Re: [Kicad-developers] New Build Dependency

[Seth Hillbrand]

As promised, the MR is:

https://gitlab.com/kicad/code/kicad/-/merge_requests/359

You can click the "Check out branch" to get the branch to test

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On Mon, Aug 17, 2020 at 9:44 AM Seth Hillbrand  wrote:

> I should have the MR ready today and I'll send along the branch info.
>
> Best-
> Seth
>
> On Mon, Aug 17, 2020 at 9:38 AM Adam Wolf 
> wrote:
>
>> I love the heads up! Thanks!
>>
>> Is there a sample branch I can try before it's merged into master?
>>
>> Adam
>>
>> On Mon, Aug 17, 2020 at 10:23 AM Seth Hillbrand 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Folks (Packagers especially)-
>>>
>>> We are adding a new build dependency to KiCad in the next few days.
>>> zlib1g-dev (on debian) will be required to support stream
>>> compression/decompression of model files.
>>>
>>> Please update your build environment to include this (if it doesn't
>>> already).  The critical file for KiCad is "zlib.h" in one of the standard
>>> include locations.  Let me know if you have any questions.
>>>
>>> Best-
>>> Seth
>>>
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>>
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Re: [Kicad-developers] MSYS2 Dropping 32-bit support

[Christopher Buckley]

 Okay, admitting that it's been almost a year since I tuned in to any KiCAD 
dev, this MSYS stuff has got my attention, and I feel compelled to offer my two 
'sense' worth.

I'm disappointed to hear support for 32 bit is going bye-bye, but then I still 
use XP because the vast majority of my CAE/CAD and management software is all 
that old.

So I'm really unhappy with this move, because I'm sure there are a heck of a 
lot of people out there like me that can't afford to spend 5-10K upgrading all 
of their software for 64-bit systems that are being force upon us by 
"advancements" and the market place.

It makes me wonder: "How long until we will be forced in 128-bit systems, and 
must spend another 5-10K updating???"

That being said, my last build of KiCAD was 64-Bit, and it seems KiCAD left the 
32 bit world long ago anyways.

Sadly, I haven't had time to transition to Linux Wine or ReactOS that will 
facilitate my needs.

Driving a truck 12-14 hours a day 6-7 days per week just to survive doesn't 
allow a lot of time to do anything, let alone deal with all my "tech" problems 
that I wish I had time for.

Thanks for keeping me advised, and aware of my progressively sinking boat! LOL!

Cheers all,

C


 On Tuesday, August 4, 2020, 07:39:45 a.m. MDT, Mark Roszko 
 wrote:  
 
 Sigh, almost as bad as QT 5 minors being majors without ever bumping the 5 
because "qt5" is a marketing brand they don't want to replace from the 
commercial standpoint.
On Tue, Aug 4, 2020 at 9:15 AM Ian McInerney  wrote:



On Tue, Aug 4, 2020 at 1:44 PM Mark Roszko  wrote:

Been working on Phoenix, I basically have something working to build, though 
it'll be awhile before I have anything to share.

However, here's the fun part:wxPhoenix 4.1.0 only works with wxWidgets 3.1.4 
and abovewxPhoenix 4.0.7 only works with wxWidgets 3.0.x series
There's a fun gap with 3.1.0-3.1.3 :D Basically even with their fancy pancy 
dynamic generation system for most of their code. They hardcoded things 
specific references with no version checking fallback. Even the 4.0.x series 
may have some compatibility issues with wx 3.0.x depending on mix.
wx is to blame too because wxWidgets 3.1.4 has API changes that really should 
have made it 3.2.  Hell, 3.1.4 appears to have enabled a newer C++ standard and 
the build is broken for MSVC until you patch it with master because Microsoft 
under some newer standard flags clamped down on STL export violations.


wxWidgets follows a "development series" version system - only the even numbers 
are stable releases (e.g. 2.9, 3.0, 3.2, etc.), so anything in 3.1 is going to 
have API/ABI changes happening as they change the API and stabilize it before 
the next stable release (the full list of changes from 3.0 to the current 
3.1/future 3.2 is here 
https://github.com/wxWidgets/wxWidgets/blob/master/docs/changes.txt). This on 
its own isn't a problem, the real problem is that 3.1 has been in development 
for a long time and hasn't been released as a stable release yet. 
I have a PR update to vcpkg to go to 3.1.4 and patch it for 
MSVC.https://github.com/microsoft/vcpkg/pull/12733  


On Tue, Aug 4, 2020 at 7:41 AM Wayne Stambaugh  wrote:

On 8/3/20 9:19 PM, Seth Hillbrand wrote:
> 
> 
> On Mon, Aug 3, 2020, 10:48 AM Wayne Stambaugh  > wrote:
> 
>     I'm not ready to drop 32 bit builds for V6.  I still think there are
>     enough 32-bit users to warrant supporting it for one more release.  It's
>     something we can discuss for V7.
> 
> 
> If we keep 32 bit builds on mingw2, does that mean that we freeze all
> packages at their current versions?  It might be problematic to keep
> different package versions for different architectures.

