Re: Kandalf: request for review
On Tuesday, December 19, 2023 9:43:06 AM EST J. Varela wrote: > Loren, > > We gave ideas. > > I think it's up to you to pick one. > > > > You could also try a name generator. Chatgpt or something like it. > > > Thanks, > > JV > ICYMI, I have decided to go with Alpaka. Loren signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: Kandalf: request for review
Loren, We gave ideas. I think it's up to you to pick one. You could also try a name generator. Chatgpt or something like it. Thanks, JV
Re: Kandalf: request for review
Yes. It was mentioned this app is intended to manage Llama LLMs. - Llama manager - Herder (or some other language equivalent. Pastor in Spanish. As in herding your many llamas) - Corral (as in a place to keep llamas) Probably just want a name that is simple and easy for people to know what it does. Users working with LLMs probably know what Llama is and that you are not calling them a llama nor a camel. As for the lack of sounding high tech... I mean, Llama doesn't sound high tech at all either. I also don't know if the intended audience of this app would care. I had to look up what Llama was used for. Thanks, JV On Tue, Dec 19, 2023, 6:47 AM Alexander Neundorf wrote: > On Dienstag, 19. Dezember 2023 08:31:56 CET Ingo Klöcker wrote: > > On Montag, 18. Dezember 2023 23:30:57 CET jvap...@gmail.com wrote: > > > On Montag, 18. Dezember 2023 22:27:43 CET Alexander Neundorf wrote: > > > > A Kamel is a big, slow and un-funny animal, in german it's also not a > > > > compliment to call somebody a Kamel. > > > > > > I had no idea. > > > > > > Yes, if it is offensive then, do not use it. > > I wouldn't go so far to say it's offensive. > > > Calling someone by any animal name is mostly offensive. It's a pretty > stupid > > argument to stop calling apps after animals. You should rather stop > calling > > people by animal names. > > did I call anybody a Kamel ? > It's just that it doesn't bring the association of anything cool and > hightech. > > Alex > > > >
Re: Kandalf: request for review
On Friday, December 15, 2023 10:16:41 PM EST Loren Burkholder wrote: > I'm back again with more name ideas. > > 1. Alpaka. (h/t to Kevin Kofler for the suggestion) I've tended to veer away > from names such as this, because there is a derivative of the Llama 2 model > called "Alpaca". However, Alpaca is an open project built by some Stanford > researchers, so I doubt that they would mind a similar name from us. > 2. Orakle. This is pretty neat because it invokes the idea of an "oracle" > that distributes wisdom; even if an LLM doesn't give out oracle-quality > information, it's a fun image to have. The main problem with this name is Big > Red; while Oracle is spelled differently, they do have AI products, so this > could be a bad idea. > > As a runner-up, I have "Newton". While Newton AI is already a company, I did > like this because of William Wordsworth's quote about Isaac Newton: "A mind > forever Voyaging through strange seas of Thought, alone.” This somehow seems > to embody the technology of LLMs to me. > > Please comment if you have any thoughts; if I don't get feedback on this, > Alpaka will probably win by default. > > Thank you and have a great weekend! > > Loren > Hi everyone, At this point I'll plan to move ahead with "Alpaka" since no concerns were shared. Thanks, Loren signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: Kandalf: request for review
On Dienstag, 19. Dezember 2023 13:47:11 CET Alexander Neundorf wrote: > On Dienstag, 19. Dezember 2023 08:31:56 CET Ingo Klöcker wrote: > > Calling someone by any animal name is mostly offensive. It's a pretty > > stupid argument to stop calling apps after animals. You should rather > > stop calling people by animal names. > > did I call anybody a Kamel ? No, sorry. I didn't mean to imply this. I meant all people in general and should have written "We should [...]". Regards, Ingo signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: Kandalf: request for review
