Re: ext4 file system corruption -> https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=201685

2018-12-05 Thread Reindl Harald

Am 05.12.18 um 00:23 schrieb Laura Abbott:
> On 12/3/18 8:46 AM, Reindl Harald wrote:
>>
>> Am 03.12.18 um 17:42 schrieb Laura Abbott:
>>> On 12/2/18 6:20 AM, Reindl Harald wrote:
 how does Fedora think to handle
 https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=201685

 4.18.20 is the last 4.18.x and happily at least 4.18.20 from F27 runs
 fine on F28 systems but given that bug upgrade to 4.19.x seems to be
 just a lottery with your data - on some or even many systems all seems
 to be fine BUT when you are affected and nobody until now knows the
 root
 cause

 honestly the rebase to 4.19 was too fast to start with!
 WHY did that rebase happen at all?

 kernel-4.19.2-200.fc28 jcline 2018-11-15 01:34:18
 bug reported: 2018-11-13 19:42:20 UTC

 and yes i had that bugreport in my inbox just because i have subscribed
 to filesystem / raid related mailing lists and the word "crazy"
 appeared
 in my mind when i saw the rebase two days later because i expect that
 downstream maintainers at least have the same lists subscribed ordinary
 users have
>>>
>>> We're working with the upstream maintainers to narrow down the problem.
>>> At least on Fedora we haven't seen any reports of corruption reported
>>> on our bugzilla which is a useful data point for the upstream
>>> maintainers.
>>> We'll keep you updated if we find anything.
>>
>> here you have the first Fedora user upstream
>> https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=201685#c198
> 
> There's now a fix proposed upstream
> https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=201685#c255

sounds so

but i still call it a mistake doing the rebase two days after the
problem was reported instead update F28 with 4.18.20 as well as upstream
should have removed the "EOL" from 4.18.20 and continue security updates
until a confirmed 4.19.x is out
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Re: ext4 file system corruption -> https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=201685

2018-12-04 Thread Laura Abbott

On 12/3/18 8:46 AM, Reindl Harald wrote:


Am 03.12.18 um 17:42 schrieb Laura Abbott:

On 12/2/18 6:20 AM, Reindl Harald wrote:

how does Fedora think to handle
https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=201685

4.18.20 is the last 4.18.x and happily at least 4.18.20 from F27 runs
fine on F28 systems but given that bug upgrade to 4.19.x seems to be
just a lottery with your data - on some or even many systems all seems
to be fine BUT when you are affected and nobody until now knows the root
cause

honestly the rebase to 4.19 was too fast to start with!
WHY did that rebase happen at all?

kernel-4.19.2-200.fc28 jcline 2018-11-15 01:34:18
bug reported: 2018-11-13 19:42:20 UTC

and yes i had that bugreport in my inbox just because i have subscribed
to filesystem / raid related mailing lists and the word "crazy" appeared
in my mind when i saw the rebase two days later because i expect that
downstream maintainers at least have the same lists subscribed ordinary
users have


We're working with the upstream maintainers to narrow down the problem.
At least on Fedora we haven't seen any reports of corruption reported
on our bugzilla which is a useful data point for the upstream maintainers.
We'll keep you updated if we find anything.


here you have the first Fedora user upstream
https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=201685#c198


There's now a fix proposed upstream
https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=201685#c255

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Re: ext4 file system corruption -> https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=201685

2018-12-03 Thread stan
On Mon, 3 Dec 2018 08:42:15 -0800
Laura Abbott  wrote:

> On 12/2/18 6:20 AM, Reindl Harald wrote:
> > how does Fedora think to handle
> > https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=201685
> > 
> > 4.18.20 is the last 4.18.x and happily at least 4.18.20 from F27
> > runs fine on F28 systems but given that bug upgrade to 4.19.x seems
> > to be just a lottery with your data - on some or even many systems
> > all seems to be fine BUT when you are affected and nobody until now
> > knows the root cause
> > 
> > honestly the rebase to 4.19 was too fast to start with!
> > WHY did that rebase happen at all?
> > 
> > kernel-4.19.2-200.fc28  jcline  2018-11-15 01:34:18
> > bug reported: 2018-11-13 19:42:20 UTC
> > 
> > and yes i had that bugreport in my inbox just because i have
> > subscribed to filesystem / raid related mailing lists and the word
> > "crazy" appeared in my mind when i saw the rebase two days later
> > because i expect that downstream maintainers at least have the same
> > lists subscribed ordinary users have  
> 
> We're working with the upstream maintainers to narrow down the
> problem. At least on Fedora we haven't seen any reports of corruption
> reported on our bugzilla which is a useful data point for the
> upstream maintainers. We'll keep you updated if we find anything.

