Re: smallish project needed
On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 9:58 AM, Mark wrote: > Well, in that direction.. it's not written in QML or anything.. : > http://ppenz.blogspot.com/2011/08/introducing-dolphin-20.html Just because Dolphin is being rewritten using itemviews-ng and QGraphics* doesn't mean that it's heading towards the QML area. As others have mentioned, full-blown applications like this do not make sense, but lighter ones do (like the phonon thingy). Especially given all that Dolphin has to manage (as mentioned, treeviews, column views, preview display & generation, nepomuk data, tooltips filled with that data)..etc. and dragging. Full dragging support doesn't exist nicely out of the box with QML, which is a huge oversight imho. QML is great for certain uses with applications that do not have sophisticated requirements. For those that do, lets not try to cram QML down everyone's throat just because it ends world hunger, just apply it where it fits the niche nicely ;-p -- Shaun Reich, KDE Software Developer (kde.org)
Re: smallish project needed
On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 4:09 PM, Stefan Majewsky wrote: > On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 3:58 PM, Mark wrote: >>> Dolphin is going in the QML direction? >>> Yes, I think a Juk rewritten in QML could be a good thing. >> >> Well, in that direction.. it's not written in QML or anything.. : >> http://ppenz.blogspot.com/2011/08/introducing-dolphin-20.html > > Of course it depends on the application. QML is not yet at the point > where writing a desktop file manager using it makes sense (see, for > example, tree models). For a media player, though, it can make a lot > of sense. I actually question the usefulness of Qt Quick for a file browser all together. I do not think you'd want to create a complex interface like that with Qt Quick as you'd basically end up implementing half the stuff in C++ anyway. It absolutely and totally makes sense for multimedia apps though, usually their interface is straight forward and needs the additional awesomeness. Just some random thoughts :) regards, Harald
Re: smallish project needed
On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 3:26 PM, Mark wrote: > Ah oke. Just some idea i have now.. Right now someone is working on a > Phonon QML thing. SOMEONE? like seriously? :P I guess I need to work on my public image a bit :P
Re: smallish project needed
On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 3:58 PM, Mark wrote: >> Dolphin is going in the QML direction? >> Yes, I think a Juk rewritten in QML could be a good thing. > > Well, in that direction.. it's not written in QML or anything.. : > http://ppenz.blogspot.com/2011/08/introducing-dolphin-20.html Of course it depends on the application. QML is not yet at the point where writing a desktop file manager using it makes sense (see, for example, tree models). For a media player, though, it can make a lot of sense. Greetings Stefan
Re: smallish project needed
On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 3:53 PM, Tomaz Canabrava wrote: > On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 10:26 AM, Mark wrote: >> On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 3:10 PM, Tomaz Canabrava wrote: >>> juk should be a lightweigth music player, while amarok should be an >>> all-featured media player. I say should because juk is in a stage >>> where it's not lightweigth, for the code there needs much love. that >>> said, juk is part of KDE software, while Amarok does not follow the >>> KDE rules to be part of the official package. ( same release dates for >>> instance ) >>> >>> On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 9:57 AM, Mark wrote: On Wed, Aug 10, 2011 at 12:08 AM, Lydia Pintscher wrote: > On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 03:15, Michael Pyne wrote: >> On Monday, August 08, 2011 18:44:40 Tomaz Canabrava wrote: >>> Juk is an easy target, and in need of love. >> >> Honestly I was going to recommend the same thing. >> >> I don't agree that it's (all) easy (although there is certainly a lot of >> "low- >> hanging fruit"), but it does have the advantage that I'm at least >> available by >> email to help guide/mentor. >> >> In addition I will be completing school very soon, which hopefully >> should add >> some time per day (although that may be offset by the new job I will be >> rotating to soon which will probably involve a longer commute). >> >> Either way, JuK could use some love, there's still someone mostly-active >> who >> can show interested parties around the codebase and I should have piped >> in on >> one of these requests awhile ago (but I've always assumed someone else >> has >> need the help more ;( ) > > Thanks guys. I've suggested him to take a look at JuK. > > > Cheers > Lydia > > -- > Lydia Pintscher > KDE Community Working Group member > http://kde.org - http://about.me/lydia.pintscher > Hi all, Just wondering, but why is there Amorok and JuK? Surely Amarok can do everything JuK can right? JuK even looks "a bit" like Amarok. No pun intended! Thanx, Mark >>> >> >> Ah oke. Just some idea i have now.. Right now someone is working on a >> Phonon QML thing. Wouldn't it be best for JuK to be (mostly) rewritten >> using the phonon QML thing? I mean, KDE 5 seems to be going towards >> QML, Dolphin seems to go in that direction and Dragon 3 is already >> using QML : http://apachelog.wordpress.com/2011/08/07/dragon-player-3/ >> >> Just some random thought.. >> >> And how do i even need to see YuK? As a foobar alternative for KDE? > > Dolphin is going in the QML direction? > Yes, I think a Juk rewritten in QML could be a good thing. > >> Thanx, >> Mark >> > Well, in that direction.. it's not written in QML or anything.. : http://ppenz.blogspot.com/2011/08/introducing-dolphin-20.html