On Dienstag, 19. Dezember 2023 08:31:56 CET Ingo Klöcker wrote: > On Montag, 18. Dezember 2023 23:30:57 CET jvap...@gmail.com wrote: > > On Montag, 18. Dezember 2023 22:27:43 CET Alexander Neundorf wrote: > > > A Kamel is a big, slow and un-funny animal, in german it's also not a > > > compliment to call somebody a Kamel. > > > > I had no idea. > > > > Yes, if it is offensive then, do not use it. I wouldn't go so far to say it's offensive. > Calling someone by any animal name is mostly offensive. It's a pretty stupid > argument to stop calling apps after animals. You should rather stop calling > people by animal names. did I call anybody a Kamel ? It's just that it doesn't bring the association of anything cool and hightech. Alex
Re: Kandalf: request for review
On Montag, 18. Dezember 2023 23:30:57 CET jvap...@gmail.com wrote: > On Montag, 18. Dezember 2023 22:27:43 CET Alexander Neundorf wrote: > > A Kamel is a big, slow and un-funny animal, in german it's also not a > > compliment to call somebody a Kamel. > > I had no idea. > > Yes, if it is offensive then, do not use it. Calling someone by any animal name is mostly offensive. It's a pretty stupid argument to stop calling apps after animals. You should rather stop calling people by animal names. Moreover, I think camels are pretty cool. And so does O'Reilly (https://www.oreilly.com/library/view/programming-perl-4th/9781449321451/). Regards, Ingo signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: Kandalf: request for review
I had no idea. Yes, if it is offensive then, do not use it. I meant that the use of K made sense to me. Also, since the LLM was named Llama, and this one Kamel(camel), then seemed somewhat consistent. But not if it is offensive. We do not want to be rude either. thanks, JV On Mon, 2023-12-18 at 22:27 +0100, Alexander Neundorf wrote: > On Montag, 18. Dezember 2023 05:06:08 CET J. Varela wrote: > > I like that. The k makes sense there. It also fits with the theme > > of the > > target uses. > > Really ? > A Kamel is a big, slow and un-funny animal, in german it's also not a > compliment to call somebody a Kamel. > > Alex > > >
Re: Kandalf: request for review
On Montag, 18. Dezember 2023 05:06:08 CET J. Varela wrote: > I like that. The k makes sense there. It also fits with the theme of the > target uses. Really ? A Kamel is a big, slow and un-funny animal, in german it's also not a compliment to call somebody a Kamel. Alex
Re: Kandalf: request for review
I like that. The k makes sense there. It also fits with the theme of the target uses. JV On Sun, Dec 17, 2023, 10:54 AM Martin Koller wrote: > On Freitag, 15. Dezember 2023 00:29:19 CET Justin Zobel wrote: > > I'm a fan of K when it's used well e.g. Kalendar or Kontact but not > KMyApp > > "Kamel" (german for camel) which is a kind of Lama > > -- > Best regards/Schöne Grüße > > Martin > A: Because it breaks the logical sequence of discussion > Q: Why is top posting bad? > > () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail > /\- against proprietary attachments > > Frühstück, Geschenkideen, Accessoires, Kulinarisches: www.lillehus.at > > >
Re: Kandalf: request for review
On Freitag, 15. Dezember 2023 00:29:19 CET Justin Zobel wrote: > I'm a fan of K when it's used well e.g. Kalendar or Kontact but not KMyApp "Kamel" (german for camel) which is a kind of Lama -- Best regards/Schöne Grüße Martin A: Because it breaks the logical sequence of discussion Q: Why is top posting bad? () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\- against proprietary attachments Frühstück, Geschenkideen, Accessoires, Kulinarisches: www.lillehus.at
Re: Kandalf: request for review
