[Kernel-packages] [Bug 1377878] Re: PPC - GUI freezes except for mouse pointer
@Adam sadly, yes. But it now should be clear with the existing workarounds that's not necessary for future releases. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Kernel Packages, which is subscribed to linux in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1377878 Title: PPC - GUI freezes except for mouse pointer Status in The Linux Kernel: Confirmed Status in linux package in Ubuntu: Confirmed Bug description: During the installation the computer freezes completely except for the mouse pointer. And even that is stuck with whatever shape it happened to have at the time it froze. The steps I have to cause the freeze are run Ubiquity to start the installation open a terminal, run Ubuntu-bug and let it launch Firefox. It will freeze every time then. Even the consoles (ctrl-alt-f1 etc) are unavailable. What kind of information can I collect and how? To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/linux/+bug/1377878/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~kernel-packages Post to : kernel-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~kernel-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Kernel-packages] [Bug 1377878] Re: PPC - GUI freezes except for mouse pointer
Thanks Lars, still learning the ropes with this, from Walters response I gathered we could call it, but I'm glad we can work the installer defaults in, makes more sense that way and I expressed as much in my comments above, was just not sure if this should be left open all the way, but yeah makes more sense. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Kernel Packages, which is subscribed to linux in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1377878 Title: PPC - GUI freezes except for mouse pointer Status in “linux” package in Ubuntu: Confirmed Bug description: During the installation the computer freezes completely except for the mouse pointer. And even that is stuck with whatever shape it happened to have at the time it froze. The steps I have to cause the freeze are run Ubiquity to start the installation open a terminal, run Ubuntu-bug and let it launch Firefox. It will freeze every time then. Even the consoles (ctrl-alt-f1 etc) are unavailable. What kind of information can I collect and how? To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1377878/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~kernel-packages Post to : kernel-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~kernel-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Kernel-packages] [Bug 1377878] Re: PPC - GUI freezes except for mouse pointer
Thanks Lars, still learning the ropes with this, from Walters response I gathered we could call it, but I'm glad we can work the installer defaults in, makes more sense that way and I expressed as much on the bug, was just not sure if this should be left open all the way. Am 11.11.2014 05:45 schrieb "Lars Noodén" : > Boris, it's still a bug until the installer adds those boot options and > the installed system ends up with them in yaboot.conf > > ** Changed in: linux (Ubuntu) >Status: Invalid => Confirmed > > -- > You received this bug notification because you are subscribed to the bug > report. > https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1377878 > > Title: > PPC - GUI freezes except for mouse pointer > > Status in “linux” package in Ubuntu: > Confirmed > > Bug description: > During the installation the computer freezes completely except for the > mouse pointer. And even that is stuck with whatever shape it happened > to have at the time it froze. The steps I have to cause the freeze > are run Ubiquity to start the installation open a terminal, run > Ubuntu-bug and let it launch Firefox. It will freeze every time then. > Even the consoles (ctrl-alt-f1 etc) are unavailable. What kind of > information can I collect and how? > > To manage notifications about this bug go to: > https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1377878/+subscriptions > -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Kernel Packages, which is subscribed to linux in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1377878 Title: PPC - GUI freezes except for mouse pointer Status in “linux” package in Ubuntu: Confirmed Bug description: During the installation the computer freezes completely except for the mouse pointer. And even that is stuck with whatever shape it happened to have at the time it froze. The steps I have to cause the freeze are run Ubiquity to start the installation open a terminal, run Ubuntu-bug and let it launch Firefox. It will freeze every time then. Even the consoles (ctrl-alt-f1 etc) are unavailable. What kind of information can I collect and how? To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1377878/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~kernel-packages Post to : kernel-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~kernel-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Kernel-packages] [Bug 1377878] Re: PPC - GUI freezes except for mouse pointer
known ppc radeon 9000-range AGP-freeze issue, needs radeon.agpmode=-1 yaboot param workaround, additionally combination with video=ofonly is recommended ** Changed in: linux (Ubuntu) Status: Confirmed => Invalid -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Kernel Packages, which is subscribed to linux in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1377878 Title: PPC - GUI freezes except for mouse pointer Status in “linux” package in Ubuntu: Invalid Bug description: During the installation the computer freezes completely except for the mouse pointer. And even that is stuck with whatever shape it happened to have at the time it froze. The steps I have to cause the freeze are run Ubiquity to start the installation open a terminal, run Ubuntu-bug and let it launch Firefox. It will freeze every time then. Even the consoles (ctrl-alt-f1 etc) are unavailable. What kind of information can I collect and how? To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1377878/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~kernel-packages Post to : kernel-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~kernel-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Kernel-packages] [Bug 1377878] Re: PPC - GUI freezes except for mouse pointer