I'm assuming you mean dependency packages so yes we would continue to
build 32 bit windows versions using the current package versions.  If
someone figures out how to get wxPhoenix to build, then we could bump to
wxWidgets 3.1.x and Python 3.x.

> 
> Obviously, if we successfully move to MSVC, this question is moot.
> 
> -Seth
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Re: [Kicad-developers] New Build Dependency

[Mark Roszko]

Every package in vcpkg is a dev package as that is its purpose ;)

linux distros just make a distinction with -dev to make headers and link
libs a separate download/save space.

On Mon, Aug 17, 2020 at 4:02 PM Roberto Fernández Bautista <
roberto.fer@gmail.com> wrote:

> Ah I see! Sorry I thought it was maybe a special "dev" package or
> something.
>
> Thanks for this!
>
> Roberto
>
> On Mon, 17 Aug 2020 at 20:50, Ian McInerney 
> wrote:
>
>> It will be `zlib`.
>>
>> -Ian
>>
>> On Mon, Aug 17, 2020 at 8:20 PM Roberto Fernández Bautista <
>> roberto.fer@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Seth,
>>>
>>> Thanks for heads up. Any ideas what the new dependency might be called
>>> in VCPKG? Or if not available, could you let me know which CMAKE variable
>>> should I set to "OFF" in order to compile without the dependency?
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> Roberto.
>>>
>>> On Mon, 17 Aug 2020 at 17:44, Seth Hillbrand  wrote:
>>>
 I should have the MR ready today and I'll send along the branch info.

 Best-
 Seth

 On Mon, Aug 17, 2020 at 9:38 AM Adam Wolf <
 adamw...@feelslikeburning.com> wrote:

> I love the heads up! Thanks!
>
> Is there a sample branch I can try before it's merged into master?
>
> Adam
>
> On Mon, Aug 17, 2020 at 10:23 AM Seth Hillbrand 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Folks (Packagers especially)-
>>
>> We are adding a new build dependency to KiCad in the next few days.
>> zlib1g-dev (on debian) will be required to support stream
>> compression/decompression of model files.
>>
>> Please update your build environment to include this (if it doesn't
>> already).  The critical file for KiCad is "zlib.h" in one of the standard
>> include locations.  Let me know if you have any questions.
>>
>> Best-
>> Seth
>>
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Re: [Kicad-developers] New Build Dependency

[Roberto Fernández Bautista]

Ah I see! Sorry I thought it was maybe a special "dev" package or something.

Thanks for this!

Roberto

On Mon, 17 Aug 2020 at 20:50, Ian McInerney 
wrote:

> It will be `zlib`.
>
> -Ian
>
> On Mon, Aug 17, 2020 at 8:20 PM Roberto Fernández Bautista <
> roberto.fer@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Seth,
>>
>> Thanks for heads up. Any ideas what the new dependency might be called in
>> VCPKG? Or if not available, could you let me know which CMAKE variable
>> should I set to "OFF" in order to compile without the dependency?
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Roberto.
>>
>> On Mon, 17 Aug 2020 at 17:44, Seth Hillbrand  wrote:
>>
>>> I should have the MR ready today and I'll send along the branch info.
>>>
>>> Best-
>>> Seth
>>>
>>> On Mon, Aug 17, 2020 at 9:38 AM Adam Wolf 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 I love the heads up! Thanks!

 Is there a sample branch I can try before it's merged into master?

 Adam

 On Mon, Aug 17, 2020 at 10:23 AM Seth Hillbrand 
 wrote:

> Hi Folks (Packagers especially)-
>
> We are adding a new build dependency to KiCad in the next few days.
> zlib1g-dev (on debian) will be required to support stream
> compression/decompression of model files.
>
> Please update your build environment to include this (if it doesn't
> already).  The critical file for KiCad is "zlib.h" in one of the standard
> include locations.  Let me know if you have any questions.
>
> Best-
> Seth
>
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Re: [Kicad-developers] New Build Dependency

[Ian McInerney]

It will be `zlib`.