While I personally don't mind app name discussions, I also wonder if kde-core-devel is really the right forum for this. I figure you won't get as much discussion in a GitLab ticket, but perhaps the friendly community in KDE Discuss has some good ideas? But since I'm already sending a mail, here's my 2 cents: - My earlier LotR+LLM+K suggestion named Kollum didn't make it. No worries. - So, how about (KDE) Callum instead? It's a real name (human-sounding: check), still has that LLM reference without ripping off other model names (origin story: check), plus you'll forever have Reddit users tell you to rename it to Kallum instead (trolling the komrades: check). - Jakob On Fri, Dec 15, 2023, at 10:16 PM, Loren Burkholder wrote: > I'm back again with more name ideas. > > 1. Alpaka. (h/t to Kevin Kofler for the suggestion) I've tended to veer > away from names such as this, because there is a derivative of the > Llama 2 model called "Alpaca". However, Alpaca is an open project built > by some Stanford researchers, so I doubt that they would mind a similar > name from us. > 2. Orakle. This is pretty neat because it invokes the idea of an > "oracle" that distributes wisdom; even if an LLM doesn't give out > oracle-quality information, it's a fun image to have. The main problem > with this name is Big Red; while Oracle is spelled differently, they do > have AI products, so this could be a bad idea. > > As a runner-up, I have "Newton". While Newton AI is already a company, > I did like this because of William Wordsworth's quote about Isaac > Newton: "A mind forever Voyaging through strange seas of Thought, > alone.” This somehow seems to embody the technology of LLMs to me. > > Please comment if you have any thoughts; if I don't get feedback on > this, Alpaka will probably win by default. > > Thank you and have a great weekend! > > Loren > > Attachments: > * signature.asc
Re: Kandalf: request for review
I'm back again with more name ideas. 1. Alpaka. (h/t to Kevin Kofler for the suggestion) I've tended to veer away from names such as this, because there is a derivative of the Llama 2 model called "Alpaca". However, Alpaca is an open project built by some Stanford researchers, so I doubt that they would mind a similar name from us. 2. Orakle. This is pretty neat because it invokes the idea of an "oracle" that distributes wisdom; even if an LLM doesn't give out oracle-quality information, it's a fun image to have. The main problem with this name is Big Red; while Oracle is spelled differently, they do have AI products, so this could be a bad idea. As a runner-up, I have "Newton". While Newton AI is already a company, I did like this because of William Wordsworth's quote about Isaac Newton: "A mind forever Voyaging through strange seas of Thought, alone.” This somehow seems to embody the technology of LLMs to me. Please comment if you have any thoughts; if I don't get feedback on this, Alpaka will probably win by default. Thank you and have a great weekend! Loren signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: Kandalf: request for review
I'm a fan of K when it's used well e.g. Kalendar or Kontact but not KMyApp On 15/12/23 08:31, J. Varela wrote: Very cool! If there is a good reason for the k, for example the German spelling of the word, then yes. It makes sense to me. Thanks JV On Wed, Dec 13, 2023, 9:26 PM Kevin Kofler wrote: J. Varela wrote: > I think it shouldn't have a name that starts with K, and that it should be > named something related to llama, the large language model. The closest relatives to the llama are the vicuña, the guanaco, and the alpaca. The German spellings Vikunja, Guanako, and Alpaka kontain a 'k', so I think those are kooler. ;-) (Yes, the misspellings of "contain" and "cooler" in the previous sentence were intentional. ;-) ) Kevin Kofler
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Very cool! If there is a good reason for the k, for example the German spelling of the word, then yes. It makes sense to me. Thanks JV On Wed, Dec 13, 2023, 9:26 PM Kevin Kofler wrote: > J. Varela wrote: > > I think it shouldn't have a name that starts with K, and that it should > be > > named something related to llama, the large language model. > > The closest relatives to the llama are the vicuña, the guanaco, and the > alpaca. The German spellings Vikunja, Guanako, and Alpaka kontain a 'k', > so > I think those are kooler. ;-) (Yes, the misspellings of "contain" and > "cooler" in the previous sentence were intentional. ;-) ) > > Kevin Kofler > >
Re: Kandalf: request for review
