Re: KJournald in KDE-Review

2022-11-04 Thread Andreas Cord-Landwehr
Hi Kai, many thanks for this very detailed review! For the nitpicks, I did a 
first cleanup. Some of the not low hanging fruits regarding UI and features I 
added to the backlog items in the Invent project. More details below.

Cheers,
Andreas

On Donnerstag, 3. November 2022 14:58:06 CET Kai Uwe Broulik wrote:
> * bootmodel.cpp: I don't think you need to call beginResetModel() when
> you populate it in the constructor
done
> * bootmodel.cpp: QAbstractListModel is a flat list with a single column,
> no need to re-implement parent(), columnCount(), etc
done
> * bootmodel.cpp: Admittedly it's prettier to have an Q_INVOKABLE for
> bootId but if you made the roles Q_ENUM, you could call data() from QML
> wiht e.g. bootModel.data(bootModel.index(row, 0), BootModel.FooRole)
thanks, was actually an obsolete method, but Q_ENUM for roles is obviously a 
good thing
> * colorizer.cpp: Multi-look-up: !contains() + operator[] + value(),
> probably use find() and friends
done
> * fieldfilterproxymodel.cpp: Could use the enum values/ints instead of
> custom mapping through QString (c.f. Q_ENUM suggestion above)
I am ambivalent about this. Yes, it makes sense to provide an enum-based 
filtering but then from the API POV I am restricting the API to fields that I 
know, yet journald allows to use individual fields names without them being 
defined in any specification. For now, I will keep to strings and probably add 
a 
convenience API for very well known fields.
> * fieldfilterproxymodel.h: you can probably READ rowCount for
> Q_PROPERTY(int count) since it has a default-argument, instead of adding
> a count() that just calls rowCount()
thanks, done
> * fieldfilterproxymodel.h: get() seems unused?
yes, it currently is, will keep it in mind before making the API public to 
maybe remove it
> * fieldfilterproxymodel.cpp: It feels like your filterAcceptsRow() impl
> is superfluous and you could be using setFilterFixedString?
nice cleanup, thanks
> * filtercriteriamodel.cpp: You should emit dataChanged() in setData()
> when data has changed.
It already is in FilterCriteriaModel::setData(...), you were probably looking 
at SelectionEntry::setData(...) which is an internal data class but not 
exposed
> * journaldhelper.cpp: instead of going QString -> std::string -> c_str,
> you could be doing qUtf8Printable()
Nice! That method was new to me.
> * journaldhelper.cpp: mapField could be using QMetaEnum to turn an enum
> into a string
Good idea! done
> * journalduniquequerymodel.cpp: openJournalFromPath() could be reusing
> the QFileInfo instance for isDir() and isFile() check
done
> * journalduniquequerymodel.cpp: openJournalFromPath() returns true, even
> if opening fails
Ouch, thanks!
> * journalduniquequerymodel.cpp: it wasn't entirely clear to me what the
> std::pair<.., bool> is for
You find a quite unclean code fragment that needs refactoring ;) Will put it on 
my list. Essentially, the boolean is reused for a selected property, which is 
quite wrong to put here...
> * journalduniquequerymodel.cpp: you probably shouldn't return true if
> setData() didn't change anything?
Done
> * journalduniquequerymodel.cpp: selectedEntries() appears unused
Nice, already one user of the above hack, that I could remove :)
> 
> I suggest you run QAbstractItemModelTester against your models to verify
> they fully behave as Qt expects.
Actually, that is already in place in all autotests, just double-checked...

> Some comments on the UI:
> * Would be nice to have a filter bar in the "Unit" and "Process" list I
> have a thousand units there, it's hard to find them.
added to this issue https://invent.kde.org/system/kjournald/-/issues/22
> * There should be tooltips on elided items, e.g. when the Unit name gets
> elided
in the left side filter area, there are tooltips, do you mean others?
> * the ItemDelegate in the bootIdComboBox should have width: parent.width
done
> * The scrolling behavior for the journal content is awful, you probably
> want to wrap your ListView in a ScrollView for proper desktop-y mouse
> wheel scrolling
the scrolling itself is not the problem here, but rather the caching logic, 
which is needed to interact with very big logs (I have 1-2 GB logs for single 
boots e.g. that I have to scroll efficiently) but there are improvements 
possible...
added to this issue https://invent.kde.org/system/kjournald/-/issues/6
> * There isn't really any keyboard navigation, e.g. I should be able to
> focus the LogView and use arrow keys to go up and down an item
try the page up/down keys ;) but yes, this needs to be worked on,
added to this issue https://invent.kde.org/system/kjournald/-/issues/6
> * A filter feature rather than highlight would be lovely, e.g. "kde" and
> find all items matching kde
added to this issue https://invent.kde.org/system/kjournald/-/issues/23
> * It's not really obvious that selecting copies to clipboard, the
> selection should stay, and maybe there should be a context menu
added to this issue 

