[Kernel-packages] [Bug 955287] Re: Ubuntu should handle hot CPUs by taking preemptive action and warning users
thermald is the defacto solution to this in Trusty+, I've added a Wikipage to describe how to install and configure this daemon: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/PowerManagement/ThermalIssues I think this addresses the bug, so I'm going to close it. ** Changed in: linux (Ubuntu) Status: Incomplete = Fix Released -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Kernel Packages, which is subscribed to linux in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/955287 Title: Ubuntu should handle hot CPUs by taking preemptive action and warning users Status in “linux” package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Bug description: If the kernel detects your CPU(s) is/are too hot currently (see bug 751689), the kernel calls /sbin/poweroff. This will provide a graceful system shutdown. If /sbin/poweroff fails, the kernel just forcibly shuts the system down. However, both strategies are last resorts and are called when the system temperature has reached a critical level. However, the kernel seems to emit an ACPI event when it detects the CPU(s) are merely hot. I suggest we consider adding an acpi hook to attempt to avoid a critical scenario. Currently, the user experience when critical gets hit is not good - the system just shuts down with no warning whatsoever. This is alarming in the extreme to users. Ideas: - proactively attempt to kill off power hogging processes (use powertop?) - ramp fans to maximum and present the user with a warning window explaining what is happening. - present the user with a window of high-power processes and ask *them* to select the processes they'd like to kill off in an effort to avoid a system shutdown. Problems: - it is unclear (to me atleast) how close (in terms of degrees centigrade) hot and critical are (is it different for all CPUs ?) As such, it is unclear how long (time) it might take for a system that is hot to go critical and just shutdown. ProblemType: Bug DistroRelease: Ubuntu 12.04 Package: acpi-support 0.140 ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 3.2.0-18.29-generic-pae 3.2.9 Uname: Linux 3.2.0-18-generic-pae i686 NonfreeKernelModules: nvidia ApportVersion: 1.94.1-0ubuntu2 Architecture: i386 Date: Wed Mar 14 17:22:09 2012 InstallationMedia: Ubuntu 10.10 Maverick Meerkat - Release i386 (20101007) ProcEnviron: TERM=xterm PATH=(custom, user) LANG=fr_CA.UTF8 SHELL=/bin/bash SourcePackage: acpi-support UpgradeStatus: Upgraded to precise on 2012-01-12 (62 days ago) --- AlsaVersion: Advanced Linux Sound Architecture Driver Version 1.0.24. ApportVersion: 1.94.1-0ubuntu2 Architecture: i386 ArecordDevices: List of CAPTURE Hardware Devices card 0: Intel [HDA Intel], device 0: CONEXANT Analog [CONEXANT Analog] Subdevices: 1/1 Subdevice #0: subdevice #0 AudioDevicesInUse: USERPID ACCESS COMMAND /dev/snd/controlC1: james 3788 F pulseaudio /dev/snd/controlC0: james 3788 F pulseaudio james 10267 F alsamixer Card0.Amixer.info: Card hw:0 'Intel'/'HDA Intel at 0xf242 irq 45' Mixer name : 'Conexant CX20585' Components : 'HDA:14f15069,17aa214c,00100302 HDA:14f12c06,17aa2122,0010' Controls : 9 Simple ctrls : 6 Card1.Amixer.info: Card hw:1 'NVidia'/'HDA NVidia at 0xcdefc000 irq 16' Mixer name : 'Nvidia GPU 0b HDMI/DP' Components : 'HDA:10de000b,10de0101,00100100' Controls : 24 Simple ctrls : 4 Card29.Amixer.info: Card hw:29 'ThinkPadEC'/'ThinkPad Console Audio Control at EC reg 0x30, fw 6IHT37WW-1.12' Mixer name : 'ThinkPad EC 6IHT37WW-1.12' Components : '' Controls : 1 Simple ctrls : 1 Card29.Amixer.values: Simple mixer control 'Console',0 Capabilities: pswitch pswitch-joined penum Playback channels: Mono Mono: Playback [on] DistroRelease: Ubuntu 12.04 HibernationDevice: RESUME=UUID=67e3cd44-242b-4bbf-918b-28fff81e0312 InstallationMedia: Ubuntu 10.10 Maverick Meerkat - Release i386 (20101007) MachineType: LENOVO 2516CTO NonfreeKernelModules: nvidia Package: linux (not installed) ProcEnviron: TERM=xterm PATH=(custom, user) LANG=fr_CA.UTF8 SHELL=/bin/bash ProcFB: 0 VESA VGA ProcKernelCmdLine: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-3.2.0-18-generic-pae root=UUID=7ad192e9-7b26-49d1-8e1c-fefc7dc495cb ro acpi_sleep=nonvs console=ttyUSB0,115200n8r console=tty quiet splash vt.handoff=7 ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 3.2.0-18.29-generic-pae 3.2.9 RelatedPackageVersions: linux-restricted-modules-3.2.0-18-generic-pae N/A linux-backports-modules-3.2.0-18-generic-pae N/A linux-firmware1.71 StagingDrivers: mei Tags: precise staging Uname: Linux 3.2.0-18-generic-pae i686 UpgradeStatus: Upgraded to precise on 2012-01-12 (62 days ago) UserGroups: adm admin cdrom dialout libvirtd lpadmin plugdev sambashare sbuild