J. Varela wrote: > I think it shouldn't have a name that starts with K, and that it should be > named something related to llama, the large language model. The closest relatives to the llama are the vicuña, the guanaco, and the alpaca. The German spellings Vikunja, Guanako, and Alpaka kontain a 'k', so I think those are kooler. ;-) (Yes, the misspellings of "contain" and "cooler" in the previous sentence were intentional. ;-) ) Kevin Kofler
Re: Kandalf: request for review
Maybe we can help. Can you give us some information in your own words of what the application does? What is it used for? How is it better/different than what is currently available? Thanks JV On Tue, Dec 12, 2023, 9:40 AM Ömer Fadıl USTA wrote: > just add random words to Nebula > nebulaNest , nebulaBird ,, nebulaWatson , nebulaRover , nebulaScout ... i > am also not good at names :) > > On Tue, Dec 12, 2023, 15:59 Loren Burkholder < > computersemiexp...@outlook.com> wrote: > >> On Tuesday, December 12, 2023 1:59:22 AM EST Ingo Klöcker wrote: >> > On Dienstag, 12. Dezember 2023 06:23:07 CET Ömer Fadıl USTA wrote: >> > > On Tue, Dec 12, 2023, 07:40 Loren Burkholder wrote: >> > > > Hi all, >> > > > >> > > > I've settled on "Kognos" as a good name for this app. (I'm not >> creative >> > > > enough to come up with the name myself; fittingly, this name was >> generated >> > > > by ChatGPT.) Only after I had already changed the sources to say >> "Kognos" >> > > > instead of "Kandalf" did I think to look the name up online; it >> seems that >> > > > there was a company called Kognos, but they were bought out and the >> name >> > > > was retired a year or two ago, so I don't think that we're in >> danger of a >> > > > naming collision. Furthermore, the US Patent and Trademark Office >> doesn't >> > > > have Kognos listed as a registered trademark. With that being said, >> I'm >> > > > all >> > > > for staying within the law, so if you have legitimate reason to >> think that >> > > > Kognos is not acceptable, let me know. >> > > >> > > isnt cognos ( not k but c ) IBM's software ? >> > >> > Indeed. IBM Cognos Analytics ( >> https://www.ibm.com/products/cognos-analytics). >> > >> > Regards, >> > Ingo >> > >> Well, so much for Kognos then. I guess it's back to the drawing board. >> Again, if anybody has a suggestion please let me know; I'm having trouble >> finding names that sound reasonable and aren't already taken for other AI >> products. >> >> Loren >> >
Re: Kandalf: request for review
just add random words to Nebula nebulaNest , nebulaBird ,, nebulaWatson , nebulaRover , nebulaScout ... i am also not good at names :) On Tue, Dec 12, 2023, 15:59 Loren Burkholder wrote: > On Tuesday, December 12, 2023 1:59:22 AM EST Ingo Klöcker wrote: > > On Dienstag, 12. Dezember 2023 06:23:07 CET Ömer Fadıl USTA wrote: > > > On Tue, Dec 12, 2023, 07:40 Loren Burkholder wrote: > > > > Hi all, > > > > > > > > I've settled on "Kognos" as a good name for this app. (I'm not > creative > > > > enough to come up with the name myself; fittingly, this name was > generated > > > > by ChatGPT.) Only after I had already changed the sources to say > "Kognos" > > > > instead of "Kandalf" did I think to look the name up online; it > seems that > > > > there was a company called Kognos, but they were bought out and the > name > > > > was retired a year or two ago, so I don't think that we're in danger > of a > > > > naming collision. Furthermore, the US Patent and Trademark Office > doesn't > > > > have Kognos listed as a registered trademark. With that being said, > I'm > > > > all > > > > for staying within the law, so if you have legitimate reason to > think that > > > > Kognos is not acceptable, let me know. > > > > > > isnt cognos ( not k but c ) IBM's software ? > > > > Indeed. IBM Cognos Analytics ( > https://www.ibm.com/products/cognos-analytics). > > > > Regards, > > Ingo > > > Well, so much for Kognos then. I guess it's back to the drawing board. > Again, if anybody has a suggestion please let me know; I'm having trouble > finding names that sound reasonable and aren't already taken for other AI > products. > > Loren >
Re: Kandalf: request for review
