paste.kde.org". Of course, we can certainly do that :) Cheers, Ben > > -- > Thiago Macieira - thiago (AT) macieira.info - thiago (AT) kde.org >Software Architect - Intel Open Source Technology Center > > >
Re: Shutdown of paste.kde.org
On Tue, Feb 5, 2019 at 9:27 AM Christoph Feck wrote: > > On 03.02.2019 18:10, Ben Cooksley wrote: > > Pastebins are generally regarded as transient / temporary, so > > depending on the settings specified by the users the pastes in > > question are likely already gone. > > How long are pastes on phabricator or invent kept? paste has a combobox > to choose, but I did not see it on the other sites. I suspect they're kept indefinitely (as a general rule Phabricator never deletes anything) > > Christoph > Cheers, Ben
Re: Shutdown of paste.kde.org
On Tue, Feb 5, 2019 at 1:26 AM David Narvaez wrote: > > On Mon, Feb 4, 2019 at 6:52 AM Harald Sitter wrote: > > How does this affect the playground app cutepaste? Or rather: what's > > the plan there? > > There is also kpaste, and none of those have seen commits in 4~5 years > so nixing them should not be a problem. Given that Phabricator has Arcanist for it's pastebin, and there are other CLI applications for Gitlab, I don't think we need to take any action here with regards to cutepaste or kpaste. > > David E. Narvaez Cheers, Ben
Re: Shutdown of paste.kde.org
On 03.02.2019 18:10, Ben Cooksley wrote: Pastebins are generally regarded as transient / temporary, so depending on the settings specified by the users the pastes in question are likely already gone. How long are pastes on phabricator or invent kept? paste has a combobox to choose, but I did not see it on the other sites. Christoph
Re: Shutdown of paste.kde.org
On Saturday, 2 February 2019 11:45:40 PST Ben Cooksley wrote: > Following the shutdown we will be erasing the database, so any pastes > not saved elsewhere before this time will be lost. > > Should anyone have any questions regarding this, please let us know. Hello Ben Can you create a redirect to the currently supported/recommended paste/snippet site from paste.kde.org? I'm not asking for the database of old pastes, jut a redirect to the main landing page for those who may have muscle memory of typing "paste.kde.org". -- Thiago Macieira - thiago (AT) macieira.info - thiago (AT) kde.org Software Architect - Intel Open Source Technology Center
Re: Shutdown of paste.kde.org
On Mon, Feb 4, 2019 at 6:52 AM Harald Sitter wrote: > How does this affect the playground app cutepaste? Or rather: what's > the plan there? There is also kpaste, and none of those have seen commits in 4~5 years so nixing them should not be a problem. David E. Narvaez
Re: Shutdown of paste.kde.org
On Sat, Feb 2, 2019 at 8:46 PM Ben Cooksley wrote: > We'll be shutting this service down in approximately one weeks time. > Should anyone be using it to store content for long term purposes we'd > advise you to migrate it to either Phabricator, Gitlab or somewhere > more permanent (like a wiki) before the shutdown. How does this affect the playground app cutepaste? Or rather: what's the plan there? HS
Re: Shutdown of paste.kde.org
On Sat, Feb 2, 2019 at 8:46 PM Ben Cooksley wrote: > Because this makes it functionally equivalent to the pastebin > functionality included in both Phabricator > (phabricator.kde.org/paste/) and Gitlab (invent.kde.org/snippets) > we've decided that it would be best if paste.kde.org were to be > discontinued. Using arcanist we can easily paste from a terminal via `arc paste` (assuming you've set up arc to talk to our phab that is). For gitlab there's a range of snipping cli tools you can find as well. HS
Re: Shutdown of paste.kde.org
On Mon, Feb 4, 2019 at 2:44 AM Eike Hein wrote: > > Maybe we could do a static mirror and keep it up read-only? I would prefer not to, mainly because then it's still something we need to carry around for eternity. Pastebins are generally regarded as transient / temporary, so depending on the settings specified by the users the pastes in question are likely already gone. (For the bugs, I just picked one at random from the list - https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=353983 - and all four pastes referred to there are already dead) > > > Cheers, > Eike Cheers, Ben > > On February 3, 2019 6:29:49 PM GMT+09:00, Kenny Duffus wrote: >> >> On Sunday, 3 February 2019 09:25:32 GMT Kenny Duffus wrote: >>> >>> On Saturday, 2 February 2019 19:45:40 GMT Ben Cooksley wrote: We'll be shutting this service down in approximately one weeks time. Should anyone be using it to store content for long term purposes we'd advise you to migrate it to either Phabricator, Gitlab or somewhere more permanent (like a wiki) before the shutdown. Following the shutdown we will be erasing the database, so any pastes not saved elsewhere before this time will be lost. Should anyone have any questions regarding this, please let us know. >>> >>> >>> There seem to be a bunch of bugs using paste.ko for information >>> >>> https://bugs.kde.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=paste.kde.org_id=15851 >>> 96 >>> >>> (Although a few only mention it rather than appear to have content on >>> it) >> >> >> There also seem to be some git diffs and other things on paste.ko >> mentioned in phab > > > -- > Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
Re: Shutdown of paste.kde.org
