Re: Do you use votes on Bugzilla tickets to help you make decisions?
Yes, I botched the communication on this, my apologies about that. Voting has now been disabled on Bugzilla. We are investigating ways to make the CC count affect the bug janitor's automatic priority categorization in its stead. Nate On 9/3/23 15:45, Elvis Stansvik wrote: I noticed today that my votes on some bugs had been removed. Visiting the bugs I see there's no longer any way to vote. So I guess as a result of this discussion, voting was disabled on some products? No problem with me, but would have been nice with some sort of announcement (sorry if I missed it!) Elvis Den fre 4 aug. 2023 kl 23:55 skrev Harald Sitter : Never looked at them. Never seen the benefit. On Fri, Aug 4, 2023 at 3:53 PM Nate Graham wrote: Hello folks! I often find myself explaining to users that votes on Bugzilla tickets are generally meaningless and not used by most developers to help prioritize work. After I explain this, they generally express surprise, as it's not obvious. I find myself wondering whether it would make sense to disable the voting feature by default to avoid giving our users this false impression. So if you *do* take user votes into consideration when determining what tickets to prioritize, I'd like to hear from you! Nate
Re: Do you use votes on Bugzilla tickets to help you make decisions?
El diumenge, 3 de setembre de 2023, a les 23:45:50 (CEST), Elvis Stansvik va escriure: > I noticed today that my votes on some bugs had been removed. Visiting > the bugs I see there's no longer any way to vote. > > So I guess as a result of this discussion, voting was disabled on some > products? > > No problem with me, but would have been nice with some sort of > announcement (sorry if I missed it!) I'm with Elvis. Why were votes removed? Or was this a mistake? The discussion here was IMO not conclusive. And even if it was, it needs to be announced before it happens. Otherwise we have 0 knowledge of what's going on and have no way to answer our users when they start complaining of why the votes are gone. Albert > > Elvis > > Den fre 4 aug. 2023 kl 23:55 skrev Harald Sitter : > > Never looked at them. Never seen the benefit. > > > > On Fri, Aug 4, 2023 at 3:53 PM Nate Graham wrote: > > > Hello folks! > > > > > > I often find myself explaining to users that votes on Bugzilla tickets > > > are generally meaningless and not used by most developers to help > > > prioritize work. After I explain this, they generally express surprise, > > > as it's not obvious. > > > > > > I find myself wondering whether it would make sense to disable the > > > voting feature by default to avoid giving our users this false > > > impression. > > > > > > So if you *do* take user votes into consideration when determining what > > > tickets to prioritize, I'd like to hear from you! > > > > > > > > > Nate
Re: Do you use votes on Bugzilla tickets to help you make decisions?
I noticed today that my votes on some bugs had been removed. Visiting the bugs I see there's no longer any way to vote. So I guess as a result of this discussion, voting was disabled on some products? No problem with me, but would have been nice with some sort of announcement (sorry if I missed it!) Elvis Den fre 4 aug. 2023 kl 23:55 skrev Harald Sitter : > > Never looked at them. Never seen the benefit. > > On Fri, Aug 4, 2023 at 3:53 PM Nate Graham wrote: > > > > Hello folks! > > > > I often find myself explaining to users that votes on Bugzilla tickets > > are generally meaningless and not used by most developers to help > > prioritize work. After I explain this, they generally express surprise, > > as it's not obvious. > > > > I find myself wondering whether it would make sense to disable the > > voting feature by default to avoid giving our users this false impression. > > > > So if you *do* take user votes into consideration when determining what > > tickets to prioritize, I'd like to hear from you! > > > > > > Nate
Re: Do you use votes on Bugzilla tickets to help you make decisions?
If we were to remove them, users would have no way to show that they care about a bug aside from adding annoying "Please fix this, it is important to me"-comments. So in that sense it serves a similar purpose as the duplicates count. Duplicates count is very imprecise though because there will be more duplicates for bugs that are difficult to search for. Votes aren't a great metric either but it is sometimes interesting tp me to see when many people felt compelled to vote on a bug. So I do look at them as an additional metric to see how many people are negatively impacted by a bug. I don't feel that strongly about them overall though. Felix On Fri, Aug 4, 2023 at 3:53 PM Nate Graham wrote: > > Hello folks! > > I often find myself explaining to users that votes on Bugzilla tickets > are generally meaningless and not used by most developers to help > prioritize work. After I explain this, they generally express surprise, > as it's not obvious. > > I find myself wondering whether it would make sense to disable the > voting feature by default to avoid giving our users this false impression. > > So if you *do* take user votes into consideration when determining what > tickets to prioritize, I'd like to hear from you! > > > Nate
Re: Do you use votes on Bugzilla tickets to help you make decisions?
On vrijdag 4 augustus 2023 15:52:36 CEST Nate Graham wrote: > Hello folks! > > I often find myself explaining to users that votes on Bugzilla tickets > are generally meaningless and not used by most developers to help > prioritize work. After I explain this, they generally express surprise, > as it's not obvious. > > I find myself wondering whether it would make sense to disable the > voting feature by default to avoid giving our users this false impression. > > So if you *do* take user votes into consideration when determining what > tickets to prioritize, I'd like to hear from you! > I never take them into account. I'm an adult, I can set my own priorities. Halla
Re: Do you use votes on Bugzilla tickets to help you make decisions?
Never looked at them. Never seen the benefit. On Fri, Aug 4, 2023 at 3:53 PM Nate Graham wrote: > > Hello folks! > > I often find myself explaining to users that votes on Bugzilla tickets > are generally meaningless and not used by most developers to help > prioritize work. After I explain this, they generally express surprise, > as it's not obvious. > > I find myself wondering whether it would make sense to disable the > voting feature by default to avoid giving our users this false impression. > > So if you *do* take user votes into consideration when determining what > tickets to prioritize, I'd like to hear from you! > > > Nate
Re: Do you use votes on Bugzilla tickets to help you make decisions?
I do vote on Bugzilla, but given the limited development resource, I find vote less useful than the number of duplicates or CCs.
Do you use votes on Bugzilla tickets to help you make decisions?
Hello folks! I often find myself explaining to users that votes on Bugzilla tickets are generally meaningless and not used by most developers to help prioritize work. After I explain this, they generally express surprise, as it's not obvious. I find myself wondering whether it would make sense to disable the voting feature by default to avoid giving our users this false impression. So if you *do* take user votes into consideration when determining what tickets to prioritize, I'd like to hear from you! Nate