-Ian

On Mon, Aug 17, 2020 at 8:20 PM Roberto Fernández Bautista <
roberto.fer@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Seth,
>
> Thanks for heads up. Any ideas what the new dependency might be called in
> VCPKG? Or if not available, could you let me know which CMAKE variable
> should I set to "OFF" in order to compile without the dependency?
>
> Thanks
>
> Roberto.
>
> On Mon, 17 Aug 2020 at 17:44, Seth Hillbrand  wrote:
>
>> I should have the MR ready today and I'll send along the branch info.
>>
>> Best-
>> Seth
>>
>> On Mon, Aug 17, 2020 at 9:38 AM Adam Wolf 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I love the heads up! Thanks!
>>>
>>> Is there a sample branch I can try before it's merged into master?
>>>
>>> Adam
>>>
>>> On Mon, Aug 17, 2020 at 10:23 AM Seth Hillbrand 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Hi Folks (Packagers especially)-

 We are adding a new build dependency to KiCad in the next few days.
 zlib1g-dev (on debian) will be required to support stream
 compression/decompression of model files.

 Please update your build environment to include this (if it doesn't
 already).  The critical file for KiCad is "zlib.h" in one of the standard
 include locations.  Let me know if you have any questions.

 Best-
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>>
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Re: [Kicad-developers] New Build Dependency

[Roberto Fernández Bautista]

Hi Seth,

Thanks for heads up. Any ideas what the new dependency might be called in
VCPKG? Or if not available, could you let me know which CMAKE variable
should I set to "OFF" in order to compile without the dependency?

Thanks

Roberto.

On Mon, 17 Aug 2020 at 17:44, Seth Hillbrand  wrote:

> I should have the MR ready today and I'll send along the branch info.
>
> Best-
> Seth
>
> On Mon, Aug 17, 2020 at 9:38 AM Adam Wolf 
> wrote:
>
>> I love the heads up! Thanks!
>>
>> Is there a sample branch I can try before it's merged into master?
>>
>> Adam
>>
>> On Mon, Aug 17, 2020 at 10:23 AM Seth Hillbrand 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Folks (Packagers especially)-
>>>
>>> We are adding a new build dependency to KiCad in the next few days.
>>> zlib1g-dev (on debian) will be required to support stream
>>> compression/decompression of model files.
>>>
>>> Please update your build environment to include this (if it doesn't
>>> already).  The critical file for KiCad is "zlib.h" in one of the standard
>>> include locations.  Let me know if you have any questions.
>>>
>>> Best-
>>> Seth
>>>
>>> --
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>>> *Lead Developer*
>>> +1-530-302-5483‬ <+12126039372>
>>> Davis, CA
>>> www.kipro-pcb.comi...@kipro-pcb.com
>>>
>>
>
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Re: [Kicad-developers] Not a priority: building Kicad on Ubuntu on Windows (WSL)

[Mark Roszko]

> I assume this is due to the way the make script determines if it is Linux
or Windows.

KiCad does not determine the Operating system. CMake does.
You are somehow invoking or mixing executables between windows and linux.
i.e. if you have CMAKE.exe in path, it may be executed inside your wsl2
shell. This will confuse it.


I wouldn't really bother trying to make KiCad run under WSL2it's really
big world of hurt. Namely, GUI support is non-existent and the workarounds
are basically installing outdated Xorg server binaries on windows and
remote connecting to the WSL2 VM. You are probably better off spawning a
full Hyper-V VM


On Mon, Aug 17, 2020 at 12:42 PM Brian Piccioni 
wrote:

> Hello
>
> As I say, not a priority but I thought something I'd try. It might be
> useful to be able to build/run Kicad in WSL for testing. If it works it
> will mean people don't have to dual boot in order to test.
>
> I have two issues:
>
> 1) NGSPICE not found. Unfortunately I cannot get the NGSPICE build
> script referenced to work. First it complained about not having yacc and
> after installing byacc I get the error
>
> make[2]: Leaving directory '/tmp/libngspice_so/ngspice/src/maths'
> Making all in frontend
> make[2]: Entering directory '/tmp/libngspice_so/ngspice/src/frontend'
>YACC parse-bison.c
> byacc: e - line 32 of
> "/tmp/libngspice_so/ngspice/src/frontend/parse-bison.y", syntax error
> %name-prefix "PP"
> ^
> Makefile:761: recipe for target 'parse-bison.c' failed
> make[2]: *** [parse-bison.c] Error 1
> make[2]: Leaving directory '/tmp/libngspice_so/ngspice/src/frontend'
> Makefile:1414: recipe for target 'all-recursive' failed
> make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
> make[1]: Leaving directory '/tmp/libngspice_so/ngspice/src'
> Makefile:494: recipe for target 'all-recursive' failed
> make: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
> *** Build failed ***
>
> so I just set -DKICAD_SPICE=OFF.
>
>
> 2) The make file seems to think the environment is MSYS2. I get this
>
> -- Check for installed GLEW -- found
> -- Boost version: 1.65.1
>  CMake Error at
> /mnt/c/msys64/mingw64/lib/oce/OCE-libraries.cmake:229 (message):
>The imported target "TKernel" references the file
>
>   "C:/msys64/mingw64/lib/libTKernel.dll.a"
>
>  but this file does not exist.
>
>
> I assume this is due to the way the make script determines if it is
> Linux or Windows.
>
>
> If I can get this working I'll document the needed commands.
>
> Thanks
>
>
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Re: [Kicad-developers] New Build Dependency

[Seth Hillbrand]

I should have the MR ready today and I'll send along the branch info.