[Kernel-packages] [Bug 955287] Re: Ubuntu should handle hot CPUs by taking preemptive action and warning users
Hi Colin - thanks, yes running thermald has improved the situation immensely! I do still very occasionally see overheats, although they are extremely rare now and I suspect may be more related to my fans needing a clean :-) -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Kernel Packages, which is subscribed to linux in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/955287 Title: Ubuntu should handle hot CPUs by taking preemptive action and warning users Status in “linux” package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Bug description: If the kernel detects your CPU(s) is/are too hot currently (see bug 751689), the kernel calls /sbin/poweroff. This will provide a graceful system shutdown. If /sbin/poweroff fails, the kernel just forcibly shuts the system down. However, both strategies are last resorts and are called when the system temperature has reached a critical level. However, the kernel seems to emit an ACPI event when it detects the CPU(s) are merely hot. I suggest we consider adding an acpi hook to attempt to avoid a critical scenario. Currently, the user experience when critical gets hit is not good - the system just shuts down with no warning whatsoever. This is alarming in the extreme to users. Ideas: - proactively attempt to kill off power hogging processes (use powertop?) - ramp fans to maximum and present the user with a warning window explaining what is happening. - present the user with a window of high-power processes and ask *them* to select the processes they'd like to kill off in an effort to avoid a system shutdown. Problems: - it is unclear (to me atleast) how close (in terms of degrees centigrade) hot and critical are (is it different for all CPUs ?) As such, it is unclear how long (time) it might take for a system that is hot to go critical and just shutdown. ProblemType: Bug DistroRelease: Ubuntu 12.04 Package: acpi-support 0.140 ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 3.2.0-18.29-generic-pae 3.2.9 Uname: Linux 3.2.0-18-generic-pae i686 NonfreeKernelModules: nvidia ApportVersion: 1.94.1-0ubuntu2 Architecture: i386 Date: Wed Mar 14 17:22:09 2012 InstallationMedia: Ubuntu 10.10 Maverick Meerkat - Release i386 (20101007) ProcEnviron: TERM=xterm PATH=(custom, user) LANG=fr_CA.UTF8 SHELL=/bin/bash SourcePackage: acpi-support UpgradeStatus: Upgraded to precise on 2012-01-12 (62 days ago) --- AlsaVersion: Advanced Linux Sound Architecture Driver Version 1.0.24. ApportVersion: 1.94.1-0ubuntu2 Architecture: i386 ArecordDevices: List of CAPTURE Hardware Devices card 0: Intel [HDA Intel], device 0: CONEXANT Analog [CONEXANT Analog] Subdevices: 1/1 Subdevice #0: subdevice #0 AudioDevicesInUse: USERPID ACCESS COMMAND /dev/snd/controlC1: james 3788 F pulseaudio /dev/snd/controlC0: james 3788 F pulseaudio james 10267 F alsamixer Card0.Amixer.info: Card hw:0 'Intel'/'HDA Intel at 0xf242 irq 45' Mixer name : 'Conexant CX20585' Components : 'HDA:14f15069,17aa214c,00100302 HDA:14f12c06,17aa2122,0010' Controls : 9 Simple ctrls : 6 Card1.Amixer.info: Card hw:1 'NVidia'/'HDA NVidia at 0xcdefc000 irq 16' Mixer name : 'Nvidia GPU 0b HDMI/DP' Components : 'HDA:10de000b,10de0101,00100100' Controls : 24 Simple ctrls : 4 Card29.Amixer.info: Card hw:29 'ThinkPadEC'/'ThinkPad Console Audio Control at EC reg 0x30, fw 6IHT37WW-1.12' Mixer name : 'ThinkPad EC 6IHT37WW-1.12' Components : '' Controls : 1 Simple ctrls : 1 Card29.Amixer.values: Simple mixer