RE: hi

2010-11-19 Thread Viral Mehta
let us talk the kernel and not the culturalism..
and also may be what are the ways to go forward to have footer in first mail 
after the subscription explaining or giving some FAQ links.


From: kernelnewbies-bou...@nl.linux.org [kernelnewbies-bou...@nl.linux.org] On 
Behalf Of Mulyadi Santosa [mulyadi.sant...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, November 19, 2010 1:08 PM
To: Vimal
Cc: Kernel Newbies
Subject: Re: hi

On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 12:43, Vimal j.vi...@gmail.com wrote:
 This discussion might be relevant:

  http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1886310

Thanks for sharing the URL :) In that matter, Indonesia (my country)
is also the same... and here, I dare to point my finger, it's due to
high competition but also high laziness among students. They go to CS
but they don't really want to study CS. So, how would that be?

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Re: hi

2010-11-19 Thread John Mahoney
On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 11:39 AM, Viral Mehta
viral.me...@lntinfotech.com wrote:
 let us talk the kernel and not the culturalism..

Kernel Newbies is about culturalism, it is about the open source and
Linux culture.  This is often the first mailing listusers go w ho are
a. potential/current kernel developers(minus the big wigs) or b.
confused Linux users who can not yet differentiate the Linux kernel
and the user space programs running on top of the Linux operating
system.  The word newbie in the title is deceiving because a newbie to
the Linux kernel is often very advanced in computing in general.

In group a there are a few types of people:
1.  College students to lazy to do homework.
2.  People too lazy to sort through the forums for the answer.
3.  People who see Linux as the new cool thing and want to learn it,
but do not even know how to program yet.
4.  Kernel programmers who have been doing this for a while, but are
new to Linux and open source.
5. People who like solving kernel problems, helping others, and
learning new parts of the kernel while helping others.
 6. People promoting their personal consulting ventures and helping
others at the same time(I personally am cool with this group of people
and most of them are very professional about it)
7. etc

Remember sometimes it is obvious how to find the answer in Google if
you know the actual terms to use.

In group b people need to be kindly directed to the proper location
where their question may be more relevant.

 and also may be what are the ways to go forward to have footer in first mail 
 after the subscription explaining or giving some FAQ links.

The following link is very good
http://www.catb.org/esr/faqs/smart-questions.html but the target
audience of this is at people who asks simple questions which Google
returns answer for in first response.  They probably will not read
this whole post it is  a bit verbose.
I think it is still worth linking to, but maybe something else a bit
less complex may be helpful also.

In closing I would just like to remind people when and why they
started using Linux.  I have been programming in Linux for 10+ years
and kernel specific for 5+ years.  I still consider myself ans kernel
Newbie because the kernel is so complex.  Remember everyone was a
newbie once.  I read the book Understanding the Linux kernel 5 times
before i even understood what it was saying.  I hope that as Linux
continues to grow in popularity it will be able to maintain that
community feeling.   This is one of my favorite mailing lists and I
have only been fully active for a year or two, but have been finding
answers here for many years by searching the archives and random
returns from Google searches..  I like this list because it is small
enough that I can read every email and most the people are a little
more friendly than many other lists.  I hope we can keep it that way
and adapt to the increasing popularity of Linux as it becomes more
mainstream.

Thanks to anyone who took the time to read my unexpectedly extended response,
John

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RE: hi

2010-11-18 Thread Viral Mehta
Seems like kernelnewbies is becoming more popular than Google
It looks like some Google Query which showed up in kernel list :D


From: kernelnewbies-bou...@nl.linux.org [kernelnewbies-bou...@nl.linux.org] On 
Behalf Of nidhi mittal hada [nidhimitta...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2010 1:16 PM
To: Robert P. J. Day
Cc: Mulyadi Santosa; navatha reddy; kernelnewbies@nl.linux.org; Manish Katiyar
Subject: Re: hi

is this usb filesystem...
http://tali.admingilde.org/linux-docbook/usb/ch07.html



On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 12:36 PM, Robert P. J. Day
rpj...@crashcourse.ca wrote:
 On Thu, 18 Nov 2010, Mulyadi Santosa wrote:

 On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 13:12, navatha reddy navat...@gmail.com wrote:
  Hi,
   plz send the information about file system.its not supporting the
  usb file system without ext2 and ext3.

 guys, have we ever heard usb filesystem? Or is this Reddy is talking
 about something that we need deep meditation first?