Re: KJournald in KDE-Review

2022-10-30 Thread Andreas Cord-Landwehr
On Sonntag, 23. Oktober 2022 10:34:36 CET Andreas Cord-Landwehr wrote:
> Hi, just a short update: Thank you for the comments! Nearly all of them are
> already fixed. For a very few I created invent.k.o issues instead, because
> they are mostly a maintainability concern and make sense to fix together
> with planned features (e.g. removal of fixed colors when refactoring
> integration with desktop color scheme).
> If you have more comments please raise them. In case nobody finds a blocker,
> I will ask sysadmins at the end of the week to move kjournald to the
> "system" module.

Hi, kjournald now transitioned into the system module.

Thanks to all!
Andreas




Re: KJournald in KDE-Review

2022-10-23 Thread Andreas Cord-Landwehr
Hi, just a short update: Thank you for the comments! Nearly all of them are 
already fixed. For a very few I created invent.k.o issues instead, because they 
are mostly a maintainability concern and make sense to fix together with 
planned features (e.g. removal of fixed colors when refactoring integration 
with desktop color scheme).
If you have more comments please raise them. In case nobody finds a blocker, I 
will ask sysadmins at the end of the week to move kjournald to the "system" 
module.

Cheers,
Andreas




Re: KJournald in KDE-Review

2022-10-12 Thread Andreas Cord-Landwehr
On Mittwoch, 12. Oktober 2022 03:56:03 CEST Aleix Pol wrote:
[...]
> Then I'd recommend to only make it public API when the time comes. :)
> 
> +1 to making it optional instead, if it makes your life any better.
> That said, when we've needed this kind of flexibility in the past, we
> have often ended up splitting the repository into a separate one, not
> sure it would make sense here.
> 
> Also it would be useful to know what your plans are. :D

Hi, just added such an option.

My goal is to eventually split the library part out from the application as 
soon as it makes sense. At the moment there are still sometimes changes to the 
library API/moving parts that are not fully polished yet.
The full story is that I started with the library, then noticed that  my 
reference app to show how the API can be used has a lot of value as its own. 
So the focus right now is to make something for end users and later on to look 
at finalizing the library abstraction.

Cheers,
Andreas




Re: KJournald in KDE-Review

2022-10-11 Thread Andreas Cord-Landwehr
On Montag, 10. Oktober 2022 15:34:30 CEST Aleix Pol wrote:
> On Sun, Oct 9, 2022 at 7:18 PM Andreas Cord-Landwehr
 [...]
> > Even though KJournald is currently contained in the "libraries" playground
> > module, I would like to get it included in the "utilities" module after
> > passing KDE Review. The reason is that at the moment I more focus on the
> > application part and that is the most user-facing part. Having it in
> > "utilities" thus will avoid confusion.
> > 
> > Looking forward for your review comments!
> 
> I'm a bit confused by the context.
> 
> It's placed in libraries although it seems like system would be the
> place for it.
> https://invent.kde.org/system
> 
> I see there's a library, are you planning on maintaining compatibility
> there? Are there other users? If there's no users outside, it could
> make sense to skip installing headers until there is a use-case,
> otherwise you might see yourself tied to an ABI unnecessarily.

Yes, the https://invent.kde.org/system module sounds actually to be the best 
place for the app; I wrote "utilities" in the original mail, but agree that 
system is even better.

I myself have use cases to use the library part as a library. Yet that is not 
for a public project. I could introduce a build option to only install headers 
optionally (default being OFF), which might makes it more clear to packagers 
that currently they do not have to package the headers. Moreover, at the 
moment their is not yet a fully stable API for the library, which is probably 
another good reason to not install headers by default.

In the mid-term/long-run, I am planning to provide a stable API for the 
library.