control 'Console',0 Capabilities: pswitch pswitch-joined penum Playback channels: Mono Mono: Playback [on] DistroRelease: Ubuntu 12.04 HibernationDevice: RESUME=UUID=67e3cd44-242b-4bbf-918b-28fff81e0312 InstallationMedia: Ubuntu 10.10 Maverick Meerkat - Release i386 (20101007) MachineType: LENOVO 2516CTO NonfreeKernelModules: nvidia Package: linux (not installed) ProcEnviron: TERM=xterm PATH=(custom, user) LANG=fr_CA.UTF8 SHELL=/bin/bash ProcFB: 0 VESA VGA ProcKernelCmdLine: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-3.2.0-18-generic-pae root=UUID=7ad192e9-7b26-49d1-8e1c-fefc7dc495cb ro acpi_sleep=nonvs console=ttyUSB0,115200n8r console=tty quiet splash vt.handoff=7 ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 3.2.0-18.29-generic-pae 3.2.9 RelatedPackageVersions: linux-restricted-modules-3.2.0-18-generic-pae N/A linux-backports-modules-3.2.0-18-generic-pae N/A linux-firmware1.71 StagingDrivers: mei Tags: precise staging Uname: Linux 3.2.0-18-generic-pae i686 UpgradeStatus: Upgraded to precise on 2012-01-12 (62 days ago) UserGroups: adm admin cdrom dialout libvirtd lpadmin plugdev sambashare sbuild dmi.bios.date: 08/27/2010 dmi.bios.vendor: LENOVO dmi.bios.version: 6IET72WW (1.32 )
Re: [Kernel-packages] [Bug 955287] Re: Ubuntu should handle hot CPUs by taking preemptive action and warning users
On 07/03/14 10:23, James Hunt wrote: Hi Colin - thanks, yes running thermald has improved the situation immensely! I do still very occasionally see overheats, although they are extremely rare now and I suspect may be more related to my fans needing a clean :-) One can tweak the default thermald config to start throttling back at a lower temperature if required. So it may need some machine specific modification if it keeps on occurring. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Kernel Packages, which is subscribed to linux in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/955287 Title: Ubuntu should handle hot CPUs by taking preemptive action and warning users Status in “linux” package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Bug description: If the kernel detects your CPU(s) is/are too hot currently (see bug 751689), the kernel calls /sbin/poweroff. This will provide a graceful system shutdown. If /sbin/poweroff fails, the kernel just forcibly shuts the system down. However, both strategies are last resorts and are called when the system temperature has reached a critical level. However, the kernel seems to emit an ACPI event when it detects the CPU(s) are merely hot. I suggest we consider adding an acpi hook to attempt to avoid a critical scenario. Currently, the user experience when critical gets hit is not good - the system just shuts down with no warning whatsoever. This is alarming in the extreme to users. Ideas: - proactively attempt to kill off power hogging processes (use powertop?) - ramp fans to maximum and present the user with a warning window explaining what is happening. - present the user with a window of high-power processes and ask *them* to select the processes they'd like to kill off in an effort to avoid a system shutdown. Problems: - it is unclear (to me atleast) how close (in terms of degrees centigrade) hot and critical are (is it different for all CPUs ?) As such, it is unclear how long (time) it might take for a system that is hot to go critical and just shutdown. ProblemType: Bug DistroRelease: Ubuntu 12.04 Package: acpi-support 0.140 ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 3.2.0-18.29-generic-pae 3.2.9 Uname: Linux 3.2.0-18-generic-pae i686 NonfreeKernelModules: nvidia ApportVersion: 1.94.1-0ubuntu2 Architecture: i386 Date: Wed Mar 14 17:22:09 2012 InstallationMedia: Ubuntu 10.10 Maverick Meerkat - Release i386 (20101007) ProcEnviron: TERM=xterm PATH=(custom, user) LANG=fr_CA.UTF8 SHELL=/bin/bash SourcePackage: acpi-support UpgradeStatus: Upgraded to precise on 2012-01-12 (62 days ago) --- AlsaVersion: Advanced Linux Sound Architecture Driver Version 1.0.24. ApportVersion: 1.94.1-0ubuntu2 Architecture: i386 ArecordDevices: List of CAPTURE Hardware Devices card 0: Intel [HDA Intel], device 0: CONEXANT Analog [CONEXANT