Re: kdereview: bodega
El Dimecres, 24 d'octubre de 2012, a les 22:07:10, Aaron J. Seigo va escriure: hi :) (x-posting between core-devel and -devel as this is (hopefully) of general interest and because we also are supposed to announce new kdereview modules.) So ... what is this Bodega thing I speak of? snip If you are interested, please check out the repositories which are now in kdereview: kde:bodega-client and kde:bodega-server and/or ask questions which I'll do my best to answer Won't have time to give it a use test, but some things grep and friends told me ** bodega-client ** i18n is messed up * the primavera/ folder has i18n but no Messages.sh * the ./activeclient/src/Messages.sh extracts to a catalog named active- addons that doesn't seem to be used * You have a ki18n(), not sure what you expect people to translate there ;-) Both primavera and activeclient have this option options.add(opengl, ki18n(use a QGLWidget for the viewport)); options.add(opengl, ki18n(use a QGLWidget for the viewport)); which to be honest not sure the value they have to the end user There's a few foreach missing const The foreach loop in qScriptValueFromTags is unnecessary slow (doing keys + values) (it's ok if the length of tags is never high) ** bodega-server ** assetimporters/projectgutenberg/src/lcc.cpp has no copyright in the header assetimporters/projectgutenberg/src/lcc.cpp has QObject::tr calls, what's the deal with those, are you expecting a translation? If so you'll need a Message.sh, if not, do we need them? There's a few foreach missing const Cheers, Albert
Re: kdereview: bodega
On Wednesday, October 24, 2012 11:48:08 PM Alex Fiestas wrote: On Wednesday 24 October 2012 23:19:57 Andras Mantia wrote: Hi, Aaron J. Seigo wrote: Bodega I hope you are aware about the meaning of the name in certain countries. :) In Spain it is winery, while in Romania and probably some parts of Hungary it is the name of the cheap drinking places especially in little villages where people go for only one thing: to drink alchool (mostly hard ones). So here it has a negative connotation. Andras I don't see the negative connotation on drinking hard alcohols... But i'm weird :p When you see the type of guys going in such places you will understand. :) Andras
Re: kdereview: bodega
On Wednesday, October 24, 2012 21:10:58 Josef Spillner wrote: It should be easily possible to define asset content models and delivery options to cover this diversity in a multi-market frontend. While for most digital assets the delivery option may be download or subscribe, for services like cloud storage it may be create an account (or replicate at my own infrastructure for the better ones), and for products like used bikes it may be send it over to me. let's divide this into 2 pieces: services and physical goods. services: we already can support those, and will hopefully see our first services appear in Plasma Active 4 with the work being done to bring good ownCloud sync integration to PA. most of the work has been done thanks to Klaas' pretty snazzy mirall, and Sebas has been adding the necessary UI bits. the plan is to offer services via Bodega that install the relevant sync bits that are missing, including account configuration. we're also starting to look into other types of services, such as subscriptions (though they usually result in access to digital assets, we'll ignore that detail for now ;). again, both free-as-in-beer subscriptions as well as for-a-fee. so services: check :) for physical items .. that is indeed something we haven't yet considered. but you're right .. there's no particular reason it couldn't be done. it would mean adding inventory and a shipping infrastructure to the system, two things non-tangible assets don't have to deal with. i think this is out of scope for now, as we have a number of things already on the roadmap to finish out .. but i won't exclude it as an idea for the future. thanks for challenging our vision by pushing it further :) -- Aaron J. Seigo signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: kdereview: bodega
On Onsdag den 24. oktober 2012 23:19:57 Andras Mantia wrote: Hi, Aaron J. Seigo wrote: Bodega I hope you are aware about the meaning of the name in certain countries. :) In Spain it is winery, while in Romania and probably some parts of Hungary it is the name of the cheap drinking places especially in little villages where people go for only one thing: to drink alchool (mostly hard ones). So here it has a negative connotation. Same here in Denmark -- Anders
Re: kdereview: bodega
