Re: Proposal: "Noteworthy" label for Promo application updates

2020-04-23 Thread Nate Graham

On 4/23/20 6:29 AM, XYQuadrat wrote:
(Aside: It appears to me that I'm too young to use mailing lists 
correctly... It has now happened twice that I responded to a single 
person instead of the whole list - sincere apologies and one day I'll 
figure out this arcane technology.)


Sane email clients will do the right thing. Thunderbird for example 
displays a "Reply list" button: https://i.imgur.com/hQ525ul.png


(Aside to the aside: I hope we can move to Discourse soon so that the 
people who prefer a forum-style experience can use the web interface, 
and the people who prefer a mailing list style experience can use the 
email interface.)


Nate


Re: Proposal: "Noteworthy" label for Promo application updates

2020-04-23 Thread Thomas Baumgart
Julian,

On Donnerstag, 23. April 2020 14:29:23 CEST XYQuadrat wrote:

> (Aside: It appears to me that I'm too young to use mailing lists 
> correctly... It has now happened twice that I responded to a single 
> person instead of the whole list - sincere apologies and one day I'll 
> figure out this arcane technology.)

Maybe, you just get fooled by your mail program. There is clear information
on where the response should be sent to in each mail from the mailing list:

  Reply-To: kde-devel@kde.org

and that should be picked up by the mail program automatically.

So if you press 'reply' and you mail program takes another address, open
the window (the physical one) and throw your mail program out and
get a real one :)

For me this simply works (using our own KMail). OK, and on top of that,
I spent most of my life so far in the last millennium ;)

Cheers.

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Re: Proposal: "Noteworthy" label for Promo application updates

2020-04-23 Thread XYQuadrat
I think filtering MR's based on the target branch (e.g. release/20.04) 
should work here, as the releases are (as far as I am aware) then 
generated from these branches.


For issues, this would only work if we also made "Releases" (the GitLab 
feature) based on the git tag. I am not sure if this is productive, 
because it would be an additional effort required for every release.


Best regards,
Julian

(Aside: It appears to me that I'm too young to use mailing lists 
correctly... It has now happened twice that I responded to a single 
person instead of the whole list - sincere apologies and one day I'll 
figure out this arcane technology.)


On 21.04.20 23:27, Albert Astals Cid wrote:
El dilluns, 20 d’abril de 2020, a les 13:46:47 CEST, Carl Schwan va 
escriure:
I think the easiest would be to use the GitLab tags. Hopefully, we 
will soon use

Gitlab for everything and then it won't be a problem.

For example, promo will just need to go to these two links to find 
all the information

we need:


* https://invent.kde.org/groups/kde/-/issues?label_name%5B%5D=Noteworthy
* 
https://invent.kde.org/groups/kde/-/merge_requests?label_name%5B%5D=Noteworthy

How do you know in that url what is in one release and what is not?

So we don't have the mistake that we announce something is in a 
release when instead is in the next one?


Cheers,
Albert


Carl

‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐
Le dimanche, avril 19, 2020 9:15 AM, Ben Cooksley  
a écrit :



On Sun, Apr 19, 2020 at 8:34 PM XYQuadrat m...@xyquadrat.ch wrote:


If we implement such a system (that is, just resurrect what is already
present), I definitely think it would be sensible to make guidelines on
what commits we are interested in publicly available.
The thing I'm not sure about is how easy it'd be to automate grabbing
all the CHANGELOG commits from a given date range - can someone more
experienced with our git/repo infrastructure shed some light here?

That depends on whether you have local, up to date, clones of the
repositories in question.
If you have them locally it should be reasonably trivial with a bit of
scripting to get a list of commits and the repositories to which they
belong.

If you don't, then the only other option you would have would be
Gitlab's APIs but that isn't ideal from an infrastructural point of
view.


Best regards,
Julian / xyquadrat

Cheers,
Ben


On 17.04.20 01:19, Johannes Zarl-Zierl wrote:


On Donnerstag, 16. April 2020 23:15:18 CEST Nate Graham wrote:


On 4/16/20 2:38 PM, Albert Astals Cid wrote:


It may make sense to highlight them a bit more somehow, suggestions
welcome i guess.
The promo people just need a list of all CHANGELOG entries in a 
release
so they can rewrite it in more human-friendly terms. Right now 
this is
done manually by me and others by looking through commit logs 
and blog

posts and adding the equivalent of CHANGELOG text into an
etherpad/share.kde.org document. Automating that somehow would 
be nice.
From a developer point of view, a tag in the commit itself seems 
like

a nice
interface. One thing I fear, though, is that people like me 
forget to

actually
add it to the commit before pushing, so maybe something that can 
be added

later would definitely have its advantages.

Personally, I'd like to have some clear guidelines from the promo team
on what
kind of features they are looking for. That way it's way easier 
for me to

match those expectations ;-)
Btw. isn't the DIGEST keyword as documented in the standard commit
template
basically the same idea?
Cheers,
Johannes