Re: RFC: Switching to min Qt version 5.14 for KF on December 14th

2020-12-06 Thread Loïc Bartoletti

Hi,

Le 06/12/2020 à 18:05, David Faure a écrit :

On dimanche 6 décembre 2020 17:39:38 CET Albert Astals Cid wrote:

  * MidnightBSD
  * openBSD
The BSDs are a bit more unfortunate.

Thanks for the information, Albert.

Apparently this means bumping the requirement to Qt 5.14 would break OpenBSD.

How can we reach OpenBSD KDE people?
CC'ing kde-free...@kde.org, I know it's not the same, but maybe you guys know?
;)

For OpenBSD It's (mainly) Rafael Sadowski aka sizeofvoid: sadowski at 
openbsd.org


Regards.

Loïc



Re: RFC: Switching to min Qt version 5.14 for KF on December 14th

2020-12-06 Thread Adriaan de Groot
On Sunday, 6 December 2020 18:05:19 CET David Faure wrote:
> On dimanche 6 décembre 2020 17:39:38 CET Albert Astals Cid wrote:
> >  * MidnightBSD
> >  * openBSD
> > 
> > The BSDs are a bit more unfortunate.
> 
> Thanks for the information, Albert.
> 
> Apparently this means bumping the requirement to Qt 5.14 would break
> OpenBSD.
> 
> How can we reach OpenBSD KDE people?
> CC'ing kde-free...@kde.org, I know it's not the same, but maybe you guys
> know? ;)

Rafael Sadowski , ping them on invent or on phab (or in the CC of this message 
:) ).

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Re: RFC: Switching to min Qt version 5.14 for KF on December 14th

2020-12-06 Thread Ben Cooksley
On Mon, Dec 7, 2020 at 6:05 AM David Faure  wrote:

> On dimanche 6 décembre 2020 17:39:38 CET Albert Astals Cid wrote:
> >  * MidnightBSD
> >  * openBSD
> > The BSDs are a bit more unfortunate.
>
> Thanks for the information, Albert.
>
> Apparently this means bumping the requirement to Qt 5.14 would break
> OpenBSD.
>
> How can we reach OpenBSD KDE people?
> CC'ing kde-free...@kde.org, I know it's not the same, but maybe you guys
> know?
> ;)
>

The "distribution point of contacts" list that Sysadmin maintains says
openbsd-...@googlegroups.com is the appropriate mailing list for KDE on
OpenBSD.

Cheers,
Ben


> --
> David Faure, fa...@kde.org, http://www.davidfaure.fr
> Working on KDE Frameworks 5
>
>
>
>


KDE CI: Frameworks » kdav » kf5-qt5 WindowsMSVCQt5.15 - Build # 11 - Still unstable!

2020-12-06 Thread CI System
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Re: RFC: Switching to min Qt version 5.14 for KF on December 14th

2020-12-06 Thread David Faure
On dimanche 6 décembre 2020 17:39:38 CET Albert Astals Cid wrote:
>  * MidnightBSD
>  * openBSD
> The BSDs are a bit more unfortunate.

Thanks for the information, Albert.

Apparently this means bumping the requirement to Qt 5.14 would break OpenBSD.

How can we reach OpenBSD KDE people?
CC'ing kde-free...@kde.org, I know it's not the same, but maybe you guys know? 
;)

-- 
David Faure, fa...@kde.org, http://www.davidfaure.fr
Working on KDE Frameworks 5