  might be the deprecated USB filesystem:

 http://cateee.net/lkddb/web-lkddb/USB_DEVICEFS.html

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Re: hi

2010-11-18 Thread Carlo Caione

On Nov 18, 2010, at 5:23 PM, Viral Mehta wrote:

 Seems like kernelnewbies is becoming more popular than Google
 It looks like some Google Query which showed up in kernel list :D

+1 :)

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Re: hi

2010-11-18 Thread Anuz Pratap Singh Tomar
On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 6:46 PM, Carlo Caione carlo.cai...@gmail.comwrote:


 On Nov 18, 2010, at 5:23 PM, Viral Mehta wrote:

  Seems like kernelnewbies is becoming more popular than Google
  It looks like some Google Query which showed up in kernel list :D

 +1 :)


I guess as soon as someone subscribes to mailing list, s/he should be sent
with some guidelines, which can prevent this from happening.
good idea would be  if we can make a list of such dos and do-nots.


RE: hi

2010-11-18 Thread Viral Mehta
On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 6:46 PM, Carlo Caione 
carlo.cai...@gmail.commailto:carlo.cai...@gmail.com wrote:
I guess as soon as someone subscribes to mailing list, s/he should be sent 
with some guidelines, which can prevent this from happening.
good idea would be  if we can make a list of such dos and do-nots.


http://kernelnewbies.org/FAQ
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html


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Re: hi

2010-11-18 Thread John Mahoney
On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 1:57 PM, Anuz Pratap Singh Tomar
chambilketha...@gmail.com wrote:



 On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 6:46 PM, Carlo Caione carlo.cai...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 On Nov 18, 2010, at 5:23 PM, Viral Mehta wrote:

  Seems like kernelnewbies is becoming more popular than Google
  It looks like some Google Query which showed up in kernel list :D

 +1 :)


 I guess as soon as someone subscribes to mailing list, s/he should be sent
 with some guidelines, which can prevent this from happening.
 good idea would be  if we can make a list of such dos and do-nots.


I like the idea of subscribers being sent a link to a faq/guidellines
when they join.  Yet, this question to me is just poorly worded and i
do not know what the person is even asking.

I saw it as two possible questions.
1.  If I have a usb thumb drive and I want to mount it on linux what
filesystem should I format it to?
or
2.  how do i mount usbfs?(http://www.linux-usb.org/USB-guide/x173.html)

Maybe a guideline of writing clear  and concise questions would be useful

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RE: hi

2010-11-18 Thread Tayade, Nilesh
From: kernelnewbies-bou...@nl.linux.org 
[mailto:kernelnewbies-bou...@nl.linux.org] On Behalf Of Anuz Pratap 

 On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 6:46 PM, Carlo Caione carlo.cai...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Nov 18, 2010, at 5:23 PM, Viral Mehta wrote:

 Seems like kernelnewbies is becoming more popular than Google
 It looks like some Google Query which showed up in kernel list :D

 +1 :)
 
 I guess as soon as someone subscribes to mailing list, s/he should be sent 
 with some guidelines, which can prevent this from happening. 
 good idea would be  if we can make a list of such dos and do-nots.  

Guess we already have the link describing the common etiquettes.
http://www.tux.org/lkml/#s3 - Partially applicable to our list as well.

Also as Mulyadi pointed out: http://www.catb.org/esr/faqs/smart-questions.html.

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Re: hi

2010-11-18 Thread Anuz Pratap Singh Tomar
On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 7:05 PM, Viral Mehta viral.me...@lntinfotech.comwrote:

  On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 6:46 PM, Carlo Caione carlo.cai...@gmail.comwrote:
   I guess as soon as someone subscribes to mailing list, s/he should be
 sent with some guidelines, which can prevent this from happening.
 good idea would be  if we can make a list of such dos and do-nots.


 http://kernelnewbies.org/FAQ
 http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.htmlhttp://www.catb.org/%7Eesr/faqs/smart-questions.html


I am am member of this community for long enough to know this already. btw,
i sent that very same link previously to some new user asking very generic
question about probe.
but my point is to send this to anyone who joins it.
Besides these FAQs are old and not updated. And there is nothing specific to
what this mailing list should actually address.
This community is generally more accommodative than most mailing list, but
sometime question are not even well thought or searched.

mail subject likes  like

help
probe
hi
just testing

are utter waste, this mailing list generate enough traffic NOW that such
topics are annoying.