Analog] Subdevices: 1/1 Subdevice #0: subdevice #0 AudioDevicesInUse: USERPID ACCESS COMMAND /dev/snd/controlC1: james 3788 F pulseaudio /dev/snd/controlC0: james 3788 F pulseaudio james 10267 F alsamixer Card0.Amixer.info: Card hw:0 'Intel'/'HDA Intel at 0xf242 irq 45' Mixer name : 'Conexant CX20585' Components : 'HDA:14f15069,17aa214c,00100302 HDA:14f12c06,17aa2122,0010' Controls : 9 Simple ctrls : 6 Card1.Amixer.info: Card hw:1 'NVidia'/'HDA NVidia at 0xcdefc000 irq 16' Mixer name : 'Nvidia GPU 0b HDMI/DP' Components : 'HDA:10de000b,10de0101,00100100' Controls : 24 Simple ctrls : 4 Card29.Amixer.info: Card hw:29 'ThinkPadEC'/'ThinkPad Console Audio Control at EC reg 0x30, fw 6IHT37WW-1.12' Mixer name : 'ThinkPad EC 6IHT37WW-1.12' Components : '' Controls : 1 Simple ctrls : 1 Card29.Amixer.values: Simple mixer control 'Console',0 Capabilities: pswitch pswitch-joined penum Playback channels: Mono Mono: Playback [on] DistroRelease: Ubuntu 12.04 HibernationDevice: RESUME=UUID=67e3cd44-242b-4bbf-918b-28fff81e0312 InstallationMedia: Ubuntu 10.10 Maverick Meerkat - Release i386 (20101007) MachineType: LENOVO 2516CTO NonfreeKernelModules: nvidia Package: linux (not installed) ProcEnviron: TERM=xterm PATH=(custom, user) LANG=fr_CA.UTF8 SHELL=/bin/bash ProcFB: 0 VESA VGA ProcKernelCmdLine: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-3.2.0-18-generic-pae root=UUID=7ad192e9-7b26-49d1-8e1c-fefc7dc495cb ro acpi_sleep=nonvs console=ttyUSB0,115200n8r console=tty quiet splash vt.handoff=7 ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 3.2.0-18.29-generic-pae 3.2.9 RelatedPackageVersions: linux-restricted-modules-3.2.0-18-generic-pae N/A linux-backports-modules-3.2.0-18-generic-pae N/A linux-firmware1.71 StagingDrivers: mei Tags: precise staging Uname: Linux 3.2.0-18-generic-pae i686 UpgradeStatus: Upgraded
[Kernel-packages] [Bug 955287] Re: Ubuntu should handle hot CPUs by taking preemptive action and warning users
One can use a thermald helper script to set the CPU Max temperature on your machine. Attached is the script, one has to specify the max temp in milli degrees C, so for 80 degress C, enter 8, example: sudo ./thermald_set_pref.sh [sudo] password for king: thermald preference 0 : DEFAULT 1 : PERFORMANCE 2 : ENERGY_CONSERVE 3 : DISABLED 4 : CALIBRATE 5 : SET USER DEFINED CPU MAX temp 6 : TERMINATE Enter thermald preference [1..6]: 5 Enter valid max temp in mill degree celsius 8 ** Attachment added: thermald management script https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/955287/+attachment/3968543/+files/thermald_set_pref.sh -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Kernel Packages, which is subscribed to linux in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/955287 Title: Ubuntu should handle hot CPUs by taking preemptive action and warning users Status in “linux” package in Ubuntu: Incomplete Bug description: If the kernel detects your CPU(s) is/are too hot currently (see bug 751689), the kernel calls /sbin/poweroff. This will provide a graceful system shutdown. If /sbin/poweroff fails, the kernel just forcibly shuts the system down. However, both strategies are last resorts and are called when the system temperature has reached a critical level. However, the kernel seems to emit an ACPI event when it detects the CPU(s) are merely hot. I suggest we consider adding an acpi hook to attempt to avoid a critical scenario. Currently, the user experience when critical gets hit is not good - the system just shuts down with no warning whatsoever. This is alarming in the extreme to users. Ideas: - proactively attempt to kill off power hogging processes (use powertop?) - ramp fans to maximum and present the user with a warning window explaining what is happening. - present the user with a window of high-power processes and ask *them* to select the processes they'd like to kill off in an effort to avoid a system shutdown. Problems: - it is unclear (to me atleast) how close (in terms of degrees centigrade) hot and critical are (is it different for all CPUs ?) As such, it is unclear how long (time) it might take for a system that is hot to go critical and just shutdown. ProblemType: Bug DistroRelease: Ubuntu 12.04 Package: acpi-support 0.140 ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 3.2.0-18.29-generic-pae 3.2.9 Uname: Linux 3.2.0-18-generic-pae i686 NonfreeKernelModules: nvidia ApportVersion: 1.94.1-0ubuntu2 Architecture: i386 Date: Wed Mar 14 17:22:09 2012 InstallationMedia: Ubuntu 10.10 Maverick Meerkat - Release i386 (20101007) ProcEnviron: TERM=xterm PATH=(custom, user) LANG=fr_CA.UTF8 SHELL=/bin/bash SourcePackage: acpi-support UpgradeStatus: Upgraded to precise on 2012-01-12 (62 days ago) --- AlsaVersion: Advanced Linux Sound Architecture Driver Version 1.0.24. ApportVersion: 1.94.1-0ubuntu2 Architecture: i386 ArecordDevices: List of CAPTURE Hardware Devices card 0: Intel [HDA Intel], device 0: CONEXANT Analog [CONEXANT Analog] Subdevices: 1/1 Subdevice #0: subdevice #0 AudioDevicesInUse: USERPID ACCESS COMMAND /dev/snd/controlC1: james 3788 F pulseaudio /dev/snd/controlC0: james 3788 F pulseaudio james 10267 F alsamixer Card0.Amixer.info: Card hw:0 'Intel'/'HDA Intel at 0xf242 irq 45' Mixer name : 'Conexant CX20585' Components : 'HDA:14f15069,17aa214c,00100302 HDA:14f12c06,17aa2122,0010' Controls : 9 Simple ctrls : 6 Card1.Amixer.info: Card hw:1 'NVidia'/'HDA NVidia at 0xcdefc000 irq 16' Mixer name : 'Nvidia GPU 0b HDMI/DP' Components : 'HDA:10de000b,10de0101,00100100' Controls : 24 Simple ctrls : 4 Card29.Amixer.info: Card hw:29 'ThinkPadEC'/'ThinkPad Console Audio Control at EC reg 0x30, fw 6IHT37WW-1.12' Mixer name : 'ThinkPad EC 6IHT37WW-1.12' Components : '' Controls : 1 Simple ctrls : 1 Card29.Amixer.values: Simple mixer control 'Console',0 Capabilities: pswitch pswitch-joined penum Playback channels: Mono Mono: Playback [on] DistroRelease: Ubuntu 12.04 HibernationDevice: RESUME=UUID=67e3cd44-242b-4bbf-918b-28fff81e0312 InstallationMedia: Ubuntu 10.10 Maverick Meerkat - Release i386 (20101007) MachineType: LENOVO 2516CTO NonfreeKernelModules: nvidia Package: linux (not installed) ProcEnviron: TERM=xterm PATH=(custom, user) LANG=fr_CA.UTF8 SHELL=/bin/bash ProcFB: 0 VESA VGA ProcKernelCmdLine: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-3.2.0-18-generic-pae root=UUID=7ad192e9-7b26-49d1-8e1c-fefc7dc495cb ro acpi_sleep=nonvs console=ttyUSB0,115200n8r console=tty quiet splash vt.handoff=7 ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 3.2.0-18.29-generic-pae 3.2.9 RelatedPackageVersions: linux-restricted-modules-3.2.0-18-generic-pae N/A
[Kernel-packages] [Bug 955287] Re: Ubuntu should handle hot CPUs by taking preemptive action and warning users
Hmm, I'm not sure why you need to unload the thinkpad acpi driver. Can you force fan control mode with options thinkpad_acpi fan_control=1 in a /etc/modprobe.d/ .conf file and this will configure the driver at boot time. I also suggest enabling the intel-pstate driver. Ubuntu currently has a patch to turn this off by default, and it can be enabled by changing /etc/default/grub and set the following: GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT=quiet splash intel_pstate=enable then run: sudo update-grub and reboot. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Kernel Packages, which is subscribed to linux in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/955287 Title: Ubuntu should handle hot CPUs by taking preemptive action and warning users Status in “linux” package in Ubuntu: Incomplete Bug description: If the kernel detects your CPU(s) is/are too hot currently (see bug 751689), the kernel calls /sbin/poweroff. This will provide a graceful system shutdown. If /sbin/poweroff fails, the kernel just forcibly shuts the system down. However, both strategies are last resorts and are called when the system temperature has reached a critical level. However, the kernel seems to emit an ACPI event when it detects the CPU(s) are merely hot. I suggest we consider adding an acpi hook to attempt to avoid a critical scenario. Currently, the user experience when critical gets hit is not good - the system just shuts down with no warning whatsoever. This is alarming in the extreme to users. Ideas: - proactively attempt to kill off power hogging processes (use powertop?) - ramp fans to maximum