Cheers,
Andreas




KJournald in KDE-Review

2022-10-09 Thread Andreas Cord-Landwehr
Hi, after a few releases over the past year, I would like to get KJournald 
included in KDE application releases. This project is about providing both an 
QItemModel abstraction library for the C-style journald API and providing an 
efficient graphical browser for journald logs.

Sysadmins moved the repository to KDE Review today, you can find the source 
code here:

https://invent.kde.org/libraries/kjournald

(flatpack packaging is also available for easy trying it out)

Even though KJournald is currently contained in the "libraries" playground 
module, I would like to get it included in the "utilities" module after 
passing KDE Review. The reason is that at the moment I more focus on the 
application part and that is the most user-facing part. Having it in 
"utilities" thus will avoid confusion.

Looking forward for your review comments!

Best regards,
Andreas




Re: KDE Frameworks 6 - Virtual Sprint setup

2021-02-02 Thread Andreas Cord-Landwehr
On Sonntag, 31. Januar 2021 16:04:32 CET Christoph Cullmann wrote:
> On 2021-01-30 12:14, Volker Krause wrote:
> > On Freitag, 29. Januar 2021 15:57:59 CET Adam Szopa wrote:
> >> Hello,
> >> I've been talking with David Faure about setting up a Sprint focused
> >> on KF6
> >> work. Some of the topics would include:
> >> - Reviewing the KF6 board
> >> (https://phabricator.kde.org/project/board/310/[1]): -- Clean up
> >> -- Tagging Junior Jobs
> >> - Working out a structure/process for handling:
> >> -- "Stuck" tasks
> >> -- Unit test regressions
> >> - Decide the 5.15 minimum requirement bump timeline
> >> - Decide on a 6 branching strategy and timeline
> >> - Decide if/how ECM should support multiple Qt versions
> >> 
> >> That's just an example list - the wiki[1] should include the up to
> >> date and
> >> detailed topics.
> >> 
> >> The Sprint will use the KDE BBB instance - same tech that powered last
> >> years
> >> 
> >>  Akademy; I'll coordinate that with our sysadmins to have it
> >> 
> >> available.
> >> 
> >> As for the date and length, usually Virtual Sprints are a weekend
> >> thing. I'd
> >> love to hear from you if that sounds OK, and which weekend would be
> >> workable for you (how soon can we get this started) and your preferred
> >> availability hours. I'll set up a poll later to pinpoint the final
> >> timing.
> > 
> > Thanks for driving this, I'm in! European hours preferred, any weekend
> > starting from w6 should be possible.
> 
> Count me in, too ;=)
> European hours preferred.

Same for me!

Cheers,
Andreas





Re: CI testing with local files

2021-01-28 Thread Andreas Cord-Landwehr
On Donnerstag, 28. Januar 2021 10:20:54 CET Konstantin Kharlamov wrote:
> On Wed, 2021-01-27 at 17:36 -0500, Michael Reeves wrote:
> > Is there way to reading and writing small files in the CI? I'm in the
> > process of writing auto tests for kdiff3.
> 
> Your tests could create a directory inside the current one, and then inside
> the new directory do stuff like creating files, etc. So, unless I
> misunderstand your question, there's that.

Hi, best practise is to put those files into a QTemporaryDir or create them as 
QTemporaryFile to avoid contamination from a previous test run. Also you 
should not change input data during a test that will be needed unchanged for 
another test run but prefer copying it to a temporary location.

Best regards,
Andreas




Re: Review Request 128749: Backport karchive fix for out of directory files

2016-08-25 Thread Andreas Cord-Landwehr

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Ship it!




Yeah, thanks applying it!
LGTM, only point is that I cannot see the test-tar archive in the diff, but I 
presume that reviewboard cannot display binary files

- Andreas Cord-Landwehr


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> 
> Review request for kdelibs, Andreas Cord-Landwehr and David Faure.
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> Repository: kdelibs
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>   kdecore/io/karchive.cpp eb0bf2e 
>   kdecore/tests/karchivetest.h e64e0ed 
>   kdecore/tests/karchivetest.cpp 7786b98 
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> Diff: https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/128749/diff/
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Re: Minuet (music education software) moved to kdereview

2016-01-30 Thread Andreas Cord-Landwehr
On Friday, January 29, 2016 6:53:23 PM CET Sandro Andrade wrote:
> Question: Minuet uses TiMidity++ and freepats as run-time
> dependencies. Should I improve CMakeLists.txt to detect such
> installations (they aren't libraries, maybe some ugly check is
> required) as a way to hint packagers to add those as Minuet's
> dependencies?

