Re: [Kicad-developers] Was the initial graphics mode screen removed?

2022-01-12 Thread Tomasz Wlostowski

On 12/01/2022 14:24, pmx wrote:


Le 12/01/2022 à 13:32, Franck Bourdonnec a écrit :


well, my second laptop is a an old e525 acer that is more than enough 
rapid to do 'internet/video/kicad/kicad debuging...' even with 2~3 
hours for a full build.

Having it unable to run KiCad , very disapointing ;)



Funny enough (so to speak...), my main laptop mainboard just crashed and 
I'm currently back to a 2007 Hewlett-Packard laptop (15 years old!) 
running Linux.
The Nvidia GPU driver is not supported anymore by the latest X11  
(AFAIK, they dropped the DirectX9 programming interface. Have to use 
Nouveau driver + DRI / OpenGL2.1).

.
Surprisingly, I can run Freecad almost flawlessly (on not too 
complicated designs), but Eeschema is stunningly slow (for example, 
serious lag when moving components onscreen).
A positive note : a slow machine help put some parts of the code 
efficiency under the magnifying glass  !!


Do you have antialiasing enabled?





Don't partitipate to "obsolescence programmée" ("programmed trashing 
?") ?


-> AFAIK, This is "Planned Obsolescence".


Well, if someone planned it, it's not us, but Apple and MS. Under Linux 
you can at least use any version of KiCad you please (or you're free to 
hack the newest master to your needs).


Tom



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Re: [Kicad-developers] Was the initial graphics mode screen removed?

2022-01-12 Thread pmx


Le 12/01/2022 à 13:32, Franck Bourdonnec a écrit :


well, my second laptop is a an old e525 acer that is more than enough 
rapid to do 'internet/video/kicad/kicad debuging...' even with 2~3 
hours for a full build.

Having it unable to run KiCad , very disapointing ;)



Funny enough (so to speak...), my main laptop mainboard just crashed and 
I'm currently back to a 2007 Hewlett-Packard laptop (15 years old!) 
running Linux.
The Nvidia GPU driver is not supported anymore by the latest X11  
(AFAIK, they dropped the DirectX9 programming interface. Have to use 
Nouveau driver + DRI / OpenGL2.1).

.
Surprisingly, I can run Freecad almost flawlessly (on not too 
complicated designs), but Eeschema is stunningly slow (for example, 
serious lag when moving components onscreen).
A positive note : a slow machine help put some parts of the code 
efficiency under the magnifying glass  !!




Don't partitipate to "obsolescence programmée" ("programmed trashing 
?") ?


-> AFAIK, This is "Planned Obsolescence".


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Re: [Kicad-developers] Was the initial graphics mode screen removed?

2022-01-12 Thread Franck Bourdonnec

2012 : what a travel in time !

well, my second laptop is a an old e525 acer that is more than enough 
rapid to do 'internet/video/kicad/kicad debuging...' even with 2~3 hours 
for a full build.

Having it unable to run KiCad , very disapointing ;)

The other one is not much younger.

Don't partitipate to "obsolescence programmée" ("programmed trashing ?") ?


Le 12/01/2022 à 13:22, pmx a écrit :



Le 11/01/2022 à 22:57, Tomasz Wlostowski a écrit :
There's a LOT of room for improvement just by using more modern GPU 
features (and by modern I mean from 2012). 


2012 : what a travel in time !

Tomasz, thanks for the explanations.

BTW, I only worked on the schematics, this summer (for some private 
assessment of a few schematics features or UI improvements), that's why 
my remark was so inaccurate.


Pierre.

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Re: [Kicad-developers] Was the initial graphics mode screen removed?

2022-01-12 Thread pmx



Le 11/01/2022 à 22:57, Tomasz Wlostowski a écrit :
There's a LOT of room for improvement just by using more modern GPU 
features (and by modern I mean from 2012). 


2012 : what a travel in time !

Tomasz, thanks for the explanations.

BTW, I only worked on the schematics, this summer (for some private 
assessment of a few schematics features or UI improvements), that's why 
my remark was so inaccurate.


Pierre.

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