Re: [Kicad-developers] unified configuration files placement proposal

2014-01-20 Thread Lorenzo Marcantonio
On Sun, Jan 19, 2014 at 07:11:59PM +0100, ml wrote:
 ~/.config/kicad

That should be an XDG standard place or something like that, it's fine
for me. Even everything in a ~/.kicad would be OK.

Everything but not-hidden file in the home (like the current
fp-lib-table)...

-- 
Lorenzo Marcantonio
Logos Srl

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Re: [Kicad-developers] unified configuration files placement proposal

2014-01-20 Thread Wayne Stambaugh
On 1/20/2014 3:00 AM, Lorenzo Marcantonio wrote:
 On Sun, Jan 19, 2014 at 07:11:59PM +0100, ml wrote:
 ~/.config/kicad
 
 That should be an XDG standard place or something like that, it's fine
 for me. Even everything in a ~/.kicad would be OK.
 
 Everything but not-hidden file in the home (like the current
 fp-lib-table)...
 

This has been discussed before.  The problem implementing this is not
Linux.  Windows is the problem child.  Since the footprint library table
implementation, the fp-lib-table file is stored as text file on Windows
in appropriate user's application data path .  In other words the output
of wxStandardPaths::GetUserConfigDir() with the kicad path appended to
it.  I would prefer to save all of the Windows configuration in separate
files in the same path.  It would require some significant changes to
the way configuration settings are saved on Windows.  I'm may get around
to it one of these days since I too think that KiCad adds too many files
to the ~/ folder on Linux.

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[Kicad-developers] testing has been renamed to product

2014-01-20 Thread Dick Hollenbeck

The testing branch has been renamed to product.

This may make some links in your repo/.bzr/branch/branch.conf files errant.

If you have a checkout, i.e. bound branch from the testing repo, see if

$ bzr up

stops working.  If not, no worries.  If it does stop working:

you can either edit this file with a text editor, or often an easier solution 
is to go
into your working tree and do:

$ bzr bind lp:kicad

which will cause bzr to edit the said file for you itself refreshing the link 
to the
product branch.  If you had used lp:kicad originally to checkout the branch, 
there is a
change it will still work.  lp:kicad seems to be like a neutral alias to what 
was
testing and now is product.

This change was discussed by the lead developers at length and it was felt that 
the name
testing was too foreboding, and was scaring people away from using it.

The stable branch often has more bugs in it than testing does.  I regret 
ever creating
it.  The lifetime of a bug in product is usually shorter.  We wanted more folks 
using what
is now product, so that the bug lifetime would even get shorter, you know, 
more eyes and
testers.

Wayne and Jean-Pierre may identify periods of quiet, or increased reliability 
within the
product branch, so that you can take your production snapshots during those 
periods.


Dick


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Re: [Kicad-developers] testing has been renamed to product

2014-01-20 Thread Dick Hollenbeck


 Wayne and Jean-Pierre may identify periods of quiet, or increased reliability 
 within the
 product branch, so that you can take your production snapshots during those 
 periods.


bzr supports revision tagging, which if hypothetically done at that same 
point in time
where one used to take stable snapshots of testing, leads to an equivalent 
set of
recommended revisions from which one could take snapshots *at any point in 
time* for
production use.



Dick



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Re: [Kicad-developers] testing has been renamed to product

2014-01-20 Thread Dick Hollenbeck
On 01/20/2014 12:08 PM, Travis Ayres wrote:
 I think this renaming has broken Brian's Kicad Winbuilder scripts.


That's very possible.  I don't have commit rights to his winbuilder, but he is 
on the
mailing list so he should have received the notification.

It can't be more than a line or two.

Using lp:kicad in references to this branch gives some amount of immunity, as 
that
lp:kicad seems to be treated like a symlink at launchpad.  This sym-linking 
like
behaviour may be new however within bzr or launchpad.






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Re: [Kicad-developers] testing has been renamed to product

2014-01-20 Thread Dick Hollenbeck
On 01/20/2014 12:42 PM, Travis Ayres wrote:
 I'm getting:
 ERROR Updating source code!
 ERROR Bazaar said: bzr: ERROR: Not a branch: 
 http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~kicad
 -testing-committers/kicad/testing/.
 
 I thought it might be this change, but you're right about lp:kicad being 
 treated like a
 symlink and thus giving some amount of immunity. 
 
 Unfortunately now I'm not sure where the error is coming from. 


After following the instruction in my email, which were:


$ bzr bind lp:kicad


It should work.

If not, then attach your branch.conf file to the developer's mailing list.



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Re: [Kicad-developers] testing has been renamed to product

2014-01-20 Thread Travis Ayres
My branch.conf file:

parent_location =
http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~brian-sidebotham/kicad-winbuilder/trunk/
bound_location =
http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~kicad-product-committers/kicad/product/
bound = True



On Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 11:01 AM, Dick Hollenbeck d...@softplc.com wrote:

 On 01/20/2014 12:42 PM, Travis Ayres wrote:
  I'm getting:
  ERROR Updating source code!
  ERROR Bazaar said: bzr: ERROR: Not a branch: 
 http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~kicad
  -testing-committers/kicad/testing/.
 