Hi, if they are really only runtime dependencies, a README.packagers that 
clearly states such dependencies is the better way to go.
The rationale behind this is that for packages the build-process is usually 
decoupled from running applications (at least for binary distributions). The 
building is done on different systems than those the compiled software will be 
executed. So, a CMake check would be misleading, since such dependencies are 
not needed for building. Moreover they have to be specifically setup as 
runtime-dependencies to be automatically installed for the users.

Cheers,
Andreas


Re: Re: Minuet (music education software) moved to kdereview

2016-01-26 Thread Andreas Cord-Landwehr
On Monday 25 January 2016 21:48:27 Albert Astals Cid wrote:
> El Sunday 24 January 2016, a les 16:50:18, Andreas Cord-Landwehr va 
escriure:
> > * it looks strange to me that in minuet/cmake/ there are Config-files for
> > the 3rd-party library drumstick. My understanding was that such Config
> > files should only be shipped with the respective library (maybe someone
> > with a deeper CMake-knowledge can comment?)
> 
> If upstream ships a cmake file awesome, but if not then we have to find it 
> having our own cmake file.

Absolutely, but shouldn't that be find-files then instead of config-files?
I always had the perception that those are quite different.

Cheers,
Andreas


Re: Minuet (music education software) moved to kdereview

2016-01-24 Thread Andreas Cord-Landwehr
Hi Sandro, it is always great when such a cool application lands in KDE Edu.
I just made a first and rough (since I do not have all dependencies yet to 
really compile and test it) code review.

Here a some minors I noticed:
* the application does not link against KCrash (which is needed for DrKonqi); 
also in the main.cpp there should be a call to "KCrash::initialize();"
* an appdata file is missing
* in the main CMakeLists.txt, for KF5 there is no minimum version and for ECM 
the minimum version should probably be higher than 1.0.0
* it looks strange to me that in minuet/cmake/ there are Config-files for the 
3rd-party library drumstick. My understanding was that such Config files should 
only be shipped with the respective library (maybe someone with a deeper 
CMake-knowledge can comment?)
* qml-file-localization: It looks strange to me that you are mixing two 
different localization systems with KI18n (in all C++ and UI files) and qsTr in 
all QML files. Since I am not familiar with qsTr, I cannot really comment on 
how it works and if everything is setup correctly; at least Messages.sh do not 
process qml files and hence do not extract strings from them, but that might 
only be necessary for Ki18n?

Other than that, the code quality and licensing information look really good.

Cheers,
Andreas


Re: Minuet (music education software) moved to kdereview

2016-01-24 Thread Andreas Cord-Landwehr
On Sunday, January 24, 2016 6:47:17 PM CET Elvis Angelaccio wrote:
> 2016-01-24 16:50 GMT+01:00 Andreas Cord-Landwehr <cordlandw...@kde.org>:
> > also in the main.cpp there should be a call to "KCrash::initialize();"
> 
> Shouldn't this happen automatically?
> This is what the documentation at [1] seems to imply, at least.

Hi, in non-distro cases  it happens automatically. Yet, many distro packaging 
systems (discussed in this thread [1]) optimize such linking out, if there is 
no explicit call to the library. That's actual the reason why nowadays there 
exists KCrash::initialize().

Cheers,
Andreas

[1] https://mail.kde.org/pipermail/kde-frameworks-devel/2015-September/
027029.html


Re: Re: Re: KDE Applications Versioning

2015-07-21 Thread Andreas Cord-Landwehr
On Tuesday 14 July 2015 07:08:57 Andreas Cord-Landwehr wrote:
 If it is OK this way, I can add it later today to the wiki page.

Hi, since I did not hear any oppositions, I just added the paragraph to the 
wiki page draft.

Cheers,
Andreas


Re: Re: KDE Applications Versioning

2015-07-14 Thread Andreas Cord-Landwehr
On Monday 13 July 2015 23:14:17 Albert Astals Cid wrote:
 I did a few tweaks, i still feel it seems this is the official way other 
 than an optional way of defining the version but maybe that's just me.

Hi, I have the same feeling as Albert that the current text is not clear 
enough that both variants (increase version by hand and using the scripted 
approach) are fine.