Re: smallish project needed
On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 10:26 AM, Mark wrote: > On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 3:10 PM, Tomaz Canabrava wrote: >> juk should be a lightweigth music player, while amarok should be an >> all-featured media player. I say should because juk is in a stage >> where it's not lightweigth, for the code there needs much love. that >> said, juk is part of KDE software, while Amarok does not follow the >> KDE rules to be part of the official package. ( same release dates for >> instance ) >> >> On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 9:57 AM, Mark wrote: >>> On Wed, Aug 10, 2011 at 12:08 AM, Lydia Pintscher >>> wrote: On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 03:15, Michael Pyne wrote: > On Monday, August 08, 2011 18:44:40 Tomaz Canabrava wrote: >> Juk is an easy target, and in need of love. > > Honestly I was going to recommend the same thing. > > I don't agree that it's (all) easy (although there is certainly a lot of > "low- > hanging fruit"), but it does have the advantage that I'm at least > available by > email to help guide/mentor. > > In addition I will be completing school very soon, which hopefully should > add > some time per day (although that may be offset by the new job I will be > rotating to soon which will probably involve a longer commute). > > Either way, JuK could use some love, there's still someone mostly-active > who > can show interested parties around the codebase and I should have piped > in on > one of these requests awhile ago (but I've always assumed someone else has > need the help more ;( ) Thanks guys. I've suggested him to take a look at JuK. Cheers Lydia -- Lydia Pintscher KDE Community Working Group member http://kde.org - http://about.me/lydia.pintscher >>> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> Just wondering, but why is there Amorok and JuK? Surely Amarok can do >>> everything JuK can right? >>> JuK even looks "a bit" like Amarok. >>> No pun intended! >>> >>> Thanx, >>> Mark >>> >> > > Ah oke. Just some idea i have now.. Right now someone is working on a > Phonon QML thing. Wouldn't it be best for JuK to be (mostly) rewritten > using the phonon QML thing? I mean, KDE 5 seems to be going towards > QML, Dolphin seems to go in that direction and Dragon 3 is already > using QML : http://apachelog.wordpress.com/2011/08/07/dragon-player-3/ > > Just some random thought.. > > And how do i even need to see YuK? As a foobar alternative for KDE? Dolphin is going in the QML direction? Yes, I think a Juk rewritten in QML could be a good thing. > Thanx, > Mark >
Re: smallish project needed
On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 3:10 PM, Tomaz Canabrava wrote: > juk should be a lightweigth music player, while amarok should be an > all-featured media player. I say should because juk is in a stage > where it's not lightweigth, for the code there needs much love. that > said, juk is part of KDE software, while Amarok does not follow the > KDE rules to be part of the official package. ( same release dates for > instance ) > > On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 9:57 AM, Mark wrote: >> On Wed, Aug 10, 2011 at 12:08 AM, Lydia Pintscher >> wrote: >>> On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 03:15, Michael Pyne wrote: On Monday, August 08, 2011 18:44:40 Tomaz Canabrava wrote: > Juk is an easy target, and in need of love. Honestly I was going to recommend the same thing. I don't agree that it's (all) easy (although there is certainly a lot of "low- hanging fruit"), but it does have the advantage that I'm at least available by email to help guide/mentor. In addition I will be completing school very soon, which hopefully should add some time per day (although that may be offset by the new job I will be rotating to soon which will probably involve a longer commute). Either way, JuK could use some love, there's still someone mostly-active who can show interested parties around the codebase and I should have piped in on one of these requests awhile ago (but I've always assumed someone else has need the help more ;( ) >>> >>> Thanks guys. I've suggested him to take a look at JuK. >>> >>> >>> Cheers >>> Lydia >>> >>> -- >>> Lydia Pintscher >>> KDE Community Working Group member >>> http://kde.org - http://about.me/lydia.pintscher >>> >> >> Hi all, >> >> Just wondering, but why is there Amorok and JuK? Surely Amarok can do >> everything JuK can right? >> JuK even looks "a bit" like Amarok. >> No pun intended! >> >> Thanx, >> Mark >> > Ah oke. Just some idea i have now.. Right now someone is working on a Phonon QML thing. Wouldn't it be best for JuK to be (mostly) rewritten using the phonon QML thing? I mean, KDE 5 seems to be going towards QML, Dolphin seems to go in that direction and Dragon 3 is already using QML : http://apachelog.wordpress.com/2011/08/07/dragon-player-3/ Just some random thought.. And how do i even need to see YuK? As a foobar alternative for KDE? Thanx, Mark
Re: smallish project needed