Most new users never dig archives, so a lot of question are asked over and
over again.


Re: hi

2010-11-18 Thread Mulyadi Santosa
On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 06:57, Anuz Pratap Singh Tomar
chambilketha...@gmail.com wrote:
 I am am member of this community for long enough to know this already. btw,
 i sent that very same link previously to some new user asking very generic
 question about probe.

I suggest to start simple by putting that Eric S Raymond Asking the
question the smart way URL in each mail footer, together with the
Kernelnewbies FAQ's url too.

And a suggestion, again in the footer, as simple as please search it
first in the archieve would help I think.

Other than that, we could start simply replying like the old days e.g
: RTFM, STFW. Or more economically, like Manish has said take a deep
breath Mulyadithen press Delete.

PS: Now I know why Delete button, at least in my HP laptop, is
positioned in upper rightmost :)


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Re: hi

2010-11-18 Thread Vimal
This discussion might be relevant:

  http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1886310

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Re: hi

2010-11-18 Thread Mulyadi Santosa
On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 12:43, Vimal j.vi...@gmail.com wrote:
 This discussion might be relevant:

  http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1886310

Thanks for sharing the URL :) In that matter, Indonesia (my country)
is also the same... and here, I dare to point my finger, it's due to
high competition but also high laziness among students. They go to CS
but they don't really want to study CS. So, how would that be?

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hi

2010-11-17 Thread navatha reddy
Hi,
  plz send the information about file system.its not supporting the
usb file system without ext2 and ext3.

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Re: hi

2010-11-17 Thread Mulyadi Santosa
On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 13:12, navatha reddy navat...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,
  plz send the information about file system.its not supporting the
 usb file system without ext2 and ext3.

guys, have we ever heard usb filesystem? Or is this Reddy is talking
about something that we need deep meditation first?


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Re: hi

2010-11-17 Thread Manish Katiyar
On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 10:54 PM, Mulyadi Santosa
mulyadi.sant...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 13:12, navatha reddy navat...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,
  plz send the information about file system.its not supporting the
 usb file system without ext2 and ext3.

 guys, have we ever heard usb filesystem? Or is this Reddy is talking
 about something that we need deep meditation first?

Mulyadi,

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Re: hi

2010-11-17 Thread Robert P. J. Day
On Thu, 18 Nov 2010, Mulyadi Santosa wrote:

 On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 13:12, navatha reddy navat...@gmail.com wrote:
  Hi,
   plz send the information about file system.its not supporting the
  usb file system without ext2 and ext3.

 guys, have we ever heard usb filesystem? Or is this Reddy is talking
 about something that we need deep meditation first?

  might be the deprecated USB filesystem:

http://cateee.net/lkddb/web-lkddb/USB_DEVICEFS.html

rday

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Re: hi

2010-11-17 Thread nidhi mittal hada
is this usb filesystem...
http://tali.admingilde.org/linux-docbook/usb/ch07.html



On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 12:36 PM, Robert P. J. Day
rpj...@crashcourse.ca wrote:
 On Thu, 18 Nov 2010, Mulyadi Santosa wrote:

 On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 13:12, navatha reddy navat...@gmail.com wrote:
  Hi,
   plz send the information about file system.its not supporting the
  usb file system without ext2 and ext3.

 guys, have we ever heard usb filesystem? Or is this Reddy is talking
 about something that we need deep meditation first?

  might be the deprecated USB filesystem:

 http://cateee.net/lkddb/web-lkddb/USB_DEVICEFS.html

 rday

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Re: hi -- i was also a newbie once--thanks list.

2010-05-10 Thread Tapas Mishra

 1)Bach
 2)ALP

 3)UTLK
Is for Understanding The Linux Kernel
  4)LDD
Linux Device Drivers

I could not get what is ALP and Bach ?
Do you have any bookmarks pass them on here.

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Re: hi -- i was also a newbie once--thanks list.

2010-05-10 Thread पराग़
Hi,

On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 3:01 PM, Tapas Mishra mightydre...@gmail.com wrote:

 1)Bach
  http://www.amazon.com/Design-UNIX-Operating-System-Maurice/dp/0132017997

 2)ALP
  http://www.advancedlinuxprogramming.com/


 3)UTLK
 Is for Understanding The Linux Kernel
   4)LDD
 Linux Device Drivers

 I could not get what is ALP and Bach ?
 Do you have any bookmarks pass them on here.