Wed, 24 Oct 2012 23:19:57 +0300 you wrote Andras Mantia aman...@kde.org: I hope you are aware about the meaning of the name in certain countries. :) In Spain it is winery, while in Romania and probably some parts of Hungary it is the name of the cheap drinking places especially in little villages where people go for only one thing: to drink alchool (mostly hard ones). So here it has a negative connotation. Interestingly, in Russian it reminds me of bodyaga which means diluted liquid that gets sold as if it is a pure one. Simply put, its alcohol diluted with water :)
Re: kdereview: bodega
Hello Aaron, :: Aaron J. Seigo Mittwoch 24 Oktober 2012 * it is not limited to (or even focused on) software, but any digital asset. I'd like to encourage you to go further and drop the restriction to digital assets eventually. Many people use their computer to buy or share real stuff online. There are increasingly attempts to make this possible via free infrastructure (e.g. http://cirandas.net/search/products), all with their own user interfaces, but also with programmatic interfaces waiting to be connected to desktops. It should be easily possible to define asset content models and delivery options to cover this diversity in a multi-market frontend. While for most digital assets the delivery option may be download or subscribe, for services like cloud storage it may be create an account (or replicate at my own infrastructure for the better ones), and for products like used bikes it may be send it over to me. All of these delivery options would be associated with a webpage to proceed in the most simple case, and there would be corresponding wizards to add new offers which stay under the user's control and are merely propagated to any selected market. No desktop is currently able to capture this multiplicity, but it seems worthwhile to try. Josef
Re: kdereview: bodega
I love you guys. I love the idea of Bogeda. Thanks for making KDE so awesome! Steven Sroka (lin-unix) On 2012-10-24, at 8:10 PM, Josef Spillner spill...@kde.org wrote: Hello Aaron, :: Aaron J. Seigo Mittwoch 24 Oktober 2012 * it is not limited to (or even focused on) software, but any digital asset. I'd like to encourage you to go further and drop the restriction to digital assets eventually. Many people use their computer to buy or share real stuff online. There are increasingly attempts to make this possible via free infrastructure (e.g. http://cirandas.net/search/products), all with their own user interfaces, but also with programmatic interfaces waiting to be connected to desktops. It should be easily possible to define asset content models and delivery options to cover this diversity in a multi-market frontend. While for most digital assets the delivery option may be download or subscribe, for services like cloud storage it may be create an account (or replicate at my own infrastructure for the better ones), and for products like used bikes it may be send it over to me. All of these delivery options would be associated with a webpage to proceed in the most simple case, and there would be corresponding wizards to add new offers which stay under the user's control and are merely propagated to any selected market. No desktop is currently able to capture this multiplicity, but it seems worthwhile to try. Josef
Re: kdereview: bodega
2012/10/24, Josef Spillner spill...@kde.org: Hello Aaron, :: Aaron J. Seigo Mittwoch 24 Oktober 2012 * it is not limited to (or even focused on) software, but any digital asset. I'd like to encourage you to go further and drop the restriction to digital assets eventually. Many people use their computer to buy or share real stuff online. There are increasingly attempts to make this possible via free infrastructure (e.g. http://cirandas.net/search/products), all with their own user interfaces, but also with programmatic interfaces waiting to be connected to desktops. It should be easily possible to define asset content models and delivery options to cover this diversity in a multi-market frontend. While for most digital assets the delivery option may be download or subscribe, for services like cloud storage it may be create an account (or replicate at my own infrastructure for the better ones), and for products like used bikes it may be send it over to me. All of these delivery options would be associated with a webpage to proceed in the most simple case, and there would be corresponding wizards to add new offers which stay under the user's control and are merely propagated to any selected market. No desktop is currently able to capture this multiplicity, but it seems worthwhile to try. I see what you mean, and indeed that's an interesting use case that could use a common solution. But I'm not sure if Bodega is the right place to do it. It might be stretching its scope/goals too much. -- Nicolás
Re: kdereview: bodega
Bring back the kde-devel ML. Please next time keep the cc Cheers, Antonis