juk should be a lightweigth music player, while amarok should be an all-featured media player. I say should because juk is in a stage where it's not lightweigth, for the code there needs much love. that said, juk is part of KDE software, while Amarok does not follow the KDE rules to be part of the official package. ( same release dates for instance ) On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 9:57 AM, Mark wrote: > On Wed, Aug 10, 2011 at 12:08 AM, Lydia Pintscher > wrote: >> On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 03:15, Michael Pyne wrote: >>> On Monday, August 08, 2011 18:44:40 Tomaz Canabrava wrote: Juk is an easy target, and in need of love. >>> >>> Honestly I was going to recommend the same thing. >>> >>> I don't agree that it's (all) easy (although there is certainly a lot of >>> "low- >>> hanging fruit"), but it does have the advantage that I'm at least available >>> by >>> email to help guide/mentor. >>> >>> In addition I will be completing school very soon, which hopefully should >>> add >>> some time per day (although that may be offset by the new job I will be >>> rotating to soon which will probably involve a longer commute). >>> >>> Either way, JuK could use some love, there's still someone mostly-active who >>> can show interested parties around the codebase and I should have piped in >>> on >>> one of these requests awhile ago (but I've always assumed someone else has >>> need the help more ;( ) >> >> Thanks guys. I've suggested him to take a look at JuK. >> >> >> Cheers >> Lydia >> >> -- >> Lydia Pintscher >> KDE Community Working Group member >> http://kde.org - http://about.me/lydia.pintscher >> > > Hi all, > > Just wondering, but why is there Amorok and JuK? Surely Amarok can do > everything JuK can right? > JuK even looks "a bit" like Amarok. > No pun intended! > > Thanx, > Mark >
Re: smallish project needed
On Wed, Aug 10, 2011 at 12:08 AM, Lydia Pintscher wrote: > On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 03:15, Michael Pyne wrote: >> On Monday, August 08, 2011 18:44:40 Tomaz Canabrava wrote: >>> Juk is an easy target, and in need of love. >> >> Honestly I was going to recommend the same thing. >> >> I don't agree that it's (all) easy (although there is certainly a lot of >> "low- >> hanging fruit"), but it does have the advantage that I'm at least available >> by >> email to help guide/mentor. >> >> In addition I will be completing school very soon, which hopefully should add >> some time per day (although that may be offset by the new job I will be >> rotating to soon which will probably involve a longer commute). >> >> Either way, JuK could use some love, there's still someone mostly-active who >> can show interested parties around the codebase and I should have piped in on >> one of these requests awhile ago (but I've always assumed someone else has >> need the help more ;( ) > > Thanks guys. I've suggested him to take a look at JuK. > > > Cheers > Lydia > > -- > Lydia Pintscher > KDE Community Working Group member > http://kde.org - http://about.me/lydia.pintscher > Hi all, Just wondering, but why is there Amorok and JuK? Surely Amarok can do everything JuK can right? JuK even looks "a bit" like Amarok. No pun intended! Thanx, Mark
Re: smallish project needed
On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 03:15, Michael Pyne wrote: > On Monday, August 08, 2011 18:44:40 Tomaz Canabrava wrote: >> Juk is an easy target, and in need of love. > > Honestly I was going to recommend the same thing. > > I don't agree that it's (all) easy (although there is certainly a lot of "low- > hanging fruit"), but it does have the advantage that I'm at least available by > email to help guide/mentor. > > In addition I will be completing school very soon, which hopefully should add > some time per day (although that may be offset by the new job I will be > rotating to soon which will probably involve a longer commute). > > Either way, JuK could use some love, there's still someone mostly-active who > can show interested parties around the codebase and I should have piped in on > one of these requests awhile ago (but I've always assumed someone else has > need the help more ;( ) Thanks guys. I've suggested him to take a look at JuK. Cheers Lydia -- Lydia Pintscher KDE Community Working Group member http://kde.org - http://about.me/lydia.pintscher
Re: smallish project needed
On Monday, August 08, 2011 18:44:40 Tomaz Canabrava wrote: > Juk is an easy target, and in need of love. Honestly I was going to recommend the same thing. I don't agree that it's (all) easy (although there is certainly a lot of "low- hanging fruit"), but it does have the advantage that I'm at least available by email to help guide/mentor. In addition I will be completing school very soon, which hopefully should add some time per day (although that may be offset by the new job I will be rotating to soon which will probably involve a longer commute). Either way, JuK could use some love, there's still someone mostly-active who can show interested parties around the codebase and I should have piped in on one of these requests awhile ago (but I've always assumed someone else has need the help more ;( ) Regards, - Michael Pyne signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: smallish project needed
Juk is an easy target, and in need of love. On Mon, Aug 8, 2011 at 1:44 PM, Lydia Pintscher wrote: > Heya folks :) > > I'm at the Desktop Summit and was asked by someone for a smallish > project that he could hack on in KDE and that needs help. Ideally he'd > like to start hacking on it tomorrow and work more on it over the next > couple of days during the workshops. > If you have nice ideas please let me know quickly. > > > Cheers > Lydia > > -- > Lydia Pintscher > KDE Community Working Group member > http://kde.org - http://about.me/lydia.pintscher >
smallish project needed
Heya folks :) I'm at the Desktop Summit and was asked by someone for a smallish project that he could hack on in KDE and that needs help. Ideally he'd like to start hacking on it tomorrow and work more on it over the next couple of days during the workshops. If you have nice ideas please let me know quickly. Cheers Lydia -- Lydia Pintscher KDE Community Working Group member http://kde.org - http://about.me/lydia.pintscher