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Re: hi -- i was also a newbie once--thanks list.

2010-05-10 Thread Anuz Pratap Singh Tomar
On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 3:11 PM, Anuz Pratap Singh Tomar 
chambilketha...@gmail.com wrote:



 On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 3:01 PM, Tapas Mishra mightydre...@gmail.comwrote:

 
  1)Bach
  2)ALP

  3)UTLK
 Is for Understanding The Linux Kernel
   4)LDD
 Linux Device Drivers

 I could not get what is ALP and Bach ?

 ALP: Advance linux Programming
 bach: Design of Unix OS by Maurice J  Bach

here is the link for ALP:

http://www.advancedlinuxprogramming.com/

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2010-05-10 Thread cheng chen
I guess ALP must mean Advanced Linux programming.

2010/5/10 Tapas Mishra mightydre...@gmail.com

 
  1)Bach
  2)ALP

  3)UTLK
 Is for Understanding The Linux Kernel
   4)LDD
 Linux Device Drivers

 I could not get what is ALP and Bach ?
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hi -- i was also a newbie once--thanks list.

2010-05-09 Thread nidhi mittal hada
Hello List

This is my day to thank people on list.
As i was just a web developer till date and had this desire to work in
kernel like many newbies .
I started with no work ex in my hand and no knowledge
too ofcourse  in linux kernel field.

but i started with little steps 3 yrs ago ..joined this list and a few more
.
asked people how to start and followed diligently what all everyone said.

Got to get good projects ideas + projects to work on from this list only
Today i have been able to convince a good company people
that i deserve to be hired for working in this area.

and Hey !! i Got Selected !!

Thanks to list owner and so many people helping newbies like me .
i am so thankful.


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Re: hi -- i was also a newbie once--thanks list.

2010-05-09 Thread Steven Zhou
Hi,

Congratulations!

Could you share your experience to us who are still newbies in linux kernel?
How to get to start and how to participate to in the project which should be
fit for newbies?

Thanks a lot.
On Sun, May 9, 2010 at 9:06 PM, nidhi mittal hada
nidhimitta...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hello List

 This is my day to thank people on list.
 As i was just a web developer till date and had this desire to work in
 kernel like many newbies .
 I started with no work ex in my hand and no knowledge
 too ofcourse  in linux kernel field.

 but i started with little steps 3 yrs ago ..joined this list and a few more
 .
 asked people how to start and followed diligently what all everyone said.

 Got to get good projects ideas + projects to work on from this list only
 Today i have been able to convince a good company people
 that i deserve to be hired for working in this area.

 and Hey !! i Got Selected !!

 Thanks to list owner and so many people helping newbies like me .
 i am so thankful.


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Re: hi -- i was also a newbie once--thanks list.

2010-05-09 Thread nidhi mittal hada
hey all.
those who want to know..i did nothing big magical. just asked people who are
already working ..like many of us ask on this list only
then followed what they said.

its like one thing i learnt is ...

Better try it once then again then again before asking it once.
as asking fetches partial may be incorrect knowledge but asking after
rehearsing things
will fetch you correct information.

it requires persistence no doubt after when it seems no use of it .
i did very normal things like
studying

1)Bach
2)ALP
3)UTLK
4)LDD
then i was still stuck to get a project in resume.

then explore open source sourceforge community ...
its difficult i accept totally rather it was very very difficult to get
a single project from thousands lying there .
but only hope was it wasnt impossible.

and i got a few ...

that's all is reqd for getting shortlisted.

after that you are on your own .good projects just mean getting shortlisted
...that's it ..
The Complete game is still left  to successfully clear interview is with
another effort in C data structures then kernel ofcourse.

that's was all.

Nidhi





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 Hello Sir,
 Just read your mail on the newbie list. Heartiest congratulations on your
 success !!
 I hope you can share a guru-mantra with me. I have always been working
 over the web in my B.Tech career, but linux and kernel development have
 always fascinated me. I am about to complete my engineering studies in a
 month, but I want to have some linux project in my hand before I leave. Can
 you please suggest me a small module ? I am interested in networking, and
 have used pcap libraries for sniffing - I wanted to write my own network
 driver and configure pcap to use mine. After lots of reading, I am still
 stuck up with just a dream and no output :(
 I would be grateful if you can help me out in achieving my aim...I hold a
 lot of reverence for you after silently observing your posts for so many
 days :)

 Thanks in anticipation,
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  wrote:

 Hello List

 This is my day to thank people on list.
 As i was just a web developer till date and had this desire to work in
 kernel like many newbies .
 I started with no work ex in my hand and no knowledge
 too ofcourse  in linux kernel field.

 but i started with little steps 3 yrs ago ..joined this list and a few
 more .
 asked people how to start and followed diligently what all everyone said.