Best-
Seth

On Mon, Aug 17, 2020 at 9:38 AM Adam Wolf 
wrote:

> I love the heads up! Thanks!
>
> Is there a sample branch I can try before it's merged into master?
>
> Adam
>
> On Mon, Aug 17, 2020 at 10:23 AM Seth Hillbrand 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Folks (Packagers especially)-
>>
>> We are adding a new build dependency to KiCad in the next few days.
>> zlib1g-dev (on debian) will be required to support stream
>> compression/decompression of model files.
>>
>> Please update your build environment to include this (if it doesn't
>> already).  The critical file for KiCad is "zlib.h" in one of the standard
>> include locations.  Let me know if you have any questions.
>>
>> Best-
>> Seth
>>
>> --
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>> +1-530-302-5483‬ <+12126039372>
>> Davis, CA
>> www.kipro-pcb.comi...@kipro-pcb.com
>>
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[Kicad-developers] Not a priority: building Kicad on Ubuntu on Windows (WSL)

[Brian Piccioni]

Hello

As I say, not a priority but I thought something I'd try. It might be 
useful to be able to build/run Kicad in WSL for testing. If it works it 
will mean people don't have to dual boot in order to test.


I have two issues:

1) NGSPICE not found. Unfortunately I cannot get the NGSPICE build 
script referenced to work. First it complained about not having yacc and 
after installing byacc I get the error


make[2]: Leaving directory '/tmp/libngspice_so/ngspice/src/maths'
Making all in frontend
make[2]: Entering directory '/tmp/libngspice_so/ngspice/src/frontend'
  YACC parse-bison.c
byacc: e - line 32 of 
"/tmp/libngspice_so/ngspice/src/frontend/parse-bison.y", syntax error

%name-prefix "PP"
^
Makefile:761: recipe for target 'parse-bison.c' failed
make[2]: *** [parse-bison.c] Error 1
make[2]: Leaving directory '/tmp/libngspice_so/ngspice/src/frontend'
Makefile:1414: recipe for target 'all-recursive' failed
make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory '/tmp/libngspice_so/ngspice/src'
Makefile:494: recipe for target 'all-recursive' failed
make: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
*** Build failed ***

so I just set -DKICAD_SPICE=OFF.


2) The make file seems to think the environment is MSYS2. I get this

-- Check for installed GLEW -- found
-- Boost version: 1.65.1
    CMake Error at 
/mnt/c/msys64/mingw64/lib/oce/OCE-libraries.cmake:229 (message):

      The imported target "TKernel" references the file

 "C:/msys64/mingw64/lib/libTKernel.dll.a"

    but this file does not exist.


I assume this is due to the way the make script determines if it is 
Linux or Windows.



If I can get this working I'll document the needed commands.

Thanks


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Re: [Kicad-developers] New Build Dependency

[Adam Wolf]

I love the heads up! Thanks!

Is there a sample branch I can try before it's merged into master?

Adam

On Mon, Aug 17, 2020 at 10:23 AM Seth Hillbrand  wrote:

> Hi Folks (Packagers especially)-
>
> We are adding a new build dependency to KiCad in the next few days.
> zlib1g-dev (on debian) will be required to support stream
> compression/decompression of model files.
>
> Please update your build environment to include this (if it doesn't
> already).  The critical file for KiCad is "zlib.h" in one of the standard
> include locations.  Let me know if you have any questions.
>
> Best-
> Seth
>
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[Kicad-developers] New Build Dependency

[Seth Hillbrand]

Hi Folks (Packagers especially)-

We are adding a new build dependency to KiCad in the next few days.
zlib1g-dev (on debian) will be required to support stream
compression/decompression of model files.

Please update your build environment to include this (if it doesn't
already).  The critical file for KiCad is "zlib.h" in one of the standard
include locations.  Let me know if you have any questions.

Best-
Seth

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Re: [Kicad-developers] Downloads storage maintenance

[Kevin Cozens]

On 2020-08-17 3:58 a.m., Maciej Suminski wrote:

I have received a message saying that a virtual machine hosting the
downloads storage might be down on 7th September between 9:00 and 12:00.


Is that AM or PM and in which time zone?

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[Kicad-developers] Downloads storage maintenance

[Maciej Suminski]

Hi,

I have received a message saying that a virtual machine hosting the
downloads storage might be down on 7th September between 9:00 and 12:00.
Most likely the break will be shorter than 30 minutes.

Cheers,
Orson

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