Re: [Kicad-developers] new macos requirements, could use some help

2019-04-15 Thread Adam Wolf
I'm really, really not pleased with the timing of it.  They announced
it 7 days ago, and it will be in effect as soon as 10.14.5 is
released, which is in *second beta* already.

I'm certain they'll have some special place you can say "whitelist
this software" but honestly there are 2 instructions users have to
follow already to install our software already, and we get a bug
report every few weeks from someone who didn't follow one of those.
I'm not excited to add to that list (until we can follow their
process, which may not be bad at all.

Combined with the Homebrew dependency change, this means that I gotta
pick between getting nightlies working again with the homebrew issue,
the next stable out the door, or getting ready for notarization.

(My current working order of priorities is stable release,
notarization, and then nightlies.)

Adam



On Mon, Apr 15, 2019 at 8:13 AM Mark Roszko  wrote:
>
> Yes.
>
> They basically require software submission which then results in a signature 
> when it passes an anti virus check. They aren't so far planning on enforcing 
> arbitrary approval rules like the app store but we'll see.
>
> But it's basically Apple avoiding the install of local antiviruses on 
> machines. That would hurt their marketing and brand image.
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 15, 2019 at 9:08 AM Tomasz Wlostowski  
> wrote:
>>
>> On 13/04/2019 22:57, Adam Wolf wrote:
>> > Oh, that's what I get for trying to post from my phone...
>> >
>> > I forgot the link, and without it, my post seems super ominous!  Sorry
>> > about that!
>> >
>> > https://developer.apple.com/news/?id=04102019a
>>
>> So does this mean we can't distribute our software anymore without
>> Apple's cryptographical blessing?
>>
>> Tom
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Re: [Kicad-developers] new macos requirements, could use some help

2019-04-15 Thread Mark Roszko
Yes.

They basically require software submission which then results in a
signature when it passes an anti virus check. They aren't so far planning
on enforcing arbitrary approval rules like the app store but we'll see.

But it's basically Apple avoiding the install of local antiviruses on
machines. That would hurt their marketing and brand image.




On Mon, Apr 15, 2019 at 9:08 AM Tomasz Wlostowski 
wrote:

> On 13/04/2019 22:57, Adam Wolf wrote:
> > Oh, that's what I get for trying to post from my phone...
> >
> > I forgot the link, and without it, my post seems super ominous!  Sorry
> > about that!
> >
> > https://developer.apple.com/news/?id=04102019a
>
> So does this mean we can't distribute our software anymore without
> Apple's cryptographical blessing?
>
> Tom
>
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Re: [Kicad-developers] new macos requirements, could use some help

2019-04-15 Thread Tomasz Wlostowski
On 13/04/2019 22:57, Adam Wolf wrote:
> Oh, that's what I get for trying to post from my phone...
> 
> I forgot the link, and without it, my post seems super ominous!  Sorry
> about that!
> 
> https://developer.apple.com/news/?id=04102019a

So does this mean we can't distribute our software anymore without
Apple's cryptographical blessing?

Tom

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Re: [Kicad-developers] new macos requirements, could use some help

2019-04-15 Thread Richard Tobias
Hi,

I would be interested as well. 


Richard

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> On Apr 13, 2019, at 10:28 PM, Joe Rozner  wrote:
> 
> I’d be interested in helping out.
> 
>> On Apr 13, 2019, at 13:57, Adam Wolf  wrote:
>> 
>> Oh, that's what I get for trying to post from my phone...
>> 
>> I forgot the link, and without it, my post seems super ominous!  Sorry
>> about that!
>> 
>> https://developer.apple.com/news/?id=04102019a
>> 
>> Adam
>> 
>>> On Fri, Apr 12, 2019 at 8:25 AM Adam Wolf  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi folks!
>>> 
>>> Some interesting news... I need to dig into it to figure out what it
>>> means, but lemme know if anyone else wants to learn the ins and out of
>>> Mac packaging.
>>> 
>>> I am not planning on quitting or anything, but I am at my limit of
>>> time maintaining what we have and working towards Python 3 for v6 for
>>> macOS.  I do not think I will be able to keep up in the near future.
>>> 
>>> Adam Wolf
>> 
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Re: [Kicad-developers] new macos requirements, could use some help

2019-04-13 Thread Joe Rozner
I’d be interested in helping out.

> On Apr 13, 2019, at 13:57, Adam Wolf  wrote:
> 
> Oh, that's what I get for trying to post from my phone...
> 
> I forgot the link, and without it, my post seems super ominous!  Sorry
> about that!
> 
> https://developer.apple.com/news/?id=04102019a
> 
> Adam
> 
>> On Fri, Apr 12, 2019 at 8:25 AM Adam Wolf  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi folks!
>> 
>> Some interesting news... I need to dig into it to figure out what it
>> means, but lemme know if anyone else wants to learn the ins and out of
>> Mac packaging.
>> 
>> I am not planning on quitting or anything, but I am at my limit of
>> time maintaining what we have and working towards Python 3 for v6 for
>> macOS.  I do not think I will be able to keep up in the near future.
>> 
>> Adam Wolf
> 
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Re: [Kicad-developers] new macos requirements, could use some help

2019-04-13 Thread Adam Wolf
Oh, that's what I get for trying to post from my phone...

I forgot the link, and without it, my post seems super ominous!  Sorry
about that!

https://developer.apple.com/news/?id=04102019a

Adam

On Fri, Apr 12, 2019 at 8:25 AM Adam Wolf  wrote:
>
> Hi folks!
>
> Some interesting news... I need to dig into it to figure out what it
> means, but lemme know if anyone else wants to learn the ins and out of
> Mac packaging.
>
> I am not planning on quitting or anything, but I am at my limit of
> time maintaining what we have and working towards Python 3 for v6 for
> macOS.  I do not think I will be able to keep up in the near future.
>
> Adam Wolf

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[Kicad-developers] new macos requirements, could use some help

2019-04-12 Thread Adam Wolf
Hi folks!

Some interesting news... I need to dig into it to figure out what it
means, but lemme know if anyone else wants to learn the ins and out of
Mac packaging.

I am not planning on quitting or anything, but I am at my limit of
time maintaining what we have and working towards Python 3 for v6 for
macOS.  I do not think I will be able to keep up in the near future.

Adam Wolf

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