 Got to get good projects ideas + projects to work on from this list only
 Today i have been able to convince a good company people
 that i deserve to be hired for working in this area.

 and Hey !! i Got Selected !!

 Thanks to list owner and so many people helping newbies like me .
 i am so thankful.


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 Computer Division
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Re: hi -- i was also a newbie once--thanks list.

2010-05-09 Thread Anuz Pratap Singh Tomar
clearing an interview: easier part.
Contributing code back to community: that is more important. And harder part
is once you get job, the priorities shuffle towards making it run, rather
than getting it done correctly or even giving back what was once taken from
community.

On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 10:25 AM, nidhi mittal hada nidhimitta...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 hey all.
 those who want to know..i did nothing big magical. just asked people who
 are already working ..like many of us ask on this list only
 then followed what they said.

 its like one thing i learnt is ...

 Better try it once then again then again before asking it once.
 as asking fetches partial may be incorrect knowledge but asking after
 rehearsing things
 will fetch you correct information.

 it requires persistence no doubt after when it seems no use of it .
 i did very normal things like
 studying

 1)Bach
 2)ALP
 3)UTLK
 4)LDD
 then i was still stuck to get a project in resume.

 then explore open source sourceforge community ...
 its difficult i accept totally rather it was very very difficult to get
 a single project from thousands lying there .
 but only hope was it wasnt impossible.

 and i got a few ...

 that's all is reqd for getting shortlisted.

 after that you are on your own .good projects just mean getting shortlisted
 ...that's it ..
 The Complete game is still left  to successfully clear interview is
 with another effort in C data structures then kernel ofcourse.

 that's was all.

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Re: Re: Say Hi and language exchange(I'm Chinese)

2009-04-28 Thread Denis Borisevich
2009/4/24 Jingyuan Huang jingyuan.hu...@gmail.com:
 It's available online. See Vishal's email.

 Best Wishes
 Jingyuan Huang
 
 Computer Graphics Lab
 University of Waterloo




 2009/4/24 Anuz Pratap Singh Tomar chambilketha...@gmail.com:
 Linux device driver 3rd edition by Alessandro Rubini, Greg kroah hartman
 Oreilly publications. It should be easily availaible at any computer book
 shop or look for online bookstore like amazon!

 2009/4/24 xiaohuidexinge xiaohuidexi...@163.com

 Thank you very much. :) what is the full name of the book LDD3? And
 where I can find it?


 在2009-04-24,Pei Lin telent...@gmail.com 写道:

 ^_^ you go to the wrong place,if you a newbie you can see the book
 LDD3 to start and when u encounter the trouble,u can ask the
 question in this maillist, but this maillist is not for english
 learning, just for the knowledge sharing of the kernel. ^_^

 BRs,
 Lin



 2009/4/24 Li Zefan


Hi!
You can get the PDF version of this book from O'Reilly web-site:
http://oreilly.com/catalog/9780596005900/book/index.csp
And have a look at errata: http://oreilly.com/catalog/9780596005900/errata/

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Say Hi and language exchange(I'm Chinese)

2009-04-24 Thread xiaohuidexinge
Hi guys:
I am a Chinese. I 've join in this mailgroup for a while. But I find it 
hard to join in these discussion, because I am a newb for linux and my English 
is just at the beginning. So I want to find a partner to do some language 
exchange, that I help you improving your Chinese and you teach me English.
If someone is interested, contact me please.
that all. 
Sorry to 占用大家时间

Re: Say Hi and language exchange(I'm Chinese)

2009-04-24 Thread Li Zefan
xiaohuidexinge :
 Hi guys:
 I am a Chinese. I 've join in this mailgroup for a while. But I find it 
 hard to join in these discussion, because I am a newb for linux and my 
 English is just at the beginning. So I want to find a partner to do some 
 language exchange, that I help you improving your Chinese and you teach me 
 English.
 If someone is interested, contact me please.
 that all. 
 Sorry to 

I guess you don't know there is a chinese mailing list? ;)
http://zh-kernel.org/

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Re: Say Hi and language exchange(I'm Chinese)

