Re: [Kicad-developers] KiCad v5 build warning
On 8/4/2018 7:00 AM, Simon Richter wrote: > Hi, > > On 04.08.2018 11:53, Jeff Young wrote: > >> I thought Alexis’s strategy for the View Footprints in Symbol Chooser >> experimental feature worked well. > > That would mean: > > - new features get an option > - the option defaults to ON during development > - options that should not be released are adjusted to OFF before RC > - ideally, users are told about the change > - autobuilders don't set any feature options and just go with defaults > > Can we get that as official policy? > >Simon Please keep in mind that one of the goals is to keep the development branch of kicad as usable as possible. That is the criteria for turning on/off experimental features. If we don't keep the nightly builds usable, users will not run them which is a major setback for testing. Cheers, Wayne ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers Post to : kicad-developers@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Kicad-developers] KiCad v5 build warning
Hi, On 04.08.2018 13:03, Jeff Young wrote: > - new /experimental/ features get an option? Yes, if there is a chance it needs to be excised from a release. Simon signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers Post to : kicad-developers@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Kicad-developers] KiCad v5 build warning
Hi, On 04.08.2018 11:53, Jeff Young wrote: > I thought Alexis’s strategy for the View Footprints in Symbol Chooser > experimental feature worked well. That would mean: - new features get an option - the option defaults to ON during development - options that should not be released are adjusted to OFF before RC - ideally, users are told about the change - autobuilders don't set any feature options and just go with defaults Can we get that as official policy? Simon signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers Post to : kicad-developers@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Kicad-developers] KiCad v5 build warning
Hi Simon, I assume the first should be: - new experimental features get an option? Cheers, Jeff. > On 4 Aug 2018, at 12:00, Simon Richter wrote: > > Hi, > > On 04.08.2018 11:53, Jeff Young wrote: > >> I thought Alexis’s strategy for the View Footprints in Symbol Chooser >> experimental feature worked well. > > That would mean: > > - new features get an option > - the option defaults to ON during development > - options that should not be released are adjusted to OFF before RC > - ideally, users are told about the change > - autobuilders don't set any feature options and just go with defaults > > Can we get that as official policy? > > Simon > ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers Post to : kicad-developers@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Kicad-developers] KiCad v5 build warning
I thought Alexis’s strategy for the View Footprints in Symbol Chooser experimental feature worked well. IIRC, she added a preference just before RC1 and changed the default from “on” to “off”. Cheers, Jeff. > On 3 Aug 2018, at 22:22, Simon Richter wrote: > > Hi, > > On 03.08.2018 06:06, Adam Wolf wrote: > >> It works fine with macOS, and I've already enabled it for nightlies. > > It has also been active for Windows nightlies for quite some time, so > people were confused when it was suddenly off in the release version. > > So in addition to a decision on the action menu, we need a general > strategy for experimental features around release time. > > Should we: > > - always build nightlies with default settings (experimental features > get less testing) > - always build nightlies with all features (people will miss features > from the release) > - switch over from "all features" to "defaults" with the first release > candidate > - build nightlies with all features, but release candidates with default > - ??? > > Simon > > ___ > Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers > Post to : kicad-developers@lists.launchpad.net > Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers > More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers Post to : kicad-developers@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Kicad-developers] KiCad v5 build warning
Hi, On 03.08.2018 06:06, Adam Wolf wrote: > It works fine with macOS, and I've already enabled it for nightlies. It has also been active for Windows nightlies for quite some time, so people were confused when it was suddenly off in the release version. So in addition to a decision on the action menu, we need a general strategy for experimental features around release time. Should we: - always build nightlies with default settings (experimental features get less testing) - always build nightlies with all features (people will miss features from the release) - switch over from "all features" to "defaults" with the first release candidate - build nightlies with all features, but release candidates with default - ??? Simon signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers Post to : kicad-developers@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Kicad-developers] KiCad v5 build warning
It works fine with macOS, and I've already enabled it for nightlies. On Thu, Aug 2, 2018 at 10:32 PM Seth Hillbrand wrote: > > I'd second Nick's suggestion. Any objections to enabling it by default for > 5.0.1? > > -S > > Am Do., 2. Aug. 2018 um 08:03 Uhr schrieb Nick Østergaard : >> >> Hello >> >> It may be off by default, but should we enable it by default? I think >> yes. It has been discussed briefly here and there. >> >> If we like it in the 5.0 builds I propose we set it as default on on >> the 5.0 branch now. >> >> Nick >> Den man. 23. jul. 2018 kl. 05.48 skrev Seth Hillbrand : >> > >> > Hi Devs- >> > >> > Quick heads up for those of us packaging KiCad for our distros: >> > >> > KICAD_SCRIPTING_ACTION_MENU is OFF by default. You may need to explicitly >> > enable it in your builds. >> > >> > -S >> > >> > ___ >> > Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers >> > Post to : kicad-developers@lists.launchpad.net >> > Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers >> > More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp > > ___ > Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers > Post to : kicad-developers@lists.launchpad.net > Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers > More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers Post to : kicad-developers@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Kicad-developers] KiCad v5 build warning
Hello It may be off by default, but should we enable it by default? I think yes. It has been discussed briefly here and there. If we like it in the 5.0 builds I propose we set it as default on on the 5.0 branch now. Nick Den man. 23. jul. 2018 kl. 05.48 skrev Seth Hillbrand : > > Hi Devs- > > Quick heads up for those of us packaging KiCad for our distros: > > KICAD_SCRIPTING_ACTION_MENU is OFF by default. You may need to explicitly > enable it in your builds. > > -S > > ___ > Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers > Post to : kicad-developers@lists.launchpad.net > Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers > More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers Post to : kicad-developers@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Kicad-developers] KiCad v5 build warning
I'd second Nick's suggestion. Any objections to enabling it by default for 5.0.1? -S Am Do., 2. Aug. 2018 um 08:03 Uhr schrieb Nick Østergaard : > Hello > > It may be off by default, but should we enable it by default? I think > yes. It has been discussed briefly here and there. > > If we like it in the 5.0 builds I propose we set it as default on on > the 5.0 branch now. > > Nick > Den man. 23. jul. 2018 kl. 05.48 skrev Seth Hillbrand >: > > > > Hi Devs- > > > > Quick heads up for those of us packaging KiCad for our distros: > > > > KICAD_SCRIPTING_ACTION_MENU is OFF by default. You may need to > explicitly enable it in your builds. > > > > -S > > > > ___ > > Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers > > Post to : kicad-developers@lists.launchpad.net > > Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers > > More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp > ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers Post to : kicad-developers@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Kicad-developers] KiCad v5 build warning
Hi Devs- Quick heads up for those of us packaging KiCad for our distros: KICAD_SCRIPTING_ACTION_MENU is OFF by default. You may need to explicitly enable it in your builds. -S ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers Post to : kicad-developers@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
