Re: kaudiocreator to unmaintained

2019-06-20 Thread Jonathan Riddell
On Thu, Jun 20, 2019 at 08:25:22AM +0200, Kevin Ottens wrote:
> Since I'd rather we have one project with a team size > 1 that two with a 
> team 
> size of 1, I'll retract my previous offer of reviving kaudiocreator and turn 
> my attention to audex instead. Hopefully we can get it out of playground and 
> into KDE Applications.

I've moved kaudiocreator to unmainatained.

Translators please do the necessary with translations.

Jonathan


Re: What means having an application in "KDE Applications"

2019-06-20 Thread Luigi Toscano
Nate Graham ha scritto:
> On 6/19/19 3:57 PM, Luigi Toscano wrote:
>> My point is that that if the main driver for the inclusion is raising the
>> awareness about a certain project and attracting new developers, given that 
>> no
>> data support this correlation, then maybe the inclusion itself should be
>> questioned.
> 
> While I agree that inclusion doesn't guarantee higher awareness, the inverse
> seems more likely to me, for maintainerless apps at least: with no maintainer
> to request and coordinate releases, apps not in KDE Applications don't get
> released, so their awareness gradually drops to zero over time. Inclusion in
> the KDE Applications bundle may not be a panacea, but how else are
> maintainerless/community-maintained apps supposed to get released?

That's a good question. In the past few applications have found a new
maintainer "out of the blue" and got a release. Some of them opted for joining
KDE Applications (but only after getting a maintainer, not before), other did 
not.

>From a community point of view, an interesting effort - which would require a
new team and, more important, new coordinator, has been the KDE Gardening 
Project:
https://community.kde.org/Gardening
(k3b was not part of KDE Applications at that time but regardless of that it
had a bunch of bugs that required some fixes).

On the other hand I'd like to mention that the last two applications that have
been proposed (not by their maintainer) to join KDE Applications do have
maintainers (keurocalc and yakuake).

-- 
Luigi


Re: kaudiocreator to unmaintained

2019-06-20 Thread Kevin Ottens
Hello,

On Friday, 24 May 2019 17:10:20 CEST Bernd Steinhauser wrote:
> Did you guys have a look at audex?

I didn't know about this one indeed.

> Last time I looked at both audex and kaudiocreator, I found the former to be
> in a much better state. That's also why I put in some effort to port it to
> kf5 (at the time neither of the two was ported).
> 
> Right now the main issue with audex is that the cover fetching doesn't work
> (since Google removed a related API), but apart from that it works very
> well.
> 
> Of course, if you – for whatever reason – prefer kaudiocreator, feel free to
> continue with that one.
> Just wanted to point out that audex exists as well. ;)

Thanks for bringing it up. I had a bit of time to look into it, and it looks 
like audex is in a better state and it has seen some activity from Heiko in 
the last few months which kind of de facto makes him maintainer. ;-)

Since I'd rather we have one project with a team size > 1 that two with a team 
size of 1, I'll retract my previous offer of reviving kaudiocreator and turn 
my attention to audex instead. Hopefully we can get it out of playground and 
into KDE Applications.

Regards.
-- 
Kevin Ottens, http://ervin.ipsquad.net


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