I've been running the 4.19 test kernels, and now the release kernels,
without any problem on F28.  I do compile them locally, and skip
anything that doesn't apply to my system, so that could be why.  All
ext4.

That ticket has reports from all over the spectrum.  Hard to narrow
down a cause, or maybe causes if the error is affecting several kernel
subsystems.
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Re: ext4 file system corruption -> https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=201685

2018-12-03 Thread Reindl Harald

Am 03.12.18 um 17:42 schrieb Laura Abbott:
> On 12/2/18 6:20 AM, Reindl Harald wrote:
>> how does Fedora think to handle
>> https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=201685
>>
>> 4.18.20 is the last 4.18.x and happily at least 4.18.20 from F27 runs
>> fine on F28 systems but given that bug upgrade to 4.19.x seems to be
>> just a lottery with your data - on some or even many systems all seems
>> to be fine BUT when you are affected and nobody until now knows the root
>> cause
>>
>> honestly the rebase to 4.19 was too fast to start with!
>> WHY did that rebase happen at all?
>>
>> kernel-4.19.2-200.fc28 jcline 2018-11-15 01:34:18
>> bug reported: 2018-11-13 19:42:20 UTC
>>
>> and yes i had that bugreport in my inbox just because i have subscribed
>> to filesystem / raid related mailing lists and the word "crazy" appeared
>> in my mind when i saw the rebase two days later because i expect that
>> downstream maintainers at least have the same lists subscribed ordinary
>> users have
> 
> We're working with the upstream maintainers to narrow down the problem.
> At least on Fedora we haven't seen any reports of corruption reported
> on our bugzilla which is a useful data point for the upstream maintainers.
> We'll keep you updated if we find anything.

here you have the first Fedora user upstream
https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=201685#c198
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Re: ext4 file system corruption -> https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=201685

2018-12-03 Thread Laura Abbott

On 12/2/18 6:20 AM, Reindl Harald wrote:

how does Fedora think to handle
https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=201685

4.18.20 is the last 4.18.x and happily at least 4.18.20 from F27 runs
fine on F28 systems but given that bug upgrade to 4.19.x seems to be
just a lottery with your data - on some or even many systems all seems
to be fine BUT when you are affected and nobody until now knows the root
cause

honestly the rebase to 4.19 was too fast to start with!
WHY did that rebase happen at all?

kernel-4.19.2-200.fc28  jcline  2018-11-15 01:34:18
bug reported: 2018-11-13 19:42:20 UTC

and yes i had that bugreport in my inbox just because i have subscribed
to filesystem / raid related mailing lists and the word "crazy" appeared
in my mind when i saw the rebase two days later because i expect that
downstream maintainers at least have the same lists subscribed ordinary
users have


We're working with the upstream maintainers to narrow down the problem.
At least on Fedora we haven't seen any reports of corruption reported
on our bugzilla which is a useful data point for the upstream maintainers.
We'll keep you updated if we find anything.

Thanks,
Laura
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Re: ext4 file system corruption -> https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=201685

2018-12-03 Thread Reindl Harald


Am 03.12.18 um 08:56 schrieb Peter Robinson:
> On Sun, Dec 2, 2018 at 5:04 PM Sérgio Basto  wrote:
>>
>> yeah yestarday my computer don't boot with kernel-4.18.20 , back to  
>> kernel-core-4.18.19-100.fc27.x86_64.
>>
>> Thanks for the tip
>>
>> It might be related with [1] ?
>> "I see that a 4.18.20-100.fc27 is already in koji, and unfortunately 4.18.xx 
>> is now EOL.
>> May I suggest that f27 to get a new 4.18.20 build with the STIBP backport 
>> reverted
>> please?  (Current 4.19.3-rc reverts that already.)"
> 
> Fedora 27 is end of life, the fix to this problem is to upgrade to a
> newer release, or alternatively until you can upgrade you could run a
> newer Fedora 28 kernel on Fedora 27.

you didn't get the problem!
https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=201685

currently one is running F27 kernels on F28 to avoid 4.19.x until it's
clear what is going on and your supposed "run a newwer F28 kernel on
F27" is the exactly opposite
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Re: ext4 file system corruption -> https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=201685

2018-12-02 Thread Peter Robinson
On Sun, Dec 2, 2018 at 5:04 PM Sérgio Basto  wrote:
>
> yeah yestarday my computer don't boot with kernel-4.18.20 , back to  
> kernel-core-4.18.19-100.fc27.x86_64.
>
> Thanks for the tip
>
> It might be related with [1] ?
> "I see that a 4.18.20-100.fc27 is already in koji, and unfortunately 4.18.xx 
> is now EOL.
> May I suggest that f27 to get a new 4.18.20 build with the STIBP backport 
> reverted
> please?  (Current 4.19.3-rc reverts that already.)"