and present the user with a warning window explaining what is happening. - present the user with a window of high-power processes and ask *them* to select the processes they'd like to kill off in an effort to avoid a system shutdown. Problems: - it is unclear (to me atleast) how close (in terms of degrees centigrade) hot and critical are (is it different for all CPUs ?) As such, it is unclear how long (time) it might take for a system that is hot to go critical and just shutdown. ProblemType: Bug DistroRelease: Ubuntu 12.04 Package: acpi-support 0.140 ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 3.2.0-18.29-generic-pae 3.2.9 Uname: Linux 3.2.0-18-generic-pae i686 NonfreeKernelModules: nvidia ApportVersion: 1.94.1-0ubuntu2 Architecture: i386 Date: Wed Mar 14 17:22:09 2012 InstallationMedia: Ubuntu 10.10 Maverick Meerkat - Release i386 (20101007) ProcEnviron: TERM=xterm PATH=(custom, user) LANG=fr_CA.UTF8 SHELL=/bin/bash SourcePackage: acpi-support UpgradeStatus: Upgraded to precise on 2012-01-12 (62 days ago) --- AlsaVersion: Advanced Linux Sound Architecture Driver Version 1.0.24. ApportVersion: 1.94.1-0ubuntu2 Architecture: i386 ArecordDevices: List of CAPTURE Hardware Devices card 0: Intel [HDA Intel], device 0: CONEXANT Analog [CONEXANT Analog] Subdevices: 1/1 Subdevice #0: subdevice #0 AudioDevicesInUse: USERPID ACCESS COMMAND /dev/snd/controlC1: james 3788 F pulseaudio /dev/snd/controlC0: james 3788 F pulseaudio james 10267 F alsamixer Card0.Amixer.info: Card hw:0 'Intel'/'HDA Intel at 0xf242 irq 45' Mixer name : 'Conexant CX20585' Components : 'HDA:14f15069,17aa214c,00100302 HDA:14f12c06,17aa2122,0010' Controls : 9 Simple ctrls : 6 Card1.Amixer.info: Card hw:1 'NVidia'/'HDA NVidia at 0xcdefc000 irq 16' Mixer name : 'Nvidia GPU 0b HDMI/DP' Components : 'HDA:10de000b,10de0101,00100100' Controls : 24 Simple ctrls : 4 Card29.Amixer.info: Card hw:29 'ThinkPadEC'/'ThinkPad Console Audio Control at EC reg 0x30, fw 6IHT37WW-1.12' Mixer name : 'ThinkPad EC 6IHT37WW-1.12' Components : '' Controls : 1 Simple ctrls : 1 Card29.Amixer.values: Simple mixer control 'Console',0 Capabilities: pswitch pswitch-joined penum Playback channels: Mono Mono: Playback [on] DistroRelease: Ubuntu 12.04 HibernationDevice: RESUME=UUID=67e3cd44-242b-4bbf-918b-28fff81e0312 InstallationMedia: Ubuntu 10.10 Maverick Meerkat - Release i386 (20101007) MachineType: LENOVO 2516CTO NonfreeKernelModules: nvidia Package: linux (not installed) ProcEnviron: TERM=xterm PATH=(custom, user) LANG=fr_CA.UTF8 SHELL=/bin/bash ProcFB: 0 VESA VGA ProcKernelCmdLine: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-3.2.0-18-generic-pae root=UUID=7ad192e9-7b26-49d1-8e1c-fefc7dc495cb ro acpi_sleep=nonvs console=ttyUSB0,115200n8r console=tty quiet splash vt.handoff=7 ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 3.2.0-18.29-generic-pae 3.2.9 RelatedPackageVersions: linux-restricted-modules-3.2.0-18-generic-pae N/A linux-backports-modules-3.2.0-18-generic-pae N/A linux-firmware1.71 StagingDrivers: mei Tags: precise staging
[Kernel-packages] [Bug 955287] Re: Ubuntu should handle hot CPUs by taking preemptive action and warning users
Hi Colin - thanks, I'm now running thermald but cannot really stress my system due to o/s bug 1268906 (kvm always makes it overheat unless fans are disengaged. That is currently not possible on my T410 btw due to bug 1268880 - will that impact thermald's abilities? -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Kernel Packages, which is subscribed to linux in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/955287 Title: Ubuntu should handle hot CPUs by taking preemptive action and warning users Status in “linux” package in Ubuntu: Incomplete Bug description: If the kernel detects your CPU(s) is/are too hot currently (see bug 751689), the kernel calls /sbin/poweroff. This will provide a graceful system shutdown. If /sbin/poweroff fails, the kernel just forcibly shuts the system down. However, both strategies are last resorts and are called when the system temperature has reached a critical level. However, the kernel seems to emit an ACPI event when it detects the CPU(s) are merely hot. I suggest