[kde-freebsd] [SVN Commit] area51/PORTS/graphics/kphotoalbum-kde4

2013-01-18 Thread Alberto Villa
SVN commit 8946 by avilla:

- Fix plist.



 M  +237 -0pkg-plist  


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Re: [kde-freebsd] [PATCH] CLucene 0.9.x - 2.3.x

2013-01-18 Thread Jung-uk Kim
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On 2013-01-16 01:42:15 -0500, Baptiste Daroussin wrote:
 On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 07:20:37PM -0500, Jung-uk Kim wrote:
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 On 2013-01-15 10:05:01 -0500, Max Brazhnikov wrote:
 On Fri, 11 Jan 2013 17:41:02 -0500, Jung-uk Kim wrote:
 LibreOffice 3.6 and later requires CLucene 2.3 but we have
 0.9.x in the source tree.  I'd like to import it now before
 we start working on LO.  Please see attached clucene2.diff.
 
 Changes: - Upgrade CLucene 0.9.21 to the last stable version,
 i. e., 0.9.21b. - Import CLucene 2.3.3.4.  It is required by 
 LibreOffice 3.6 and later. - Register conflicts between 0.9.x
 and 2.3.x.
 
 Please review the attached patch.
 
 I see no reason to keep old clucene, it's unmaintained
 upstream. I'd deprecated textproc/p5-Lucene and updated
 textproc/clucene directly to 2.x.
 
 Although I agree with you in general, we can't just set it
 BROKEN without the maintainers' consent, can we?  (FYI,
 textproc/p5-Lucene is maintained by perl@).
 
 
 First yes we can, if there is really no other choice, secondly
 given that nothing depends on it, I approve the BROKEN.

Okay.  If clsung and tj agree, then we can upgrade clucene and remove
clucene-contrib.  Who's going to be the maintainer, then?

 regards, Bapt with perl@ hat :)

Ah, I forgot that you have many many hats in your closet. ;-)

JK
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Re: [kde-freebsd] [PATCH] CLucene 0.9.x - 2.3.x

2013-01-18 Thread Tom Judge
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On 1/16/13 1:59 PM, Jung-uk Kim wrote:
 On 2013-01-16 01:42:15 -0500, Baptiste Daroussin wrote:
 On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 07:20:37PM -0500, Jung-uk Kim wrote:
 -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1
 
 On 2013-01-15 10:05:01 -0500, Max Brazhnikov wrote:
 On Fri, 11 Jan 2013 17:41:02 -0500, Jung-uk Kim wrote:
 LibreOffice 3.6 and later requires CLucene 2.3 but we have 
 0.9.x in the source tree.  I'd like to import it now
 before we start working on LO.  Please see attached
 clucene2.diff.
 
 Changes: - Upgrade CLucene 0.9.21 to the last stable
 version, i. e., 0.9.21b. - Import CLucene 2.3.3.4.  It is
 required by LibreOffice 3.6 and later. - Register conflicts
 between 0.9.x and 2.3.x.
 
 Please review the attached patch.
 
 I see no reason to keep old clucene, it's unmaintained 
 upstream. I'd deprecated textproc/p5-Lucene and updated 
 textproc/clucene directly to 2.x.
 
 Although I agree with you in general, we can't just set it 
 BROKEN without the maintainers' consent, can we?  (FYI, 
 textproc/p5-Lucene is maintained by perl@).
 
 
 First yes we can, if there is really no other choice, secondly 
 given that nothing depends on it, I approve the BROKEN.
 
 Okay.  If clsung and tj agree, then we can upgrade clucene and
 remove clucene-contrib.  Who's going to be the maintainer, then?
 

This is fine by me.

Tom

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[kde-freebsd] FreeBSD 8.2 with pre-built KDE 3.5 package from FreeBSD 7.1 DVD

2013-01-18 Thread Georg Reilinger
Hi everybody,

I know that I am not subscribed to this list, but getting on here seems to be 

a somewhat difficult task and I promise that my email won't be a spam one :)

My issue is the following:

As far as I know, FreeBSD has completely dropped support for KDE 3.5. 

Whether it's the ports, or the pkg_add precompiled binaries. Am I right in 

assuming this?


I am currently running a live version of FreeBSD 8.2 with KDE 4.8. The thing 

here is that KDE 4 is simply too heavy for my system. For example: it is 

impossible for me to have two open shells at the same time. Once I exit a 

given shell, I can't open another one due to a lack of resources, even after 
having 

turned off all the extra stuff - plasma desktop, nepomuk...

As a consequence, I can see myself do two possible things, to have a system 

running with KDE 3.5 once again:

1. go back to an older release of FreeBSD and install KDE 3.5 from the 

precompiled binaries that are on the DVD donwload version.
Judging by the release announcements, this should be 7.1.

http://www.freebsd.org/releases/7.1R/announce.html

This is something that I don't really feel like doing.

2. To be honest, I am quite happy with 8.2 and I would like to keep it for 
some time to come. In other words, is there a way to keep 8.2 and still 
have KDE 3.5 along with it? For example has anyone ever tried to 
install a 7.1 pre-built package (KDE 3.5 in this case) on an 8.2 system? 
Is that possible?