Fedora 27 is end of life, the fix to this problem is to upgrade to a
newer release, or alternatively until you can upgrade you could run a
newer Fedora 28 kernel on Fedora 27.

Peter
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Re: ext4 file system corruption -> https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=201685

2018-12-02 Thread Sérgio Basto
yeah yestarday my computer don't boot with kernel-4.18.20 , after back to
 kernel-core-4.18.19-100.fc27.x86_64, it resume to work perfectly .

Thanks for the tip .

It might be related with [1] ? 
"I see that a 4.18.20-100.fc27 is already in koji, and unfortunately 4.18.xx is 
now EOL.
May I suggest that f27 to get a new 4.18.20 build with the STIBP backport 
reverted
please?  (Current 4.19.3-rc reverts that already.)"

[1] 
https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2018-b68776e5b0#comment-865736

On Sun, 2018-12-02 at 15:20 +0100, Reindl Harald wrote:
> how does Fedora think to handle
> https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=201685
> 
> 4.18.20 is the last 4.18.x and happily at least 4.18.20 from F27 runs
> fine on F28 systems but given that bug upgrade to 4.19.x seems to be
> just a lottery with your data - on some or even many systems all
> seems
> to be fine BUT when you are affected and nobody until now knows the
> root
> cause
> 
> honestly the rebase to 4.19 was too fast to start with!
> WHY did that rebase happen at all?
> 
> kernel-4.19.2-200.fc28jcline  2018-11-15 01:34:18
> bug reported: 2018-11-13 19:42:20 UTC
> 
> and yes i had that bugreport in my inbox just because i have
> subscribed
> to filesystem / raid related mailing lists and the word "crazy"
> appeared
> in my mind when i saw the rebase two days later because i expect that
> downstream maintainers at least have the same lists subscribed
> ordinary
> users have
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Re: ext4 file system corruption -> https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=201685

2018-12-02 Thread Sérgio Basto
yeah yestarday my computer don't boot with kernel-4.18.20 , back to  
kernel-core-4.18.19-100.fc27.x86_64.

Thanks for the tip 

It might be related with [1] ? 
"I see that a 4.18.20-100.fc27 is already in koji, and unfortunately 4.18.xx is 
now EOL.
May I suggest that f27 to get a new 4.18.20 build with the STIBP backport 
reverted
please?  (Current 4.19.3-rc reverts that already.)"

[1] 
https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2018-b68776e5b0#comment-865736

On Sun, 2018-12-02 at 15:20 +0100, Reindl Harald wrote:
> how does Fedora think to handle
> https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=201685
> 
> 4.18.20 is the last 4.18.x and happily at least 4.18.20 from F27 runs
> fine on F28 systems but given that bug upgrade to 4.19.x seems to be
> just a lottery with your data - on some or even many systems all
> seems
> to be fine BUT when you are affected and nobody until now knows the
> root
> cause
> 
> honestly the rebase to 4.19 was too fast to start with!
> WHY did that rebase happen at all?
> 
> kernel-4.19.2-200.fc28jcline  2018-11-15 01:34:18
> bug reported: 2018-11-13 19:42:20 UTC
> 
> and yes i had that bugreport in my inbox just because i have
> subscribed
> to filesystem / raid related mailing lists and the word "crazy"
> appeared
> in my mind when i saw the rebase two days later because i expect that
> downstream maintainers at least have the same lists subscribed
> ordinary
> users have
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ext4 file system corruption -> https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=201685

2018-12-02 Thread Reindl Harald
how does Fedora think to handle
https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=201685

4.18.20 is the last 4.18.x and happily at least 4.18.20 from F27 runs
fine on F28 systems but given that bug upgrade to 4.19.x seems to be
just a lottery with your data - on some or even many systems all seems
to be fine BUT when you are affected and nobody until now knows the root
cause

honestly the rebase to 4.19 was too fast to start with!
WHY did that rebase happen at all?

kernel-4.19.2-200.fc28  jcline  2018-11-15 01:34:18
bug reported: 2018-11-13 19:42:20 UTC

and yes i had that bugreport in my inbox just because i have subscribed
to filesystem / raid related mailing lists and the word "crazy" appeared
in my mind when i saw the rebase two days later because i expect that
downstream maintainers at least have the same lists subscribed ordinary
users have
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