What about adding an introduction paragraph like the following:

- snip -
Every application has an application version number that regular has to be 
increased to distinguish different versions of the application (e.g., 
features, bugfixes). When an application does not have its own release 
schedule but is released alongside with KDE Applications, there is also the 
version number of the KDE Applications release. It is the maintainer's duty to 
take care on increasing the version number regularly and there are 
specifically two possible ways:

1. increase the version number by hand for each new release
2. use the same version number as KDE Applications and let the release script 
update the version number

In the following, we explain how to use the scripted version numbers.
- snap -

If it is OK this way, I can add it later today to the wiki page.

Cheers,
Andreas


Re: Scripting/Extensions BoF at Akademy?

2014-08-12 Thread Andreas Cord-Landwehr
Nice idea to do a BoF about this topic!
Since we use a lot of QtScript in Rocs for scripting 
(and I really would like to also offer Python 
support), I am also quite interested.

Do you want to suggest a time slot for the BoF?

cheers,
Andreas


Re: KDE Review - Moving Artikulate to KDE Edu

2014-02-09 Thread Andreas Cord-Landwehr
On Sunday 26 January 2014 16:39:08 Albert Astals Cid wrote:
 El Dimarts, 14 de gener de 2014, a les 19:52:57, Albert Astals Cid va
 So I did have a look at Artikulate yesterday and just found some minor
 nagging user flow issues that I told Andreas and he says he would be
 fixing.
Yeah, all fixed now.
 
 Other than that, looks good to me to move to kdeedu *but* we need to decide
 what to do with kqmlgraphplugin first, since we can't have a kdeedu app
 depending on a playground lib.
Since kqtquickcharts is in KDE Review since the 5th, if no big issues are found 
it 
should migrate at the 19th to KDE Edu. So this problem will be solved 7 days 
before 
the freeze :)

Greetings,
Andreas


Re: Re: kqmlgraphplugin -- a QML plugin to render beautiful and interactive graphs

2014-02-03 Thread Andreas Cord-Landwehr
On Tuesday 28 January 2014 23:26:58 Albert Astals Cid wrote:
  I think the code is pretty stable. It's used inside KTouch without any
  problems since KDE 4.10.
  
  I'm less sure about how the release should be done and there these
  components fits in. Should this plugin be distributed on its own or as 
part
  of something bigger? 
 
 Good, question, at this stage i'd either put it inside the kde-edu virtual 
 module and get it released if with 4.13 and on or put it in extragear-libs 
 and you care of releasing it yourself.

Hi Sebastian,

so do you want to/can you put kqtquickcharts into KDE-Review with the 
goal to have it in Extragear at the time of KDE SC 4.13? Since the time in 
Extragear will be at least two weeks (according to the KDE application 
lifecycle) it would be great to do that soon to have it in place at the time of 
the SC freeze. (hence to allow Artikulate to migrate to SC in time)

Any possible API cleanups (if any are necessary?) then could happen with 
the migration to Qt5/KF5 I think.

Greetings,
Andreas


Re: KDE Review - Moving Artikulate to KDE Edu

2014-01-27 Thread Andreas Cord-Landwehr
On Sunday 26 January 2014 17:24:11 Albert Astals Cid wrote:
   Other than that, looks good to me to move to kdeedu *but* we need
   to decide what to do with kqmlgraphplugin first, since we can't
   have a kdeedu app depending on a playground lib.
  
  Are there technical reasons why we cannot?
 
 You can't compile something against something that is unreleased.
 
Hi, would it be enough to have a release of kqmlgraphplugin even if it is still 
in playground? 
(i.e. released tarballs at download.kde.org)

I am also putting Sebastian into CC, as he maintains kqmlgraphplugin

Greetings,
Andreas

PS: to be precise kqmlgraphlpugin is a runtime-dependency, not a buildtime one


Re: Re: KDE Review - Moving Artikulate to KDE Edu

2014-01-14 Thread Andreas Cord-Landwehr
Hi, 
 I think you should work on getting kqmlgraphplugin released first, depending 
 on something unreleased scares me a bit.
Just talked to Sebastian (maintainer of the plugin) and he will do a technical 
preview release of the plugin soon. BTW this code already exists in KTouch for 
quite some time and now is only split into a self-contained plugin.