I believe this is due to incomplete or not at all set up Xorg conf which for some reason is not done for a long time on certain Radeon systems, so those are without DRI and all the bells and whistles. Did you try what I mentioned above? sudo service lightdm stop sudo Xorg -configure sudo mv xorg.conf.new /etc/X11/xorg.conf sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf [Here some driver options could be set, eg. uncomment pageflip and set it to "True", save any edits and after that reboot] sudo shutdown -r now After a reboot you can check your acceleration with the commands glxinfo and glxgears -info if it works you will notice the gears running well even if quickly moving it's window but likely lubuntu gui will otherwise remain kinda slow but should be better. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Kernel Packages, which is subscribed to linux in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1377878 Title: PPC - GUI freezes except for mouse pointer Status in “linux” package in Ubuntu: Confirmed Bug description: During the installation the computer freezes completely except for the mouse pointer. And even that is stuck with whatever shape it happened to have at the time it froze. The steps I have to cause the freeze are run Ubiquity to start the installation open a terminal, run Ubuntu-bug and let it launch Firefox. It will freeze every time then. Even the consoles (ctrl-alt-f1 etc) are unavailable. What kind of information can I collect and how? To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1377878/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~kernel-packages Post to : kernel-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~kernel-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Kernel-packages] [Bug 1377878] Re: PPC - GUI freezes except for mouse pointer
Thx for the feedback Lars, I think we can call it on the bug Walter, so far nobody else has come forward with anything that suggests otherwise. Where would we propose to implement those params to be set as default for the specific systems in future builds/ releases, would a post to the ppc list be in order and would you do that Walter? -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Kernel Packages, which is subscribed to linux in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1377878 Title: PPC - GUI freezes except for mouse pointer Status in “linux” package in Ubuntu: Confirmed Bug description: During the installation the computer freezes completely except for the mouse pointer. And even that is stuck with whatever shape it happened to have at the time it froze. The steps I have to cause the freeze are run Ubiquity to start the installation open a terminal, run Ubuntu-bug and let it launch Firefox. It will freeze every time then. Even the consoles (ctrl-alt-f1 etc) are unavailable. What kind of information can I collect and how? To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1377878/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~kernel-packages Post to : kernel-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~kernel-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Kernel-packages] [Bug 1377878] Re: PPC - GUI freezes except for mouse pointer
Hi Walter, yep not default for every kind of ppc system, only for those specific G4 ibook's with the radeon 9200 variant, tho eMacs with those would also seems like a save bet-!? Sry I haven't yet gotten around to the FAQ/ Known Issues addition but I plan on spending some time on it tomorrow :) For everyone else reading up on this I figured I should post our conclusion so far here as well: 1. yaboot params don't seem to stick/ carry over from live-boot initiated installations (intentionally?? for many mac users this would probably be unexpected and result in what I'd like to describe as "wtf I already had the correct params set why doesn't it work as expected" and be cause for confusion as the needed workarounds to "make it work" would not be actually used anymore while still assumed to be in use, so likely cause for seemingly "not working out of the box Question: what can be done about that or is pointing to more detailed Information on that and the actual params needed the only available course of action or can those params be set default out of the box on affected system configurations? 2. Radeon 9200/ RV 280 (M9+) chips on the PowerBook6,5 (ibook G4, 12' inch, 1.2 GHz) and also likely similar ibook and eMac Radeon 9000 range of chips for some reason won't work reliable on Radeon-KMS with AGP transfer enabled, so those need "radeon.agpmode=-1" no idea if it's a flaw in the way Apple implemented AGP on these ibooks or in combination with an expectation of the driver on how AGP is supposed to be implemented, or simply some bug, but it won't work at the moment and causes the freeze issue: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1377878 3. using the older framebuffer params in any way on top of things causes conflicts with KMS which even with "radeon.agpmode=-1" set would cause UI/ GUI issues like incomplete loading or nonfuctional UI/ GUI, so we additionally would need "video=ofonly" here and should not try to additionally use any combination of eg. "radeonfb" (which quite a few older workaround instructions might confusingly suggest and result in the user having any variation of params but not only the above 2 he or she would need to make it work) 4. with "video=ofonly radeon.agpmode=-1" those ibooks would boot and be useable prefectly fine BUT there will be "sluggish" feeling 2D/ gui/ windows moving and no accel at all which would be the result of not having Xorg properly configured/ detecting the chip and using the