Re: RFC: Switching to min Qt version 5.14 for KF on December 14th

2020-12-06 Thread Albert Astals Cid
El diumenge, 6 de desembre de 2020, a les 14:20:47 CET, Friedrich W. H. 
Kossebau va escriure:
> Hi,
> 
> you might have seen I asked* whether anyone knows a real world requirement to 
> stick with Qt 5.13 as new current minimum required Qt version for current KF 
> releases. So far no-one had to report a reason to support Qt >= 5.13 instead 
> of only Qt >= 5.14 now.
> * E.g. https://mail.kde.org/pipermail/distributions/2020-December/000894.html
> 
> So hereby I propose to switch for KF 5.78 to Qt 5.14 as minimum version, and 
> change the KF dependencies policy text* to this:
> * https://community.kde.org/Frameworks/Policies#Frameworks_Qt_requirements 
> 
> "
> With Qt6 this changes a little bit again. We interpolate "as if" more Qt 5 
> versions would be released. Then adapt to actual real world usage of a given 
> Qt version:
> * Qt 5.13 will be the minimum required version 6 months after Qt 5.15, i.e. 
> on 
> 26 Nov 2020
> * Qt 5.14 would be the minimum required version 12 months after Qt 5.15, i.e. 
> on 26 May 2021. With no-one known to stick with Qt 5.13, the date is moved to 
> earlier mid-December 2020.
> * Qt 5.15 LTS will be the minimum required version 18 months after its 
> release, i.e. on 26 Nov 2021
> "
> 
> from previous
> 
> "
> With Qt6 this changes a little bit again. We interpolate "as if" more Qt 5 
> versions would be released: 
> * Qt 5.13 will be the minimum required version 6 months after Qt 5.15, i.e. 
> on 
> 26 Nov 2020
> * Qt 5.14 will be the minimum required version 12 months after Qt 5.15, i.e. 
> on 26 May 2021
> * Qt 5.15 LTS will be the minimum required version 18 months after its 
> release, i.e. on 26 Nov 2021
> "
> 
> I also propose that if no objections pop up until Monday, December 14th, CET 
> Noon, we then go that day and update the policy and have our dependency 
> bumping service people execute the bump to Qt 5.14.
> 
> Your comments, please :)

Personally what interests me more as a minimum Qt version is not what 
distributions will be shipping it, but what they have already shipped so 
existing people can become developers without having to compile all of Qt.

Looking at https://repology.org/project/qt/badges 

The distros with Qt 5.13 are:
 * Chakra
 * Fedora 31
 * MidnightBSD
 * openBSD
 * OpenMandriva 4.0

Both Fedora 31 and OpenMandriva 4.0 have releases with newer Qt so I guess 
those wanting to develop have a relatively easy path forward.

Chakra seems on the "almost dead" area (Qt 5.13 for what's supposedly a rolling 
distribution is not a good sign) so i'm going to guess it doesn't have many 
users still.

The BSDs are a bit more unfortunate.

Not a -1 nor a -1 from my side, just wanting to provide a different perspective 
that's looking to the past of distributions and not to the future.

Cheers,
  Albert



> 
> Cheers
> Friedrich
> 
> 
> 






D22093: Don't show progress window for jobs that don't report progress

2020-12-06 Thread Nicolas Fella
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D23835: Add TabKCM

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RFC: Switching to min Qt version 5.14 for KF on December 14th

2020-12-06 Thread Friedrich W. H. Kossebau
Hi,

you might have seen I asked* whether anyone knows a real world requirement to 
stick with Qt 5.13 as new current minimum required Qt version for current KF 
releases. So far no-one had to report a reason to support Qt >= 5.13 instead 
of only Qt >= 5.14 now.
* E.g. https://mail.kde.org/pipermail/distributions/2020-December/000894.html

So hereby I propose to switch for KF 5.78 to Qt 5.14 as minimum version, and 
change the KF dependencies policy text* to this:
* https://community.kde.org/Frameworks/Policies#Frameworks_Qt_requirements 

"
With Qt6 this changes a little bit again. We interpolate "as if" more Qt 5 
versions would be released. Then adapt to actual real world usage of a given 
Qt version:
* Qt 5.13 will be the minimum required version 6 months after Qt 5.15, i.e. on 
26 Nov 2020
* Qt 5.14 would be the minimum required version 12 months after Qt 5.15, i.e. 
on 26 May 2021. With no-one known to stick with Qt 5.13, the date is moved to 
earlier mid-December 2020.
* Qt 5.15 LTS will be the minimum required version 18 months after its 
release, i.e. on 26 Nov 2021
"

from previous

"
With Qt6 this changes a little bit again. We interpolate "as if" more Qt 5 
versions would be released: 
* Qt 5.13 will be the minimum required version 6 months after Qt 5.15, i.e. on 
26 Nov 2020
* Qt 5.14 will be the minimum required version 12 months after Qt 5.15, i.e. 
on 26 May 2021
* Qt 5.15 LTS will be the minimum required version 18 months after its 
release, i.e. on 26 Nov 2021
"

I also propose that if no objections pop up until Monday, December 14th, CET 
Noon, we then go that day and update the policy and have our dependency 
bumping service people execute the bump to Qt 5.14.

Your comments, please :)

Cheers
Friedrich