 After compiling and installing kqmlgraphplugin and artikulate i got
 
 artikulate(10361) LearnerProfile::Storage::database: Database path:  
 /home/kdeunstable/.kde/share/apps/artikulate/learnerdata.db
 artikulate(10361) 
 LearnerProfile::ProfileManagerPrivate::ProfileManagerPrivate: No last active 
 profile found, falling back to first found profile
 artikulate(10361): There is no subdirectory skeletons in directory  .  
 cannot load skeletons. 
 artikulate(10361): There is no subdirectory courses in directory  .  
 cannot load courses. 
 
 When running it and no window at all.
As discussed on IRC, the program starts now (was access problem to the sound 
card making Phonon to wait infinitely.)
Are the course downloads working now or do you still have a problem with the 
KNS dialog? (if not, we should move that discussion to a bug report probably)

Greetings,
Andreas


KDE Review - Moving Artikulate to KDE Edu

2014-01-13 Thread Andreas Cord-Landwehr
Hey all,

after about one year of development and two technical preview releases, we 
thought that is time to move 
Artikulate to KDE Review, with the goal to land eventually in the KDE 
Educational module. (a heads-up mail 
about this proposal also goes to the KDE-Edu list)

The repository for review is available here:
https://projects.kde.org/projects/kdereview/artikulate

The remaining of this mail is structured in:
1. What is Artikulate and why should it belong to KDE Edu
2. Compile, build and install instructions
3. The bigger picture about Artikulate (condider this part first for skipping, 
   if mail is too long :)

= What is Artikulate =
Artikulate is pronuncation training application that works by repeated 
listening to native speaker recordings, 
recording of the learner's own voice, and comparing both to see if the 
currently learned 
phrase/pronunciation is already mastered or not.

The application itself consists of two parts:
1. the learner part: aimed for the common learner
   explained in the Handbook (docbook format, see /doc folder)
2. the editor part: aimed for contributors who create courses
   currently we only aim to have technical course contributors and hence its
   documentation is available only at 
   http://techbase.kde.org/Projects/Edu/Artikulate


= Compile, build, and install =
We have extended documentation about how to build and install Artikulate, to be 
found in the techbase 
wiki: http://techbase.kde.org/Projects/Edu/Artikulate/BuildAndInstall
At this point, I only want to give two remarks:
* when running, please make sure that the QML_IMPORT_PATH is correctly set (as 
explained at the wiki 
page), since otherwise the application closes with a fatal error
* we require the (yet) unreleased kqmlgraphplugin for plotting statistics 
graphs; this library/qml plugin is 
available in the KDE playground and its QML files also have to be included in 
the QML_IMPORT_PATH (details 
at the wiki page)


= The bigger picture =
Artikulate shall close the gap for pronunciation training applications in KDE 
Edu, since the focus of the 
currently available applications only lies on vocabulary training and 
memorizing (also mixed with 
edutainment applications).
The idea for this application isn't new, as there are a few commercial (but 
AFAIK barely known) Windows 
applications with similar learning concepts. Interestingly, those existing 
commercial applications are very 
hard to purchase.

As nearly every educational application, also for Artikulate it is crucial to 
have a set of high quality learning 
courses. For the beginning, we went the way to focus on /scenario courses/. 
This is, we collected phrases 
typical for scenarios one could face in real life (e.g. ordering food in a 
restaurant, asking for the way,...) By 
this we were able to create a blueprint for further courses that can simply be 
created by translating all 
phrases and recording them by native speakers. At the moment, essentially the 
courses for Bengali and 
Polish are done and there is active work on a course for Greek. The focus of 
our work for this year will 
hence be on recruting further contributors to finish scenario courses for more 
languages (and especially 
core languages like English, French, Spanish). Distribution of these courses 
is done over the 
downloads.kde.org infrastructure using knewstuff. (The next iteration of this 
will probably go the Bodega 
way.

Another focus -- once entered into KDE SC and hence once the application is 
available easier for non-
technical contributors -- a major goal is to start a cooperation with language 
teachers for 1-2 core 
languages.

The current state of the application is, that we think all essential features 
are done by now and we need to 
increase our user/tester base to get more feedback. That's essentially the 
point why we would like to get 
into the SC soon, to iron old the remaining rough edges and check early before 
hard-freeze that everything 
works on a wide range on platforms/distributions.

Greetings,
Andreas