Does it have to start with a K? What does this app do? I would try to name it based on what it does. I see that it is used to interact with a LLM named llama. I think it shouldn't have a name that starts with K, and that it should be named something related to llama, the large language model. - The llamas are heavily used in the Andes mountains. - They can carry(be saddled with) heavy loads(... lots of data?). - They make good guard animals against coyotes and other canine predators. - Related to the camel. - They spit I was thinking of maybe something to do with llama herding. Since the user will be using this to manage their LLMs that are llama based. Also here is another term for llama: "Llama is the Quechua term for L. glama, which is known as qawra by Aymara speakers. " Maybe kognos means llama herding in another language. I couldn't find anything though. A herd of llamas is called a cria herd. Maybe name it Cria. (I don't get the obsession with the k). Anyways those are my thoughts. Good luck! thanks! JV On Tue, Dec 12, 2023, 1:00 AM Ingo Klöcker wrote: > On Dienstag, 12. Dezember 2023 06:23:07 CET Ömer Fadıl USTA wrote: > > On Tue, Dec 12, 2023, 07:40 Loren Burkholder wrote: > > > Hi all, > > > > > > I've settled on "Kognos" as a good name for this app. (I'm not creative > > > enough to come up with the name myself; fittingly, this name was > generated > > > by ChatGPT.) Only after I had already changed the sources to say > "Kognos" > > > instead of "Kandalf" did I think to look the name up online; it seems > that > > > there was a company called Kognos, but they were bought out and the > name > > > was retired a year or two ago, so I don't think that we're in danger > of a > > > naming collision. Furthermore, the US Patent and Trademark Office > doesn't > > > have Kognos listed as a registered trademark. With that being said, I'm > > > all > > > for staying within the law, so if you have legitimate reason to think > that > > > Kognos is not acceptable, let me know. > > > > isnt cognos ( not k but c ) IBM's software ? > > Indeed. IBM Cognos Analytics ( > https://www.ibm.com/products/cognos-analytics). > > Regards, > Ingo >
Re: Kandalf: request for review
On Tuesday, December 12, 2023 1:59:22 AM EST Ingo Klöcker wrote: > On Dienstag, 12. Dezember 2023 06:23:07 CET Ömer Fadıl USTA wrote: > > On Tue, Dec 12, 2023, 07:40 Loren Burkholder wrote: > > > Hi all, > > > > > > I've settled on "Kognos" as a good name for this app. (I'm not creative > > > enough to come up with the name myself; fittingly, this name was generated > > > by ChatGPT.) Only after I had already changed the sources to say "Kognos" > > > instead of "Kandalf" did I think to look the name up online; it seems that > > > there was a company called Kognos, but they were bought out and the name > > > was retired a year or two ago, so I don't think that we're in danger of a > > > naming collision. Furthermore, the US Patent and Trademark Office doesn't > > > have Kognos listed as a registered trademark. With that being said, I'm > > > all > > > for staying within the law, so if you have legitimate reason to think that > > > Kognos is not acceptable, let me know. > > > > isnt cognos ( not k but c ) IBM's software ? > > Indeed. IBM Cognos Analytics (https://www.ibm.com/products/cognos-analytics). > > Regards, > Ingo > Well, so much for Kognos then. I guess it's back to the drawing board. Again, if anybody has a suggestion please let me know; I'm having trouble finding names that sound reasonable and aren't already taken for other AI products. Loren signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: Kandalf: request for review
