Re: [Kicad-developers] hotkeys behaviour changed recently?
Hi Tom, Yes, that’s the one. Appears I got a via shoving a via to work, but not when a track shoves a via which then tries to shove a track. Cheers, Jeff. PS the preference stuff is more-or-less done, I just have to figure out how to disentangle a circular include. > On 25 Jul 2019, at 03:15, Tomasz Wlostowski wrote: > > On 24/07/2019 19:28, Jeff Young wrote: >> Hi Tom, >> >> I’ll implement the preference if you’ll review my latest via push-n-shove >> stuff. ;) >> > Hi Jeff, > > Sure - do you mean the stitching via pushing patch? I can also help with > the hotkey action preference. > > Cheers, > Tom ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers Post to : kicad-developers@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Kicad-developers] hotkeys behaviour changed recently?
Hi Wayne, I could make another run at it, but the first two implementations that didn’t work out were based on twin actions. I then gave up on them. Cheers, Jeff. > On 25 Jul 2019, at 07:32, Wayne Stambaugh wrote: > > On 7/25/19 5:15 AM, Tomasz Wlostowski wrote: >> On 24/07/2019 19:28, Jeff Young wrote: >>> Hi Tom, >>> >>> I’ll implement the preference if you’ll review my latest via push-n-shove >>> stuff. ;) >>> >> Hi Jeff, >> >> Sure - do you mean the stitching via pushing patch? I can also help with >> the hotkey action preference. >> >> Cheers, >> Tom >> > > I'm still thinking we should have separate keys for immediate and select > tool (menu accelerator) modes. My reasoning is that the menu > accelerator keys shown in the menus do no match the actual action > performed. In other words selecting the Place->Wire menu entry shows > the menu accelerator key as 'W' but pressing the 'W' key is not the same > behavior as selecting the menu entry which is how menu accelerators > behave in every other application. Something like 'Ctrl+W` should be > used as the menu accelerator key and 'W' should be the immediate action > key (hotkey). I think the option is going to be confusing when it's set > to immediate mode. > > Cheers, > > Wayne ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers Post to : kicad-developers@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Kicad-developers] hotkeys behaviour changed recently?
On 7/25/19 5:15 AM, Tomasz Wlostowski wrote: > On 24/07/2019 19:28, Jeff Young wrote: >> Hi Tom, >> >> I’ll implement the preference if you’ll review my latest via push-n-shove >> stuff. ;) >> > Hi Jeff, > > Sure - do you mean the stitching via pushing patch? I can also help with > the hotkey action preference. > > Cheers, > Tom > I'm still thinking we should have separate keys for immediate and select tool (menu accelerator) modes. My reasoning is that the menu accelerator keys shown in the menus do no match the actual action performed. In other words selecting the Place->Wire menu entry shows the menu accelerator key as 'W' but pressing the 'W' key is not the same behavior as selecting the menu entry which is how menu accelerators behave in every other application. Something like 'Ctrl+W` should be used as the menu accelerator key and 'W' should be the immediate action key (hotkey). I think the option is going to be confusing when it's set to immediate mode. Cheers, Wayne ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers Post to : kicad-developers@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Kicad-developers] hotkeys behaviour changed recently?
On 24/07/2019 19:28, Jeff Young wrote: > Hi Tom, > > I’ll implement the preference if you’ll review my latest via push-n-shove > stuff. ;) > Hi Jeff, Sure - do you mean the stitching via pushing patch? I can also help with the hotkey action preference. Cheers, Tom ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers Post to : kicad-developers@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Kicad-developers] hotkeys behaviour changed recently?
Hi Tom, I’ll implement the preference if you’ll review my latest via push-n-shove stuff. ;) Cheers, Jeff. > On 24 Jul 2019, at 10:45, Wayne Stambaugh wrote: > > At least it is now consistent with the behavior of the other tools. > Once the option to choose immediate versus enable tool behavior is > implemented, everyone will be happy ;) > > On 7/24/2019 12:39 PM, Jeff Young wrote: >> Oh god, the feature from hell. It took me so many iterations to get the >> immediate mode to work that the preference fell off the radar. >> >> >>> On 24 Jul 2019, at 09:04, Tomasz Wlostowski >>> wrote: >>> >>> Hi Devs, >>> >>> I built today's master and to my surprise, pressing 'X' in pcbnew starts >>> immediately drawing a trace under the cursor, something I don't like >>> very much. Was this change accompanied by the (promised) option to >>> select between immediate action/activate tool behaviour of hotkeys >>> somewhere in the Preferences? >>> >>> Tom >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers >>> Post to : kicad-developers@lists.launchpad.net >>> Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers >>> More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp >> >> >> ___ >> Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers >> Post to : kicad-developers@lists.launchpad.net >> Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers >> More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp >> > > ___ > Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers > Post to : kicad-developers@lists.launchpad.net > Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers > More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers Post to : kicad-developers@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Kicad-developers] hotkeys behaviour changed recently?
At least it is now consistent with the behavior of the other tools. Once the option to choose immediate versus enable tool behavior is implemented, everyone will be happy ;) On 7/24/2019 12:39 PM, Jeff Young wrote: > Oh god, the feature from hell. It took me so many iterations to get the > immediate mode to work that the preference fell off the radar. > > >> On 24 Jul 2019, at 09:04, Tomasz Wlostowski >> wrote: >> >> Hi Devs, >> >> I built today's master and to my surprise, pressing 'X' in pcbnew starts >> immediately drawing a trace under the cursor, something I don't like >> very much. Was this change accompanied by the (promised) option to >> select between immediate action/activate tool behaviour of hotkeys >> somewhere in the Preferences? >> >> Tom >> >> >> ___ >> Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers >> Post to : kicad-developers@lists.launchpad.net >> Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers >> More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp > > > ___ > Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers > Post to : kicad-developers@lists.launchpad.net > Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers > More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp > ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers Post to : kicad-developers@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Kicad-developers] hotkeys behaviour changed recently?
Oh god, the feature from hell. It took me so many iterations to get the immediate mode to work that the preference fell off the radar. > On 24 Jul 2019, at 09:04, Tomasz Wlostowski wrote: > > Hi Devs, > > I built today's master and to my surprise, pressing 'X' in pcbnew starts > immediately drawing a trace under the cursor, something I don't like > very much. Was this change accompanied by the (promised) option to > select between immediate action/activate tool behaviour of hotkeys > somewhere in the Preferences? > > Tom > > > ___ > Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers > Post to : kicad-developers@lists.launchpad.net > Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers > More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers Post to : kicad-developers@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Kicad-developers] hotkeys behaviour changed recently?
Hi Devs, I built today's master and to my surprise, pressing 'X' in pcbnew starts immediately drawing a trace under the cursor, something I don't like very much. Was this change accompanied by the (promised) option to select between immediate action/activate tool behaviour of hotkeys somewhere in the Preferences? Tom ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers Post to : kicad-developers@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