2009-04-24 Thread Pei Lin
^_^ you go to the wrong place,if you a newbie you can see the book
LDD3 to start and when u encounter the trouble,u can ask the
question in this maillist, but this maillist is not for english
learning, just for the knowledge sharing of the kernel. ^_^

BRs,
Lin



2009/4/24 Li Zefan l...@cn.fujitsu.com:
 xiaohuidexinge 写道:
 Hi guys:
 I am a Chinese. I 've join in this mailgroup for a while. But I find it 
 hard to join in these discussion, because I am a newb for linux and my 
 English is just at the beginning. So I want to find a partner to do some 
 language exchange, that I help you improving your Chinese and you teach me 
 English.
 If someone is interested, contact me please.
 that all.
 Sorry to 占用大家时间

 I guess you don't know there is a chinese mailing list? ;)
http://zh-kernel.org/

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Re: Say Hi and language exchange(I'm Chinese)

2009-04-24 Thread Vishal Thanki

http://lwn.net/Kernel/LDD3/

xiaohuidexinge wrote:
Thank you very much. :) what is the full name of the book LDD3? And 
where I can find it?



??2009-04-24??Pei Lin telent...@gmail.com ??

^_^ you go to the wrong place,if you a newbie you can see the book
LDD3 to start and when u encounter the trouble,u can ask the
question in this maillist, but this maillist is not for english
learning, just for the knowledge sharing of the kernel. ^_^

BRs,
Lin



2009/4/24 Li Zefan 





?? http://email.163.com 



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Re: Re: Say Hi and language exchange(I'm Chinese)

2009-04-24 Thread Anuz Pratap Singh Tomar
Linux device driver 3rd edition by Alessandro Rubini, Greg kroah hartman
Oreilly publications. It should be easily availaible at any computer book
shop or look for online bookstore like amazon!

2009/4/24 xiaohuidexinge xiaohuidexi...@163.com

 Thank you very much. :) what is the full name of the book LDD3? And where
 I can find it?


 在2009-04-24,Pei Lin telent...@gmail.com 写道:

 ^_^ you go to the wrong place,if you a newbie you can see the book
 LDD3 to start and when u encounter the trouble,u can ask the
 question in this maillist, but this maillist is not for english
 learning, just for the knowledge sharing of the kernel. ^_^

 BRs,
 Lin



 2009/4/24 Li Zefan



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Re: Re: Say Hi and language exchange(I'm Chinese)

2009-04-24 Thread Thomas De Schampheleire
Ni hao :-)

The full name of LDD3 is Linux Device Drivers, third edition.
It is available in PDF version here: http://lwn.net/Kernel/LDD3/

Best regards,
Thomas

2009/4/24 xiaohuidexinge xiaohuidexi...@163.com:
 Thank you very much. :) what is the full name of the book LDD3? And where
 I can find it?


 在2009-04-24,Pei Lin telent...@gmail.com 写道:

 ^_^ you go to the wrong place,if you a newbie you can see the book
 LDD3 to start and when u encounter the trouble,u can ask the
 question in this maillist, but this maillist is not for english
 learning, just for the knowledge sharing of the kernel. ^_^

 BRs,
 Lin



 2009/4/24 Li Zefan

 
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Re:Re: Say Hi and language exchange(I'm Chinese)

2009-04-24 Thread xiaohuidexinge
Thank you very much. :) what is the full name of the book LDD3? And where I 
can find it?


在2009-04-24,Pei Lin telent...@gmail.com 写道:

^_^ you go to the wrong place,if you a newbie you can see the book
LDD3 to start and when u encounter the trouble,u can ask the
question in this maillist, but this maillist is not for english
learning, just for the knowledge sharing of the kernel. ^_^

BRs,
Lin



2009/4/24 Li Zefan

Re: Say Hi and language exchange(I'm Chinese)

2009-04-24 Thread xiaohuidexinge
Thank you very much. :) what is the full name of the book LDD3? And where I 
can find it?