On Dienstag, 12. Dezember 2023 06:23:07 CET Ömer Fadıl USTA wrote: > On Tue, Dec 12, 2023, 07:40 Loren Burkholder wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > I've settled on "Kognos" as a good name for this app. (I'm not creative > > enough to come up with the name myself; fittingly, this name was generated > > by ChatGPT.) Only after I had already changed the sources to say "Kognos" > > instead of "Kandalf" did I think to look the name up online; it seems that > > there was a company called Kognos, but they were bought out and the name > > was retired a year or two ago, so I don't think that we're in danger of a > > naming collision. Furthermore, the US Patent and Trademark Office doesn't > > have Kognos listed as a registered trademark. With that being said, I'm > > all > > for staying within the law, so if you have legitimate reason to think that > > Kognos is not acceptable, let me know. > > isnt cognos ( not k but c ) IBM's software ? Indeed. IBM Cognos Analytics (https://www.ibm.com/products/cognos-analytics). Regards, Ingo signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: Kandalf: request for review
isnt cognos ( not k but c ) IBM's software ? On Tue, Dec 12, 2023, 07:40 Loren Burkholder wrote: > On Thursday, December 7, 2023 10:28:48 AM EST Loren Burkholder wrote: > > Hi all! > > > > I've been working towards getting Kandalf ready for integration into KDE > (and I'd like to thank everyone who has pitched in to help me, mainly > Laurent and redstrate). At this point, while the app is not necessarily > feature-complete or fully polished, it's getting close to that point. > Therefore, I'd like to officially request a review of Kandalf for inclusion > in the KDE apps. > > > > You can reach me on Matrix at @lorendb:nheko.im for more instant > communications. > > > > Thanks, > > Loren Burkholder > > Hi all, > > I've settled on "Kognos" as a good name for this app. (I'm not creative > enough to come up with the name myself; fittingly, this name was generated > by ChatGPT.) Only after I had already changed the sources to say "Kognos" > instead of "Kandalf" did I think to look the name up online; it seems that > there was a company called Kognos, but they were bought out and the name > was retired a year or two ago, so I don't think that we're in danger of a > naming collision. Furthermore, the US Patent and Trademark Office doesn't > have Kognos listed as a registered trademark. With that being said, I'm all > for staying within the law, so if you have legitimate reason to think that > Kognos is not acceptable, let me know. > > Thanks, > Loren
Re: Kandalf: request for review
On Thursday, December 7, 2023 10:28:48 AM EST Loren Burkholder wrote: > Hi all! > > I've been working towards getting Kandalf ready for integration into KDE (and > I'd like to thank everyone who has pitched in to help me, mainly Laurent and > redstrate). At this point, while the app is not necessarily feature-complete > or fully polished, it's getting close to that point. Therefore, I'd like to > officially request a review of Kandalf for inclusion in the KDE apps. > > You can reach me on Matrix at @lorendb:nheko.im for more instant > communications. > > Thanks, > Loren Burkholder Hi all, I've settled on "Kognos" as a good name for this app. (I'm not creative enough to come up with the name myself; fittingly, this name was generated by ChatGPT.) Only after I had already changed the sources to say "Kognos" instead of "Kandalf" did I think to look the name up online; it seems that there was a company called Kognos, but they were bought out and the name was retired a year or two ago, so I don't think that we're in danger of a naming collision. Furthermore, the US Patent and Trademark Office doesn't have Kognos listed as a registered trademark. With that being said, I'm all for staying within the law, so if you have legitimate reason to think that Kognos is not acceptable, let me know. Thanks, Loren signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: Kandalf: request for review
> To be fair, nowhere in > https://community.kde.org/Policies/Application_Lifecycle#kdereview does > it say who is supposed to check what box, so people checking "obvious" > boxes like "It has a passing CI build" themselves isn't that far off. I think self-checking is fine, as long as another person reviews it in a comment. I had planned to myself, but haven't found the time to. There's other issues in kandalf that needs solving before a proper KDE review can finish, anyway. I also figure it would be really obvious if some checkboxes like "working CI" is checked and then there's a big red X on the homepage. Josh