Maybe we could do a static mirror and keep it up read-only? Cheers, Eike On February 3, 2019 6:29:49 PM GMT+09:00, Kenny Duffus wrote: >On Sunday, 3 February 2019 09:25:32 GMT Kenny Duffus wrote: >> On Saturday, 2 February 2019 19:45:40 GMT Ben Cooksley wrote: >> > We'll be shutting this service down in approximately one weeks >time. >> > Should anyone be using it to store content for long term purposes >we'd >> > advise you to migrate it to either Phabricator, Gitlab or somewhere >> > more permanent (like a wiki) before the shutdown. >> > >> > Following the shutdown we will be erasing the database, so any >pastes >> > not saved elsewhere before this time will be lost. >> > >> > Should anyone have any questions regarding this, please let us >know. >> >> There seem to be a bunch of bugs using paste.ko for information >> >> >https://bugs.kde.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=paste.kde.org_id=15851 >> 96 >> >> (Although a few only mention it rather than appear to have content on >> it) > >There also seem to be some git diffs and other things on paste.ko >mentioned in phab > >-- > > Kenny > (Male pronouns: he/him) -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
Re: Shutdown of paste.kde.org
On Sunday, 3 February 2019 09:25:32 GMT Kenny Duffus wrote: > On Saturday, 2 February 2019 19:45:40 GMT Ben Cooksley wrote: > > We'll be shutting this service down in approximately one weeks time. > > Should anyone be using it to store content for long term purposes we'd > > advise you to migrate it to either Phabricator, Gitlab or somewhere > > more permanent (like a wiki) before the shutdown. > > > > Following the shutdown we will be erasing the database, so any pastes > > not saved elsewhere before this time will be lost. > > > > Should anyone have any questions regarding this, please let us know. > > There seem to be a bunch of bugs using paste.ko for information > > https://bugs.kde.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=paste.kde.org_id=15851 > 96 > > (Although a few only mention it rather than appear to have content on > it) There also seem to be some git diffs and other things on paste.ko mentioned in phab -- Kenny (Male pronouns: he/him)
Re: Shutdown of paste.kde.org
On Saturday, 2 February 2019 19:45:40 GMT Ben Cooksley wrote: > We'll be shutting this service down in approximately one weeks time. > Should anyone be using it to store content for long term purposes we'd > advise you to migrate it to either Phabricator, Gitlab or somewhere > more permanent (like a wiki) before the shutdown. > > Following the shutdown we will be erasing the database, so any pastes > not saved elsewhere before this time will be lost. > > Should anyone have any questions regarding this, please let us know. > There seem to be a bunch of bugs using paste.ko for information https://bugs.kde.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=paste.kde.org_id=1585196 (Although a few only mention it rather than appear to have content on it) -- Kenny (Male pronouns: he/him)
Re: Shutdown of paste.kde.org
On Sun, Feb 3, 2019 at 12:52 PM Valorie Zimmerman wrote: > > Hi Ben Hi Valorie, > > On Sat, Feb 2, 2019 at 11:46 AM Ben Cooksley wrote: >> >> Hi all, >> >> For some time now Sysadmin has been aware that the application we use >> to run paste.kde.org is unmaintained, and therefore represents a >> security risk. Additionally, for a long time now we've been forced to >> require people to login in order to create pastes there, due to the >> severity of the abuse we've experienced. >> >> Because this makes it functionally equivalent to the pastebin >> functionality included in both Phabricator >> (phabricator.kde.org/paste/) and Gitlab (invent.kde.org/snippets) >> we've decided that it would be best if paste.kde.org were to be >> discontinued. >> >> We'll be shutting this service down in approximately one weeks time. >> Should anyone be using it to store content for long term purposes we'd >> advise you to migrate it to either Phabricator, Gitlab or somewhere >> more permanent (like a wiki) before the shutdown. >> >> Following the shutdown we will be erasing the database, so any pastes >> not saved elsewhere before this time will be lost. >> >> Should anyone have any questions regarding this, please let us know. >> >> Regards, >> Ben Cooksley >> KDE Sysadmin > > > Besides having access to maintained code, are the new services also requiring > logins? Seems like this would cut down immensely on the spam, malware, > pirated stuff, illegal porn, etc. that pastebins seem to host. Yes, both Phabricator and Gitlab will require login to create pastes/snippets. Cheers, Ben > > Valorie > -- > http://about.me/valoriez > >
Re: Shutdown of paste.kde.org
Hi Ben On Sat, Feb 2, 2019 at 11:46 AM Ben Cooksley wrote: > Hi all, > > For some time now Sysadmin has been aware that the application we use > to run paste.kde.org is unmaintained, and therefore represents a > security risk. Additionally, for a long time now we've been forced to > require people to login in order to create pastes there, due to the > severity of the abuse we've experienced. > > Because this makes it functionally equivalent to the pastebin > functionality included in both Phabricator > (phabricator.kde.org/paste/) and Gitlab (invent.kde.org/snippets) > we've decided that it would be best if paste.kde.org were to be > discontinued. > > We'll be shutting this service down in approximately one weeks time. > Should anyone be using it to store content for long term purposes we'd > advise you to migrate it to either Phabricator, Gitlab or somewhere > more permanent (like a wiki) before the shutdown. > > Following the shutdown we will be erasing the database, so any pastes > not saved elsewhere before this time will be lost. > > Should anyone have any questions regarding this, please let us know. > > Regards, > Ben Cooksley > KDE Sysadmin > Besides having access to maintained code, are the new services also requiring logins? Seems like this would cut down immensely on the spam, malware, pirated stuff, illegal porn, etc. that pastebins seem to host. Valorie -- http://about.me/valoriez