  I thought it might be this change, but you're right about lp:kicad being
 treated like a
  symlink and thus giving some amount of immunity.
 
  Unfortunately now I'm not sure where the error is coming from.


 After following the instruction in my email, which were:


 $ bzr bind lp:kicad


 It should work.

 If not, then attach your branch.conf file to the developer's mailing list.



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Re: [Kicad-developers] testing has been renamed to product

2014-01-20 Thread Dick Hollenbeck
On 01/20/2014 01:32 PM, Travis Ayres wrote:
 My branch.conf file:
 
 parent_location = 
 http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~brian-sidebotham/kicad-winbuilder/trunk/
 bound_location = 
 http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~kicad-product-committers/kicad/product/
 bound = True
 


When I said run

$ bzr bind lp:kicad

I meant in the kicad source working tree, not in the winbuilder working tree.

You evidently have two working trees with a winbuilder setup, and now the 
winbuilder tree
is broken, so you are doubly broke.

Fixing the winbuilder tree:

$ cd winbuilder tree
$ bzr bind http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~brian-sidebotham/kicad-winbuilder/trunk/


Fixing the kicad source tree:

$ cd kicad src tree
$ bzr bind lp:kicad

After both are fixed, you have a prayer.  If this does not work, I am out of 
ideas.  Start
over is what I would say.  You can probably still use the same computer though 
:)







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Re: [Kicad-developers] testing has been renamed to product

2014-01-20 Thread Travis Ayres
You can probably still use the same computer though :)

Haha thanks Dick :) I appreciate it.


On Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 11:51 AM, Dick Hollenbeck d...@softplc.com wrote:

 On 01/20/2014 01:32 PM, Travis Ayres wrote:
  My branch.conf file:
 
  parent_location =
 http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~brian-sidebotham/kicad-winbuilder/trunk/
  bound_location =
 http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~kicad-product-committers/kicad/product/
  bound = True
 


 When I said run

 $ bzr bind lp:kicad

 I meant in the kicad source working tree, not in the winbuilder working
 tree.

 You evidently have two working trees with a winbuilder setup, and now the
 winbuilder tree
 is broken, so you are doubly broke.

 Fixing the winbuilder tree:

 $ cd winbuilder tree
 $ bzr bind
 http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~brian-sidebotham/kicad-winbuilder/trunk/


 Fixing the kicad source tree:

 $ cd kicad src tree
 $ bzr bind lp:kicad

 After both are fixed, you have a prayer.  If this does not work, I am out
 of ideas.  Start
 over is what I would say.  You can probably still use the same computer
 though :)







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[Kicad-developers] New Package for Mac OS X

2014-01-20 Thread Renato B. Santiago
Hi Friends,

With help of Hollenbeck, Jean-Pierre and various texts and answers in the web, 
I make my first release of KiCad for Mac OS X. It`s available in:

http://www.quartzo.net/kicad

Only one .dmg file. All the Kicad in one folder! Simple and Fast! 

—

I make this release based in the github script below: 

https://github.com/mangelajo/KicadOSXBuilder

and the tutorial below:

https://github.com/KiCad/kicad-source-mirror/blob/master/Documentation/compiling/mac-osx.txt

—

How to do users knowing my release? Exists a Wiki or something like this?

Thanks and sorry for my awful English.

Renato B. Santiago





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[Kicad-developers] Diferences between STABLE and PRODUCT Releases

2014-01-20 Thread Renato B. Santiago
What is the diferences and, mainly, the purpose of the both?

Thanks

Renato B. Santiago

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Re: [Kicad-developers] Diferences between STABLE and PRODUCT Releases

2014-01-20 Thread Carl Poirier
It's been discussed mere hours ago on this mailing list.

https://lists.launchpad.net/kicad-developers/msg12010.html


On Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 6:33 PM, Renato B. Santiago rbsa...@quartzo.netwrote:

 What is the diferences and, mainly, the purpose of the both?

 Thanks

 Renato B. Santiago

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Re: [Kicad-developers] New Package for Mac OS X

2014-01-20 Thread Cirilo Bernardo
- Original Message -

 From: Renato B. Santiago rbsa...@quartzo.net
 To: KiCad Developers kicad-developers@lists.launchpad.net
 Cc: 
 Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2014 10:32 AM
 Subject: [Kicad-developers] New Package for Mac OS X
 
 Hi Friends,
 
 With help of Hollenbeck, Jean-Pierre and various texts and answers in the 
 web, I 
 make my first release of KiCad for Mac OS X. It`s available in:
 
 http://www.quartzo.net/kicad
 
 Only one .dmg file. All the Kicad in one folder! Simple and Fast! 
 
 —
 
 I make this release based in the github script below: 
 
 https://github.com/mangelajo/KicadOSXBuilder
 
 and the tutorial below:
 
 https://github.com/KiCad/kicad-source-mirror/blob/master/Documentation/compiling/mac-osx.txt
 
 —
 
 How to do users knowing my release? Exists a Wiki or something like this?
 
 Thanks and sorry for my awful English.
 
 Renato B. Santiago
 


Hi Renato,

 That's fantastic. Did you have to do many things which weren't described in 
the existing documentation? It would be good to have an up-to-date description 
of how to build on OSX.

- Cirilo

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