Re: Kandalf: request for review
On Thursday, December 7, 2023 3:19:03 PM EST you wrote: > This isn't going to be very useful, but I'm sure I'm not the only one > who has heard of the story that the Tolkien Estate wasn't too happy > with our original kandalf. Consequently I'm not sure we should > actually name this thing kandalf. But then I wasn't around back then > so I don't know if there is any truth to it or if it's just an urban > legend. Regardless it's confusing to recycle the name for something > entirely different and I'd reconsider the name here. Food for thought. Thank you for bringing this up. I chose the name Kandalf as more or less a temporary name. My reasoning went something like this: "Most AI chatbots have a human-sounding name; Kandalf is not in use and would make a fine name. I can't think of anything better myself, and I don't want to reuse Konqui, so I'll go with Kandalf." If you have suggestions for names, please leave them below. > On Thu, Dec 7, 2023 at 7:10 PM Loren Burkholder > wrote: > > > > Hi all! > > > > I've been working towards getting Kandalf ready for integration into KDE > > (and I'd like to thank everyone who has pitched in to help me, mainly > > Laurent and redstrate). At this point, while the app is not necessarily > > feature-complete or fully polished, it's getting close to that point. > > Therefore, I'd like to officially request a review of Kandalf for inclusion > > in the KDE apps. > > > > You can reach me on Matrix at @lorendb:nheko.im for more instant > > communications. > > > > Thanks, > > Loren Burkholder > signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: Kandalf: request for review
On 12/8/23 00:49, Albert Astals Cid wrote: El divendres, 8 de desembre de 2023, a les 0:44:11 (CET), Carl Schwan va escriure: On Fri, Dec 8, 2023, at 12:10 AM, Albert Astals Cid wrote: El dijous, 7 de desembre de 2023, a les 16:28:48 (CET), Loren Burkholder va escriure: Hi all! I've been working towards getting Kandalf ready for integration into KDE (and I'd like to thank everyone who has pitched in to help me, mainly Laurent and redstrate). At this point, while the app is not necessarily feature-complete or fully polished, it's getting close to that point. Therefore, I'd like to officially request a review of Kandalf for inclusion in the KDE apps. Where is the thing we're supposed to review? In the wrong place:https://invent.kde.org/lorendb/kandalf/-/issues/1 And again we have people self-checking the checkboxes or their own review :sad_dance: To be fair, nowhere in https://community.kde.org/Policies/Application_Lifecycle#kdereview does it say who is supposed to check what box, so people checking "obvious" boxes like "It has a passing CI build" themselves isn't that far off. I asked Loren to create a sysadmin ticket to get it moved to an offical namespace. That seems premature? What if the review never succeeds?
Re: Kandalf: request for review
On 12/8/23 00:49, Albert Astals Cid wrote: El divendres, 8 de desembre de 2023, a les 0:44:11 (CET), Carl Schwan va escriure: On Fri, Dec 8, 2023, at 12:10 AM, Albert Astals Cid wrote: El dijous, 7 de desembre de 2023, a les 16:28:48 (CET), Loren Burkholder va escriure: Hi all! I've been working towards getting Kandalf ready for integration into KDE (and I'd like to thank everyone who has pitched in to help me, mainly Laurent and redstrate). At this point, while the app is not necessarily feature-complete or fully polished, it's getting close to that point. Therefore, I'd like to officially request a review of Kandalf for inclusion in the KDE apps. Where is the thing we're supposed to review? In the wrong place: https://invent.kde.org/lorendb/kandalf/-/issues/1 And again we have people self-checking the checkboxes or their own review :sad_dance: I asked Loren to create a sysadmin ticket to get it moved to an offical namespace. That seems premature? What if the review never succeeds? You don't need a passing kdereview to be able to get a repository. kdereview typically happens (much) later than that.