appropriate driver out of the box which also would have to be initiated manually at this point: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video- ati/+bug/1058641 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mesa/+bug/1366556 to fix from a booted Installation: sudo service lightdm stop sudo Xorg -configure sudo mv xorg.conf.new /etc/X11/xorg.conf sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf [Here some driver options could be set, eg. uncomment pageflip and set it to "True", save any edits and after that reboot] sudo shutdown -r now --- Grüße boris -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Kernel Packages, which is subscribed to linux in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1377878 Title: PPC - GUI freezes except for mouse pointer Status in “linux” package in Ubuntu: Confirmed Bug description: During the installation the computer freezes completely except for the mouse pointer. And even that is stuck with whatever shape it happened to have at the time it froze. The steps I have to cause the freeze are run Ubiquity to start the installation open a terminal, run Ubuntu-bug and let it launch Firefox. It will freeze every time then. Even the consoles (ctrl-alt-f1 etc) are unavailable. What kind of information can I collect and how? To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1377878/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~kernel-packages Post to : kernel-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~kernel-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Kernel-packages] [Bug 1377878] Re: PPC - GUI freezes except for mouse pointer
"System was installed using Boris/Adam's "agpmode=-1"that worked to clean up the 14.10 GUI . . . and I've tried various flavors of "radeonfb" boot parameters . . . " - don't! My understanding was using "radeonfb" conflicts with KMS which we want to use nowadays, so try to leave it out and instead use only "video=ofonly radeon.agpmode=-1" "Yesterday I ran "sudo Xorg -configure" . . . and generated an xorg.conf file . . . it does show "radeon" as the driver, along with a bunch of other stuff . . . rebooted . . . no difference." - Did you move it to it's right place via "sudo mv xorg.conf.new /etc/X11/xorg.conf" -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Kernel Packages, which is subscribed to linux in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1377878 Title: PPC - GUI freezes except for mouse pointer Status in “linux” package in Ubuntu: Confirmed Bug description: During the installation the computer freezes completely except for the mouse pointer. And even that is stuck with whatever shape it happened to have at the time it froze. The steps I have to cause the freeze are run Ubiquity to start the installation open a terminal, run Ubuntu-bug and let it launch Firefox. It will freeze every time then. Even the consoles (ctrl-alt-f1 etc) are unavailable. What kind of information can I collect and how? To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1377878/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~kernel-packages Post to : kernel-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~kernel-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Kernel-packages] [Bug 1377878] Re: PPC - GUI freezes except for mouse pointer
so I quess the question might be what changed, did AGP work before, was there no hardware acceleration, was PCI transfer maybe temporarily forced? -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Kernel Packages, which is subscribed to linux in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1377878 Title: PPC - GUI freezes except for mouse pointer Status in “linux” package in Ubuntu: Confirmed Bug description: During the installation the computer freezes completely except for the mouse pointer. And even that is stuck with whatever shape it happened to have at the time it froze. The steps I have to cause the freeze are run Ubiquity to start the installation open a terminal, run Ubuntu-bug and let it launch Firefox. It will freeze every time then. Even the consoles (ctrl-alt-f1 etc) are unavailable. What kind of information can I collect and how? To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1377878/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~kernel-packages Post to : kernel-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~kernel-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Kernel-packages] [Bug 1377878] Re: PPC - GUI freezes except for mouse pointer
Hello all, @Walter I did encounter this in 14.04.1 as well it works if I force PCI mode via yaboot radeon.agpmode=-1 (which I thought was the expected workaround for an unknown issue with AGP and the user would be expected to use it) While on my system with a 9200 based chip under OSX it's listed as AGP 4x I vaguely remember Apple once only listing a similar chip as AGP supported without them actually having it implemented that way (if that would make sense? but I think it was with the even older Rage 128 series if I recall correctly) -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Kernel Packages, which is subscribed to linux in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1377878 Title: PPC - GUI freezes except for mouse pointer Status in “linux” package in Ubuntu: Confirmed Bug description: During the installation the computer freezes completely except for the mouse pointer. And even that is stuck with whatever shape it happened to have at the time it froze. The steps I have to cause the freeze are run Ubiquity to start the installation open a terminal, run Ubuntu-bug and let it launch Firefox. It will freeze every time then. Even the consoles (ctrl-alt-f1 etc) are unavailable. What kind of information can I collect and how? To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1377878/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~kernel-packages Post to : kernel-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~kernel-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
