[kmail2] [Bug 81778] KMail should not always reply to mailing lists by default

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[kmail2] [Bug 81778] KMail should not always reply to mailing lists by default

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[kmail2] [Bug 81778] KMail should not always reply to mailing lists by default

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gjditchfi...@acm.org changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Resolution|--- |WAITINGFORINFO
 Status|CONFIRMED   |NEEDSINFO

--- Comment #17 from gjditchfi...@acm.org ---
Correction:  the message in attachment "List-Post and Reply-To" has a
"Mail-followup-to" header, and KMail 5.7.3 sets the "To" address to that, as it
should.

As far as I can tell, KMail no longer has this bug. Does anyone know of a case
where replies to lists are handled incorrectly?

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--- Comment #16 from gjditchfi...@acm.org ---
I attached two messages for test cases, one that fails and one that passes.

"List-Post and Reply-To" contains a List-Post header with a mailing list
address and a Reply-To header with a different address.  That is the test case
that Denis Kurz needed in comment 13.  Using Kmail 5.7.3, when I select that
message and press the "Reply" button, the reply's To address is set to the
reply-to address, not the list's address, so this bug is fixed for that case.

The attachment "List-Post and no Reply-To" matches the original problem
reported by Peter, 15 years ago.  It contains a List-Post header with a mailing
list address, a Sender header with a different address, a From header with a
third address, and no Reply-To header.  When I reply to it, the reply's To
addresses are set to the original To and CC addresses, not the From address! 
This behavior is different from the original report, but it is still incorrect.

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--- Comment #15 from gjditchfi...@acm.org ---
Created attachment 121459
  --> https://bugs.kde.org/attachment.cgi?id=121459=edit
List-Post and Reply-To

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--- Comment #14 from gjditchfi...@acm.org ---
Created attachment 121458
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List-Post and no Reply-To

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[kmail2] [Bug 81778] KMail should not always reply to mailing lists by default

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Version|unspecified |5.4.0
 Resolution|WAITINGFORINFO  |---
 Status|NEEDSINFO   |CONFIRMED

--- Comment #13 from Denis Kurz  ---
I can only find mailing list messages where the reply-to field is set to the
mailinglist address, so I cannot test this myself. Doesn't matter, though,
since you obviously know what you're talking about. I set it to confirmed.

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[kmail2] [Bug 81778] KMail should not always reply to mailing lists by default

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--- Comment #12 from silentz0r  ---
(In reply to Denis Kurz from comment #11)
> I'm sorry, my question was ambiguous. What I meant was: does a reasonably
> recent version of KMail still misbehave in this regard? What version did you
> experience this with?

Yes, it's still a thing in 5.4.1 which is only a few weeks/month old I believe.

To reproduce: go to an email that's sent from a mailing list and press the
default "R" key to reply, and you'll notice that the "From" field is populated
by the mailing list instead of the person who sent it ("A" which stands for
Reply All also does the exact same thing). The original email's Reply-To header
is set properly to the specific person's email address, so this is definitely a
KMail issue. At the moment you can achieve this by pressing "Shift+A" which is
bound as "Reply to Author". The argument of this ticket is that Reply action
means reply to sender, and there's a very specific header for that action
called (Reply-To).

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--- Comment #11 from Denis Kurz  ---
I'm sorry, my question was ambiguous. What I meant was: does a reasonably
recent version of KMail still misbehave in this regard? What version did you
experience this with?

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--- Comment #10 from silentz0r  ---
(In reply to silentz0r from comment #9)
> (In reply to Denis Kurz from comment #8)
> > Is this still a thing? No commenter mentioned the KMail version she
> > experienced this with. In particular, is the bug still valid for version 5.0
> > or later (a.k.a. 15.08.0 or later)?
> > 
> > I also migrated the bug to the kmail2 tracker. I sure hope that in 2016,
> > noone still used kmail(1).
> 
> This is still a thing. As Phil Schaf mentioned mailing lists have the
> "Reply-To" header which should be used instead of the "From" header when
> replying on mailing lists.

To make this response clearer, Reply and Reply-All are two different actions.
Reply should reply to the person who sent the email (found in Reply-To header),
whereas Reply-All should reply to the mailing list.

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--- Comment #9 from silentz0r  ---
(In reply to Denis Kurz from comment #8)
> Is this still a thing? No commenter mentioned the KMail version she
> experienced this with. In particular, is the bug still valid for version 5.0
> or later (a.k.a. 15.08.0 or later)?
> 
> I also migrated the bug to the kmail2 tracker. I sure hope that in 2016,
> noone still used kmail(1).

This is still a thing. As Phil Schaf mentioned mailing lists have the
"Reply-To" header which should be used instead of the "From" header when
replying on mailing lists.

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[kmail2] [Bug 81778] KMail should not always reply to mailing lists by default

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--- Comment #8 from Denis Kurz  ---
Is this still a thing? No commenter mentioned the KMail version she experienced
this with. In particular, is the bug still valid for version 5.0 or later
(a.k.a. 15.08.0 or later)?

I also migrated the bug to the kmail2 tracker. I sure hope that in 2016, noone
still used kmail(1).

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