Re: Interesting issue for kde-baseapps, Jenkins kdesrc-build, proposed solution
Hi all, On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 8:16 PM, Christoph Cullmann cullm...@absint.com wrote: Other alternatives include splitting kate up in the various library/runtime- support/application components but that's a lot of extra work for what is really just a kde-projects problem. Just a note that we now have a policy against any future modules being in a similar situation such as this one. Only historical modules will have this issue. Does anyone have objections to the sysadmins realigning the 3 git modules in question? (And if so, I'd appreciate ideas for better ways to fix). Hi, I would have no problem with moving kate.git around, splitting is IMHO a pain for later developing on it, as all parts are tightly coupled anyway. Please note that the actual location of kate.git (on git.kde.org) will not be affected in any way by this. It only affects the module structure. Greetings Christoph Regards, Ben -- - Dr.-Ing. Christoph Cullmann - AbsInt Angewandte Informatik GmbH Email: cullm...@absint.com Science Park 1 Tel: +49-681-38360-22 66123 Saarbrücken Fax: +49-681-38360-20 GERMANYWWW: http://www.AbsInt.com Geschäftsführung: Dr.-Ing. Christian Ferdinand Eingetragen im Handelsregister des Amtsgerichts Saarbrücken, HRB 11234
Re: Interesting issue for kde-baseapps, Jenkins kdesrc-build, proposed solution
On Tuesday, March 12, 2013 20:38:30 Ben Cooksley wrote: Does anyone have objections to the sysadmins realigning the 3 git modules in question? (And if so, I'd appreciate ideas for better ways to fix). Hi, I would have no problem with moving kate.git around, splitting is IMHO a pain for later developing on it, as all parts are tightly coupled anyway. Please note that the actual location of kate.git (on git.kde.org) will not be affected in any way by this. It only affects the module structure. Given the lack of opposition I have submitted a KDE Sysadmin bug [1] to request the move. I will update dependency-data and kdesrc-build after the move is complete. Thanks! [1] https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=316629 Regards, - Michael Pyne
Re: Interesting issue for kde-baseapps, Jenkins kdesrc-build, proposed solution
On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 1:08 PM, Michael Pyne mp...@kde.org wrote: On Tuesday, March 12, 2013 20:38:30 Ben Cooksley wrote: Does anyone have objections to the sysadmins realigning the 3 git modules in question? (And if so, I'd appreciate ideas for better ways to fix). Hi, I would have no problem with moving kate.git around, splitting is IMHO a pain for later developing on it, as all parts are tightly coupled anyway. Please note that the actual location of kate.git (on git.kde.org) will not be affected in any way by this. It only affects the module structure. Given the lack of opposition I have submitted a KDE Sysadmin bug [1] to request the move. I will update dependency-data and kdesrc-build after the move is complete. Thanks! This has now been completed. The dependency data and build.kde.org have both been updated for this change. [1] https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=316629 Regards, - Michael Pyne Regards, Ben
Re: Interesting issue for kde-baseapps, Jenkins kdesrc-build, proposed solution
Other alternatives include splitting kate up in the various library/runtime- support/application components but that's a lot of extra work for what is really just a kde-projects problem. Does anyone have objections to the sysadmins realigning the 3 git modules in question? (And if so, I'd appreciate ideas for better ways to fix). Hi, I would have no problem with moving kate.git around, splitting is IMHO a pain for later developing on it, as all parts are tightly coupled anyway. Greetings Christoph -- - Dr.-Ing. Christoph Cullmann - AbsInt Angewandte Informatik GmbH Email: cullm...@absint.com Science Park 1 Tel: +49-681-38360-22 66123 Saarbrücken Fax: +49-681-38360-20 GERMANYWWW: http://www.AbsInt.com Geschäftsführung: Dr.-Ing. Christian Ferdinand Eingetragen im Handelsregister des Amtsgerichts Saarbrücken, HRB 11234
Interesting issue for kde-baseapps, Jenkins kdesrc-build, proposed solution
Hi all, I would like to propose moving the kde-baseapps, kate, and konsole git modules to an alternative layout within the kde-projects repository, due to circular dependency issues. For some background, the aforementioned modules have the following names and virtual layouts in kde-projects (the database): kde-baseapps = kde/kde-baseapps kate = kde/kde-baseapps/kate konsole = kde/kde-baseapps/konsole Logically speaking, you can see that it might seem that both kate and konsole depend on the kde-baseapps module. As it turns out, the opposite is true, at least for kate: kate provides the text/plain KPart required to exercise the test suite for konqueror in kde- baseapps, so recently Albert Astals Cid made the proper update to the dependency-data information used for Jenkins on build.kde.org, to make kde- baseapps depend on kate. The change is actually correct, but kdesrc-build has an implicit dependency in the opposite direction (kate depending on kde-baseapps) since kdesrc-build uses the same on-disk layout as it presented in the kde-projects database [1] (otherwise there would likely be 100+ directories in the source directory). Without this implicit dependency kdesrc-build would try to run git-clone of kde-baseapps into a non-empty source directory (since it would already contain kate), which git-clone treats as a fatal error. Even without kdesrc-build adding this dependency, it is very strange for a parent module to depend on its child in general. The easiest fix, as proposed by the sysadmins is to move the affected modules to a different virtual layout within kde-projects. Something like: kde-baseapps = kde/$foo/kde-baseapps kate = kde/$foo/kate konsole = kde/$foo/konsole where $foo == applications (as my proposal). This would be a new grouping and make it possible to fix the dependency issue cleanly, since there would only be sibling dependencies (which are far better IMHO than modules that are simultaneously git modules and logical parents of other git modules, like kdelibs is). Other alternatives include splitting kate up in the various library/runtime- support/application components but that's a lot of extra work for what is really just a kde-projects problem. Does anyone have objections to the sysadmins realigning the 3 git modules in question? (And if so, I'd appreciate ideas for better ways to fix). Regards, - Michael Pyne [1] See kdesrc-build commit b48b7ed0db219f1d9e2b9cbb80b1be10fa238410; http://quickgit.kde.org/?p=kdesrc-build.gita=commith=b48b7ed0db219f1d9e2b9cbb80b1be10fa238410 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
