[kmail2] [Bug 390733] KMail cannot send mails using gmail smtp

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--- Comment #27 from jshand2...@gmail.com ---
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> I found a workround is to set the SMTP verification method to XOAUTH2 and
> use the same password as you login password. I didn't enable two-factor
> authentication.

i got this working quite a while back now, early 2022.  thanks for your reply. 
this is now a default setting with kmail

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I found a workround is to set the SMTP verification method to XOAUTH2 and use
the same password as you login password. I didn't enable two-factor
authentication.

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--- Comment #25 from jshand2...@gmail.com ---
this issue seems to be present in the most recent version

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--- Comment #24 from jakub.kuzn...@myswissmail.ch ---
>From 30th of May, google does not allow for "Less secure apps" meaning sending
the emails via stmp using as login email and account password is not allowed.
Method described above using application passwords is working, but is not
recommended by google. And is also little problematic for not aware end user.
As described in the google help modern applications use some other methods to
get access to the gmail. Therefore kmail will need to follow this in feature.

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--- Comment #23 from Lukas Ba.  ---
(In reply to DeMus from comment #3)
> Same here. I have 1 POP and 1 IMAP account in KMail but sending from both
> accounts is not possible. 

POP3 and IMAP are protocols for receiving emails, not for sending emails. Only
SMTP supports sending emails. So what you are saying is not a bug.

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--- Comment #22 from Lukas Ba.  ---
Works fine for me. I will describe my setup here. For the sake of a minimal
test i just setup a sending account with SNMP and no receiving account.

Google
I enabled two factor authentication in Google settings, and there i obtained an
app specific password for App Email.

Kmail
In the accounts settings:
I have an identity setup, and in that, in advanced i refer to my outgoing
account.
In Receiving, i do not have setup any Incoming account.
In Sending have setup up a outgoing account of type SMTP...

... detailed settings below:
General tab
outgoing mailserver: smtp.gmail.com
Server requires authentication: Yes / checked
User: usermyn...@gmail.com
Password: My application specific password
Store SMTP Password: Yes / checked

Advanced tab
Connection settings:
Encryption: STARTTLS
Port: 587
Authentication: Plain

SMTP settings:
Here every box is empty or set to no / not checked

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--- Comment #21 from Tim Wright  ---
I've encountered the exact same problem: cannot sent SMTP mail from KMail to a
Google GMail account. It just stays in the outbox, no error messages or status.
Receiving POP mail works fine. My KMail was sending fine, then no more.  I'm
running KMail 5.14.2 (20.04.2) KDE Frameworks 5.71.0 and Qt 5.12.7 (built
against 5.12.7)
Last activity on this bug was July 2019. Has anything come out of this?

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--- Comment #20 from Axel Braun  ---
(In reply to Tom Kijas from comment #19)
> Axel Braun: Ok, do you use 2AUTH? 

Good question - I dont know. I gues KMail does the required setup at the first
login/Sendmail. It is just configured as SMTP

> Is it Google Apps email (on your domain)?

Yes, its an external domain hosted by gmail

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--- Comment #19 from Tom Kijas  ---
Axel Braun: Ok, do you use 2AUTH? Is it Google Apps email (on your domain)?
It seems to be problem in Akonadi, it crashes and has to be restarted.
Bugs #345979 and mainly #395846 seems to be related.

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--- Comment #18 from Axel Braun  ---
(In reply to Tom Kijas from comment #17)
> KDE 5.16.1 the bug still exists, KMail is still unusable with GMail (google
> apps) account.

I'm running KMail 5.11.2 and have no issues sending via smtp.gmail.com

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--- Comment #17 from Tom Kijas  ---
KDE 5.16.1 the bug still exists, KMail is still unusable with GMail (google
apps) account.

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--- Comment #16 from Tom Kijas  ---
The bug still exists in brand new installations of KDE Neon/KMail.
"Item query returned empty result set kmail..."
KDE Frameworks 5.54.0
Qt 5.11.2 (sestaveno oproti 5.11.2)
xcb okenního systému

Brand new installation of KDE Neon:

KDEPIM 18.12.1
KDEPIM Runtime 18.12.1
KMail package 18.12.1

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--- Comment #15 from Michael D  ---
After switching to two-factor authentication and generating an app-specific
password from google, I was able to receive and send emails once I set in kmail
authentication to "plain" instead of "gmail".