在2009-04-24,Pei Lin telent...@gmail.com 写道:
^_^ you go to the wrong place,if you a newbie you can see the book
LDD3 to start and when u encounter the trouble,u can ask the
question in this maillist, but this maillist is not for english
learning, just for the knowledge sharing of the kernel. ^_^

BRs,
Lin



2009/4/24 Li Zefan l...@cn.fujitsu.com:
 xiaohuidexinge 写道:
 Hi guys:
 I am a Chinese. I 've join in this mailgroup for a while. But I find it 
 hard to join in these discussion, because I am a newb for linux and my 
 English is just at the beginning. So I want to find a partner to do some 
 language exchange, that I help you improving your Chinese and you teach me 
 English.
 If someone is interested, contact me please.
 that all.
 Sorry to 占用大家时间

 I guess you don't know there is a chinese mailing list? ;)
http://zh-kernel.org/

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Re: Re: Say Hi and language exchange(I'm Chinese)

2009-04-24 Thread Jingyuan Huang
It's available online. See Vishal's email.

Best Wishes
Jingyuan Huang

Computer Graphics Lab
University of Waterloo




2009/4/24 Anuz Pratap Singh Tomar chambilketha...@gmail.com:
 Linux device driver 3rd edition by Alessandro Rubini, Greg kroah hartman
 Oreilly publications. It should be easily availaible at any computer book
 shop or look for online bookstore like amazon!

 2009/4/24 xiaohuidexinge xiaohuidexi...@163.com

 Thank you very much. :) what is the full name of the book LDD3? And
 where I can find it?


 在2009-04-24,Pei Lin telent...@gmail.com 写道:

 ^_^ you go to the wrong place,if you a newbie you can see the book
 LDD3 to start and when u encounter the trouble,u can ask the
 question in this maillist, but this maillist is not for english
 learning, just for the knowledge sharing of the kernel. ^_^

 BRs,
 Lin



 2009/4/24 Li Zefan

 
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Re: Say Hi and language exchange(I'm Chinese)

2009-04-24 Thread Pei Lin
linux device driver 3
http://lwn.net/Kernel/LDD3/
the website LWN is a good place,there are many useful articles for
linux kernel.

BRs

Lin

ps. you need use google as much as possibly , there are many resource
on the internet.

2009/4/24 xiaohuidexinge xiaohuidexi...@163.com:
 Thank you very much. :) what is the full name of the book LDD3? And where
 I can find it?


 在2009-04-24,Pei Lin telent...@gmail.com
 写道:
^_^ you go to the wrong place,if you a newbie you can see the book
LDD3 to start and when u encounter the trouble,u can ask the
question in this maillist, but this maillist is not for english
learning, just for the knowledge sharing of the kernel. ^_^

BRs,
Lin



2009/4/24 Li Zefan l...@cn.fujitsu.com:
 xiaohuidexinge 写道:
 Hi guys:
 I am a Chinese. I 've join in this mailgroup for a while. But I find
 it hard to join in these discussion, because I am a newb for linux and my
 English is just at the beginning. So I want to find a partner to do some
 language exchange, that I help you improving your Chinese and you teach me
 English.
 If someone is interested, contact me please.
 that all.
 Sorry to 占用大家时间

 I guess you don't know there is a chinese mailing list? ;)
http://zh-kernel.org/

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hi

2008-05-02 Thread vasant.j
hi

Re: Hi all......

2008-03-14 Thread Radhesh Kamath
Understanding the Linux Kernel, 3rd edition by Bovet and Cesati.

Worth buying.

Regards,
Radhesh

On Tue, Mar 11, 2008 at 11:42 PM, vasant j [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi i am kernel newbie ,kindly suggest me any linux pdf or book to start
 up.

 Regards,
 vasant



Re: Hi all

2008-03-12 Thread taha siddiqi
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To begin with
www.*tldp.org*/LDP/lkmpg/2.6/lkmpg.pdf

and then of course Linux Device Drivers 3rd edition *
http://lwn.net/Kernel/LDD3/*

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Hi all......

2008-03-11 Thread vasant j
Hi i am kernel newbie ,kindly suggest me any linux pdf or book to start
up.

Regards,
vasant


Re: Hi all Reply plssssss

2008-02-25 Thread Kyle Spaans
Definitely Beowulf clustering. It requires a lot of networking optimization.

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Hi all reply plzzzz.....

2008-01-22 Thread vasant j
Hi,

  How can we disable all interrupts in Linux.(any command for
that!).

Thank you,
vasant.


RE: Hi all reply plzzzz.....

2008-01-22 Thread Gaurav Aggarwal
In the 2.6 kernel, it is no longer possible to globally disable
interrupts. In particular, the cli(), sti(), save_flags(), and
restore_flags() functions are no longer available. Disabling interrupts
across all processors in the system is simply no longer done.