Any other solutions?


Many thanks
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Re: [kde-freebsd] FreeBSD 8.2 with pre-built KDE 3.5 package from FreeBSD 7.1 DVD

2013-01-18 Thread Schaich Alonso
On 2013-01-18 01:21:11 Georg Reilinger wrote:
 Hi everybody,
 
 I know that I am not subscribed to this list, but getting on here seems to
 be a somewhat difficult task and I promise that my email won't be a spam
 one :)

Getting on the list is quite easy, just send an email to
kde-freebsd-requ...@kde.org
with title subscribe. IIRC you will then be sent a confirmation email that 
requests you to visit an URL.

 
 My issue is the following:
 
 As far as I know, FreeBSD has completely dropped support for KDE 3.5.
 Whether it's the ports, or the pkg_add precompiled binaries. Am I right in
 assuming this?
 

There were discussions on this multiple times on the freebsd-ports mailing 
list in the last two years and I haven't followed them all but AFAIK it's 
unsupported now after having been marked deprecated/broken/ignore for ages.

pkg_* is basically ports without the need to compile things yourself.

 
 I am currently running a live version of FreeBSD 8.2 with KDE 4.8. The thing
 here is that KDE 4 is simply too heavy for my system. For example: it is
 impossible for me to have two open shells at the same time. Once I exit a
 given shell, I can't open another one due to a lack of resources, even after
 having turned off all the extra stuff - plasma desktop, nepomuk...

The two konsole instances will share almost all of their memory though, and if 
you restart a konsole the new one should claim about the same amount of memory 
than it's precedor did, therefore the cause of this is very likely somewhere 
else (I suspect dbus is to be blamed). When you can't open a new konsole the 
next time, can you try opening a xterm and launching konsole from that xterm? 
The xterm might report some information about konsole's doings that way.


Some analysis...

Did you check the sysctl recommendation in
x11-toolkits/qt4-gui/pkg-message
in the ports collection?

Have you verified you are runing out of resources (i.e. out of memory or 
oom kernel messages) or are you just suspecting it? What proccesses are the 
largest memory consumers when OOM happens, and what is the kill order of the 
OOM recovery?

Is it only konsole that can't be started or are other kde applications 
affected, too? If not, can non-kde memory hogs (openoffice, evolution, 
firefox, java*, ...) be started? If not, can any graphical applications at all 
be started (by a KDE interface)?

How much phyiscal and swap memory is avaliable to the system?

 
 As a consequence, I can see myself do two possible things, to have a system
 running with KDE 3.5 once again:
 
 1. go back to an older release of FreeBSD and install KDE 3.5 from the
 precompiled binaries that are on the DVD donwload version.
 Judging by the release announcements, this should be 7.1.
 
 http://www.freebsd.org/releases/7.1R/announce.html
 
 This is something that I don't really feel like doing.
 
 2. To be honest, I am quite happy with 8.2 and I would like to keep it for
 some time to come. In other words, is there a way to keep 8.2 and still
 have KDE 3.5 along with it? For example has anyone ever tried to
 install a 7.1 pre-built package (KDE 3.5 in this case) on an 8.2 system?
 Is that possible?
 
 
 Any other solutions?

(1)
FreeBSD (in theory) has backward compatibily back to the 1990s. Therefore you 
can use elements of FreeBSD-7.1 in a 8.2 installation. If the userspace lacks 
files or symbols inside libraries, is otherwise incompatible, or you just 
want to go the safe way to begin with, you can install 7.1 into /compat or 
some other path of your choice and chroot into it. Afterwards install the 
desired packages into the chrooted 7.1 installation and the host system 
should be able run them.

There's a wiki entry for running wine in a 32-bit FreeBSD-8 chroot inside a 
64-bit FreeBSD-8 system, in your case it would be a FreeBSD-7 chroot inside a 
FreeBSD-8 system, the procedure to do this is more or less the same (during 
that guide, /usr/src would need to contain FreeBSD-7.1, /usr/ports be the 
old ports, and so on).

https://wiki.freebsd.org/Wine

You will need the COMPAT_FREEBSD7 kernel option (which is enabled by default 
on all official releases and GENERIC).


(2)
Given the fact KDE-3 is no longer maintained by the KDE-SC project, the fact 
KDE-3 was just as bloated and therefore (for those days) resource hungry as 
KDE-4 is now, as well as the fact it lacks many modern desktop features 
nevertheless, you might want to take a look at xfce4.
While it lacks many features of KDE-4 it's a solid desktop environment, 
actively developed and supported and also has a much lower memory footprint 
than KDE or GNOME.

freshports:
http://www.freshports.org/x11-wm/xfce4

At this point however I will tell you my Atom D330 can run KDE-4.8 on 
FreeBSD-9 with 512MB physical memory + 4GB swap and it's quite usable. I.e. 
it's still usable with multiple konsole windows open at the same time, and I 
didn't even bother to disable nepomuk, akonadi and their DBMS friends.


(3)
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