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--- Comment #14 from Michael D  ---
I recently started getting this issue as well on Manjaro testing running kmail
5.9.3, kdepim and kdepim-runtime versions 18.08.3-1. I can receive emails from
my gmail account just fine using imap, but I cannot send emails. It used to
work not that long ago.

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--- Comment #13 from Christoph Feck  ---
Those versions look like an unsupported mix of various KDEPIM versions. Please
stick to a single version. The following table might help to associate KDEPIM
versions with KDE Applications releases:

5.9.x   18.08.x
5.8.x   18.04.x
5.7.x   17.12.x
5.6.x   17.08.x

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--- Comment #12 from Tom Kijas  ---
Yes, my apology.
kdepim: 17.08.3
kdepim-runtime: 18.08.2
libkgapi: 18.08.2
Kmail: 5.7.2

I am the person who reported this bug.

The point is, it works for some time (hour or two, 3 or 4 emails sent), then,
no matter if using GMail or Exchange, it just stops to send them.

In the most of the time the emails stays in Outgoing folder, rarely it says
"item query returned empty result set kmail"

It happens on 3 computers I use.

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--- Comment #11 from Christophe Giboudeaux  ---
Please specify:
- Your kdepim-runtime version,
- your libkgapi version,
- your KMail version

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--- Comment #10 from Tom Kijas  ---
Same problem on both Google and Exchange account.

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--- Comment #9 from Tom Kijas  ---
Now it is similar, but this time, KMail doesn't even tell me there is an error,
the mail simply hangs in Outgoing folder!
That's so unprofessional...

Je tu někdo, s kým by se dalo na vyřešení problému pracovat?

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--- Comment #8 from Axel Braun  ---
I just ran into a similar problem (kmail 5.9.0) as the mail account hosted on
gmail suddenly turned red and did not update with new mail.

As it was an IMAP account, I deleted the local account and recreated it. Still
it did not update. Solution: changed the account authentification method from
Gmail to Plain. Now mails can be retrieved again!

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--- Comment #7 from Shmerl  ---
I have this problem on a newly set up system, and older system with same Kmail
that was setup in in the past with exactly same settings works just fine. I
*don't* have two factor authentication enabled.

Really weird, and it seems to be a bug in Kmail account setup itself, since
older installation works fine.

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--- Comment #6 from DeMus  ---
Message I get is:

E-Mail Sending Failed

Failed to transport message. Connection timed out Failed to store result in
item. Item query returned empty result set 

Is there a way to setup a time-out somewhere? Google says:
Server timeouts Greater than 1 minute (5 is recommended)

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--- Comment #5 from DeMus  ---
The problems with KMail not being able to send mails using a Gmail account are
as old as January 2007. I found message on the Kubuntu forum from that date.
This means for 11 years already people around the world are having these
problems. Why other e-mail clients can do this and KMail can not? 
Did the KDE developers working on KMail (Kontact) ever discussed the matter
with Google to come to a solution? If not, why not and isn't it time to do so?

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--- Comment #4 from DeMus  ---
(In reply to DeMus from comment #3)
> Same here. I have 1 POP and 1 IMAP account in KMail but sending from both
> accounts is not possible. Mail just stays in the outbox folder.
> I also setup the 2-step verification (at the moment just for the IMAP
> account) but doesn't make a difference. I was hoping through more security
> it would work, but no. I can not send mails at all now.

Forgot to mention:
I'm using Manjaro Linux 17.1.6 Hakoila - Testing, with Plasmashell 5.12.2,
Kontact 5.7.2

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--- Comment #3 from DeMus  ---
Same here. I have 1 POP and 1 IMAP account in KMail but sending from both
accounts is not possible. Mail just stays in the outbox folder.
I also setup the 2-step verification (at the moment just for the IMAP account)
but doesn't make a difference. I was hoping through more security it would
work, but no. I can not send mails at all now.

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--- Comment #2 from Tom Kijas  ---
It's because two-factor authenticator is in use. WORKAROUND is to generate
app-specific password. Why? Why cannot it use the same way to login as IMAP?

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--- Comment #1 from Tom Kijas  ---
UFW is set-up to let the proper ports opened and of course can be disabled -
without difference.

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