It is still possible to disable all interrupts locally with
local_save_flags() or local_irq_disable(). A single interrupt can be
disabled globally with disable_irq()

 

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Hi,

 

  How can we disable all interrupts in Linux.(any command
for that!).

 

Thank you,

vasant.



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HI all... reply pls

2007-11-21 Thread vasant j
hi,

I am writing device drivers for PCI card.I want write
my own Read and Write function calls in Driver module..


I am using ioremap function which return a pointeri want to use
this pointer in my own read and write functionalitieskindly reply
to this as soon as possible.


Thank you,
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RE: HI all... reply pls

2007-11-21 Thread Saumendra Dash
Hi vasant,

  I am writing device drivers for PCI card.I want write
my own Read and Write function calls in Driver module..
I am using ioremap function which return a pointeri want to use
this pointer in my own read and write functionalitieskindly reply
to this as soon as possible.

If it's a PCI controler for some board then you need to find the address range 
of config and IO/Memory space region of the device. From the board data sheat 
you can easily make out the different address and the length of each regions. 
 Then you can fing the base address of your device for each region(config, 
IO/Mem) using  ioremap(). You can use this base address to access the registers 
in different regions.

 If it's a PCI based card such as serial/eth, then you need to probe for your 
device based on the devid and venid using pci_find_device()/ pci_find_slot() 
based on your requirement. Then find the base address of your device using 
ioremap()(the address where your device is mapped can be found fron the data 
sheet). Now you can access the registers for your device. 

Hope this will help.

Thanks,
Saumendra

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Hi all....reply pls !!

2007-11-21 Thread vasant j
Hi ,

  I want to use ioremap returned pointer as
globalin the driver..how can i do it


ex:-

  int *ptr;

  ptr=ioremap(args..);

  This  'ptr' i want to access as global.how?


Thanks
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RE: HI all... reply pls

2007-11-20 Thread Saumendra Dash
Hi vasant,

  I am writing device drivers for PCI card.I want write
my own Read and Write function calls in Driver module..
I am using ioremap function which return a pointeri want to use
this pointer in my own read and write functionalitieskindly reply
to this as soon as possible.

If it's a PCI controler for some board then you need to find the address range 
of config and IO/Memory space region of the device. From the board data sheat 
you can easily make out the different address and the length of each regions. 
 Then you can fing the base address of your device for each region(config, 
IO/Mem) using  ioremap(). You can use this base address to access the registers 
in different regions.

 If it's a PCI based card such as serial/eth, then you need to probe for your 
device based on the devid and venid using pci_find_device()/ pci_find_slot() 
based on your requirement. Then find the base address of your device using 
ioremap()(the address where your device is mapped can be found fron the data 
sheet). Now you can access the registers for your device. 

Hope this will help.

Thanks,
Saumendra


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Re: Hi Start_kernel

2007-11-16 Thread sahlot arvind
printf is a libarary function, while printk is implemented in kernel itself
since kernel doesnt use library functions.
printf displays on STD output, while printk logs the messages and kernel log
demon displays that content on the screen.
Apart from this, you can also pass the priority of the message to printk.

Hope it helps


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  What is the differnce between printf and printk

 Easy: printf() is for userspace, printk() is for kernel space.


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Re: Hi Start_kernel

2007-11-15 Thread Erik Mouw
On Thu, Nov 15, 2007 at 08:03:17AM -0600, Linto Poulose E wrote:
 What is the differnce between printf and printk

Easy: printf() is for userspace, printk() is for kernel space.


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Re: Hi

2007-09-19 Thread Muhammad Tayseer Alquoatli
On 9/19/07, Sachin Gaikwad [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi all,

 I have built my kernel from source, installed and booted in it.

 Now I have written a small module. Can I insert this module into the
 runningn kernel ?


after compiling and installing your module you can insert it by:
modprobe your_mod_name
or
insmod your_mod_name


Is there anything which I should take care of while compiling this
 module, as we have to insert it into the running kernel ?


here you can find what you want:
http://lxr.linux.no/source/Documentation/kbuild/


Thanks in advance,
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Hi

2007-09-18 Thread Sachin Gaikwad
Hi all,

I have built my kernel from source, installed and booted in it.

Now I have written a small module. Can I insert this module into the
runningn kernel ?

Is there anything which I should take care of while compiling this
module, as we have to insert it into the running kernel ?

Thanks in advance,
Sachin

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