Re: Kandalf: request for review
El divendres, 8 de desembre de 2023, a les 0:44:11 (CET), Carl Schwan va escriure: > On Fri, Dec 8, 2023, at 12:10 AM, Albert Astals Cid wrote: > > El dijous, 7 de desembre de 2023, a les 16:28:48 (CET), Loren Burkholder > > va > > > > escriure: > > > Hi all! > > > > > > I've been working towards getting Kandalf ready for integration into KDE > > > (and I'd like to thank everyone who has pitched in to help me, mainly > > > Laurent and redstrate). At this point, while the app is not necessarily > > > feature-complete or fully polished, it's getting close to that point. > > > Therefore, I'd like to officially request a review of Kandalf for > > > inclusion > > > in the KDE apps. > > > > Where is the thing we're supposed to review? > > In the wrong place: https://invent.kde.org/lorendb/kandalf/-/issues/1 And again we have people self-checking the checkboxes or their own review :sad_dance: > I asked Loren to create a sysadmin ticket to get it moved to an offical > namespace. That seems premature? What if the review never succeeds? Cheers, Albert > > Cheers, > Carl
Re: Kandalf: request for review
On Fri, Dec 8, 2023, at 12:10 AM, Albert Astals Cid wrote: > El dijous, 7 de desembre de 2023, a les 16:28:48 (CET), Loren Burkholder va > escriure: > > Hi all! > > > > I've been working towards getting Kandalf ready for integration into KDE > > (and I'd like to thank everyone who has pitched in to help me, mainly > > Laurent and redstrate). At this point, while the app is not necessarily > > feature-complete or fully polished, it's getting close to that point. > > Therefore, I'd like to officially request a review of Kandalf for inclusion > > in the KDE apps. > > Where is the thing we're supposed to review? In the wrong place: https://invent.kde.org/lorendb/kandalf/-/issues/1 I asked Loren to create a sysadmin ticket to get it moved to an offical namespace. Cheers, Carl
Re: Kandalf: request for review
El dijous, 7 de desembre de 2023, a les 16:28:48 (CET), Loren Burkholder va escriure: > Hi all! > > I've been working towards getting Kandalf ready for integration into KDE > (and I'd like to thank everyone who has pitched in to help me, mainly > Laurent and redstrate). At this point, while the app is not necessarily > feature-complete or fully polished, it's getting close to that point. > Therefore, I'd like to officially request a review of Kandalf for inclusion > in the KDE apps. Where is the thing we're supposed to review? Cheers, Albert > > You can reach me on Matrix at @lorendb:nheko.im for more instant > communications. > > Thanks, > Loren Burkholder
Re: Kandalf: request for review
This isn't going to be very useful, but I'm sure I'm not the only one who has heard of the story that the Tolkien Estate wasn't too happy with our original kandalf. Consequently I'm not sure we should actually name this thing kandalf. But then I wasn't around back then so I don't know if there is any truth to it or if it's just an urban legend. Regardless it's confusing to recycle the name for something entirely different and I'd reconsider the name here. Food for thought. On Thu, Dec 7, 2023 at 7:10 PM Loren Burkholder wrote: > > Hi all! > > I've been working towards getting Kandalf ready for integration into KDE (and > I'd like to thank everyone who has pitched in to help me, mainly Laurent and > redstrate). At this point, while the app is not necessarily feature-complete > or fully polished, it's getting close to that point. Therefore, I'd like to > officially request a review of Kandalf for inclusion in the KDE apps. > > You can reach me on Matrix at @lorendb:nheko.im for more instant > communications. > > Thanks, > Loren Burkholder
Kandalf: request for review
Hi all! I've been working towards getting Kandalf ready for integration into KDE (and I'd like to thank everyone who has pitched in to help me, mainly Laurent and redstrate). At this point, while the app is not necessarily feature-complete or fully polished, it's getting close to that point. Therefore, I'd like to officially request a review of Kandalf for inclusion in the KDE apps. You can reach me on Matrix at @lorendb:nheko.im for more instant communications. Thanks, Loren Burkholder signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