we consider adding an acpi hook to attempt to avoid a critical scenario. Currently, the user experience when critical gets hit is not good - the system just shuts down with no warning whatsoever. This is alarming in the extreme to users. Ideas: - proactively attempt to kill off power hogging processes (use powertop?) - ramp fans to maximum and present the user with a warning window explaining what is happening. - present the user with a window of high-power processes and ask *them* to select the processes they'd like to kill off in an effort to avoid a system shutdown. Problems: - it is unclear (to me atleast) how close (in terms of degrees centigrade) hot and critical are (is it different for all CPUs ?) As such, it is unclear how long (time) it might take for a system that is hot to go critical and just shutdown. ProblemType: Bug DistroRelease: Ubuntu 12.04 Package: acpi-support 0.140 ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 3.2.0-18.29-generic-pae 3.2.9 Uname: Linux 3.2.0-18-generic-pae i686 NonfreeKernelModules: nvidia ApportVersion: 1.94.1-0ubuntu2 Architecture: i386 Date: Wed Mar 14 17:22:09 2012 InstallationMedia: Ubuntu 10.10 Maverick Meerkat - Release i386 (20101007) ProcEnviron: TERM=xterm PATH=(custom, user) LANG=fr_CA.UTF8 SHELL=/bin/bash SourcePackage: acpi-support UpgradeStatus: Upgraded to precise on 2012-01-12 (62 days ago) --- AlsaVersion: Advanced Linux Sound Architecture Driver Version 1.0.24. ApportVersion: 1.94.1-0ubuntu2 Architecture: i386 ArecordDevices: List of CAPTURE Hardware Devices card 0: Intel [HDA Intel], device 0: CONEXANT Analog [CONEXANT Analog] Subdevices: 1/1 Subdevice #0: subdevice #0 AudioDevicesInUse: USERPID ACCESS COMMAND /dev/snd/controlC1: james 3788 F pulseaudio /dev/snd/controlC0: james 3788 F pulseaudio james 10267 F alsamixer Card0.Amixer.info: Card hw:0 'Intel'/'HDA Intel at 0xf242 irq 45' Mixer name : 'Conexant CX20585' Components : 'HDA:14f15069,17aa214c,00100302 HDA:14f12c06,17aa2122,0010' Controls : 9 Simple ctrls : 6 Card1.Amixer.info: Card hw:1 'NVidia'/'HDA NVidia at 0xcdefc000 irq 16' Mixer name : 'Nvidia GPU 0b HDMI/DP' Components : 'HDA:10de000b,10de0101,00100100' Controls : 24 Simple ctrls : 4 Card29.Amixer.info: Card hw:29 'ThinkPadEC'/'ThinkPad Console Audio Control at EC reg 0x30, fw 6IHT37WW-1.12' Mixer name : 'ThinkPad EC 6IHT37WW-1.12' Components : '' Controls : 1 Simple ctrls : 1 Card29.Amixer.values: Simple mixer control 'Console',0 Capabilities: pswitch pswitch-joined penum Playback channels: Mono Mono: Playback [on] DistroRelease: Ubuntu 12.04 HibernationDevice: RESUME=UUID=67e3cd44-242b-4bbf-918b-28fff81e0312 InstallationMedia: Ubuntu 10.10 Maverick Meerkat - Release i386 (20101007) MachineType: LENOVO 2516CTO NonfreeKernelModules: nvidia Package: linux (not installed) ProcEnviron: TERM=xterm PATH=(custom, user) LANG=fr_CA.UTF8 SHELL=/bin/bash ProcFB: 0 VESA VGA ProcKernelCmdLine: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-3.2.0-18-generic-pae root=UUID=7ad192e9-7b26-49d1-8e1c-fefc7dc495cb ro acpi_sleep=nonvs console=ttyUSB0,115200n8r console=tty quiet splash vt.handoff=7 ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 3.2.0-18.29-generic-pae 3.2.9 RelatedPackageVersions: linux-restricted-modules-3.2.0-18-generic-pae N/A linux-backports-modules-3.2.0-18-generic-pae N/A linux-firmware1.71 StagingDrivers: mei Tags: precise staging Uname: Linux 3.2.0-18-generic-pae i686 UpgradeStatus: Upgraded to precise on 2012-01-12 (62 days ago) UserGroups: adm admin cdrom dialout libvirtd lpadmin plugdev sambashare sbuild dmi.bios.date: 08/27/2010 dmi.bios.vendor: LENOVO
[Kernel-packages] [Bug 955287] Re: Ubuntu should handle hot CPUs by taking preemptive action and warning users
@James, I've now packaged up thermald for Trusty, which will do auto throttling if the CPU is too hot. Perhaps you can give that a spin. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Kernel Packages, which is subscribed to linux in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/955287 Title: Ubuntu should handle hot CPUs by taking preemptive action and warning users Status in “linux” package in Ubuntu: Incomplete Bug description: If the kernel detects your CPU(s) is/are too hot currently (see bug 751689), the kernel calls /sbin/poweroff. This will provide a graceful system shutdown. If /sbin/poweroff fails, the kernel just forcibly shuts the system down. However, both strategies are last resorts and are called when the system temperature has reached a critical level. However, the kernel seems to emit an ACPI event when it detects the CPU(s) are merely hot. I suggest we consider adding an acpi hook to attempt to avoid a critical scenario. Currently, the user experience when critical gets hit is not good - the system just shuts down with no warning whatsoever. This is alarming in the extreme to users. Ideas: - proactively attempt to kill off power hogging processes (use powertop?) - ramp fans to maximum and present the user with a warning window explaining what is happening. - present the user with a window of high-power processes and ask *them* to select the processes they'd like to kill off in an effort to avoid a system shutdown. Problems: - it is unclear (to me atleast) how close (in terms of degrees centigrade) hot and critical are (is it different for all CPUs ?) As such, it is unclear how long (time) it might take for a system that is hot to go critical and just shutdown. ProblemType: Bug DistroRelease: Ubuntu 12.04 Package: acpi-support 0.140 ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 3.2.0-18.29-generic-pae 3.2.9 Uname: Linux 3.2.0-18-generic-pae i686 NonfreeKernelModules: nvidia ApportVersion: 1.94.1-0ubuntu2 Architecture: i386 Date: Wed Mar 14 17:22:09 2012 InstallationMedia: Ubuntu 10.10 Maverick Meerkat - Release i386 (20101007) ProcEnviron: TERM=xterm PATH=(custom, user) LANG=fr_CA.UTF8 SHELL=/bin/bash SourcePackage: acpi-support UpgradeStatus: Upgraded to precise on 2012-01-12 (62 days ago) --- AlsaVersion: Advanced Linux Sound Architecture Driver Version 1.0.24. ApportVersion: 1.94.1-0ubuntu2 Architecture: i386 ArecordDevices: List of CAPTURE Hardware Devices card 0: Intel [HDA Intel], device 0: CONEXANT Analog [CONEXANT Analog] Subdevices: 1/1 Subdevice #0: subdevice #0 AudioDevicesInUse: USERPID ACCESS COMMAND /dev/snd/controlC1: james 3788 F pulseaudio /dev/snd/controlC0: james 3788 F pulseaudio james 10267 F alsamixer Card0.Amixer.info: Card hw:0 'Intel'/'HDA Intel at 0xf242 irq 45' Mixer name : 'Conexant CX20585' Components : 'HDA:14f15069,17aa214c,00100302 HDA:14f12c06,17aa2122,0010' Controls : 9 Simple ctrls : 6 Card1.Amixer.info: Card hw:1 'NVidia'/'HDA NVidia at 0xcdefc000 irq 16' Mixer name : 'Nvidia GPU 0b HDMI/DP' Components : 'HDA:10de000b,10de0101,00100100' Controls : 24 Simple ctrls : 4 Card29.Amixer.info: Card hw:29 'ThinkPadEC'/'ThinkPad Console Audio Control at EC reg 0x30, fw 6IHT37WW-1.12' Mixer name : 'ThinkPad EC 6IHT37WW-1.12' Components : '' Controls : 1 Simple ctrls : 1 Card29.Amixer.values: Simple mixer control 'Console',0 Capabilities: pswitch pswitch-joined penum Playback channels: Mono Mono: Playback [on] DistroRelease: Ubuntu 12.04 HibernationDevice: RESUME=UUID=67e3cd44-242b-4bbf-918b-28fff81e0312 InstallationMedia: Ubuntu 10.10 Maverick Meerkat - Release i386 (20101007) MachineType: LENOVO 2516CTO NonfreeKernelModules: nvidia Package: linux (not installed) ProcEnviron: TERM=xterm PATH=(custom, user) LANG=fr_CA.UTF8 SHELL=/bin/bash ProcFB: 0 VESA VGA ProcKernelCmdLine: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-3.2.0-18-generic-pae root=UUID=7ad192e9-7b26-49d1-8e1c-fefc7dc495cb ro acpi_sleep=nonvs console=ttyUSB0,115200n8r console=tty quiet splash vt.handoff=7 ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 3.2.0-18.29-generic-pae 3.2.9 RelatedPackageVersions: linux-restricted-modules-3.2.0-18-generic-pae N/A linux-backports-modules-3.2.0-18-generic-pae N/A linux-firmware1.71 StagingDrivers: mei Tags: precise staging Uname: Linux 3.2.0-18-generic-pae i686 UpgradeStatus: Upgraded to precise on 2012-01-12 (62 days ago) UserGroups: adm admin cdrom dialout libvirtd lpadmin plugdev sambashare sbuild dmi.bios.date: 08/27/2010 dmi.bios.vendor: LENOVO dmi.bios.version: 6IET72WW (1.32 ) dmi.board.name: 2516CTO dmi.board.vendor: LENOVO dmi.board.version: Not Available