Re: [Kicad-developers] kicad promotion in help menu

[Cirilo Bernardo]

On Thu, Oct 6, 2016 at 11:40 PM, Wayne Stambaugh  wrote:
>
> On 10/6/2016 3:23 AM, Chris Pavlina wrote:
>> On Thu, Oct 06, 2016 at 08:51:54AM +0200, jp charras wrote:
>>> Le 06/10/2016 à 08:13, Cirilo Bernardo a écrit :
 Hi folks,

  Any comments on this patch I proposed a few weeks ago?

 https://lists.launchpad.net/kicad-developers/msg26412.html

 The patch adds a menu item in the main menu Help list to launch the
 system's default browser and bring up the "Contribute to KiCad" page
 (http://kicad-pcb.org/contribute/).  The idea is to promote awareness
 of how users can get involved, whether it's helping with documentation,
 libraries, etc.  I think we have a great little group at the moment, but
 more experts helping out or new users learning about the internals of
 the software is always better. :)


 - Cirilo
>>>
>
> @Cirilo, I didn't forget about it I've just been really busy.  I will
> try to get to it this weekend.
>

Thanks, I understand; I've been far too busy recently to work on the other
items I'd promised to look at like the generic progress dialog for external
apps.

- Cirilo

>>> To be honest, if I like the idea, I am not thrilled by this (large?) patch.
>>> A link in our About Kicad dialog (Information panel) could be better (only 
>>> 2 lines of code to add).
>>> On this Information panel (the default panel when opening the dialog) there 
>>> are already the most
>>> important links.
>>
>> As we discussed with Wayne on IRC a while ago, nobody will ever see it
>> there.
>
> AFAIR I suggested adding this link to the about dialog as well but I
> don't really have a strong opinion one way or the other.  Cirilo is
> correct that it could get lost along with all of the other information
> in the about dialog.
>
>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: [Kicad-developers] kicad promotion in help menu

[Javier Serrano]

On Thu, Oct 6, 2016 at 2:40 PM, Wayne Stambaugh 
wrote:

>
> On 10/6/2016 3:23 AM, Chris Pavlina wrote:
> > On Thu, Oct 06, 2016 at 08:51:54AM +0200, jp charras wrote:
> >> Le 06/10/2016 à 08:13, Cirilo Bernardo a écrit :
> >>> Hi folks,
> >>>
> >>>  Any comments on this patch I proposed a few weeks ago?
> >>>
> >>> https://lists.launchpad.net/kicad-developers/msg26412.html
> >>>
> >>> The patch adds a menu item in the main menu Help list to launch the
> >>> system's default browser and bring up the "Contribute to KiCad" page
> >>> (http://kicad-pcb.org/contribute/).  The idea is to promote awareness
> >>> of how users can get involved, whether it's helping with documentation,
> >>> libraries, etc.  I think we have a great little group at the moment,
> but
> >>> more experts helping out or new users learning about the internals of
> >>> the software is always better. :)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> - Cirilo
> >>
>
> @Cirilo, I didn't forget about it I've just been really busy.  I will
> try to get to it this weekend.
>

Reminder and shameless plug for a short newsletter piece just published by
the people of the CERN & Society Foundation:

https://giving.web.cern.ch/content/kicad-development-1

Please help spread the word through your favourite channels.

Thanks!

Javier
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Re: [Kicad-developers] kicad promotion in help menu

[Marco Ciampa]

On Thu, Oct 06, 2016 at 06:34:34PM +1100, Cirilo Bernardo wrote:
> I think the main reason the patch is that size is that I had to touch
> quite a few files to add the help item to the many different Help menus
> (eeschema, schematic symbol editor, footprint editor, pcbnew, etc). I think
> the About dialog is so full of information now that people will miss the
> link if we put it there.  Adding the actual menu item in each different
> Help menu and the wxWidgets code to run the browser are actually
> only a very few lines. I suggested adding an item to the About dialog at
> one stage but many of our current contributors told me that they thought
> it wasn't the best thing to do.

Sorry for being so "naive", you see I am not a dev... but I am wondering
if it could spare some code using an unique "about" or help dialog and dialog
code across all KiCad apps...

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Re: [Kicad-developers] kicad promotion in help menu

[Wayne Stambaugh]

On 10/6/2016 3:23 AM, Chris Pavlina wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 06, 2016 at 08:51:54AM +0200, jp charras wrote:
>> Le 06/10/2016 à 08:13, Cirilo Bernardo a écrit :
>>> Hi folks,
>>>
>>>  Any comments on this patch I proposed a few weeks ago?
>>>
>>> https://lists.launchpad.net/kicad-developers/msg26412.html
>>>
>>> The patch adds a menu item in the main menu Help list to launch the
>>> system's default browser and bring up the "Contribute to KiCad" page
>>> (http://kicad-pcb.org/contribute/).  The idea is to promote awareness
>>> of how users can get involved, whether it's helping with documentation,
>>> libraries, etc.  I think we have a great little group at the moment, but
>>> more experts helping out or new users learning about the internals of
>>> the software is always better. :)
>>>
>>>
>>> - Cirilo
>>

@Cirilo, I didn't forget about it I've just been really busy.  I will
try to get to it this weekend.

>> To be honest, if I like the idea, I am not thrilled by this (large?) patch.
>> A link in our About Kicad dialog (Information panel) could be better (only 2 
>> lines of code to add).
>> On this Information panel (the default panel when opening the dialog) there 
>> are already the most
>> important links.
> 
> As we discussed with Wayne on IRC a while ago, nobody will ever see it
> there.

AFAIR I suggested adding this link to the about dialog as well but I
don't really have a strong opinion one way or the other.  Cirilo is
correct that it could get lost along with all of the other information
in the about dialog.

> 
>>
>>
>> -- 
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Re: [Kicad-developers] kicad promotion in help menu

[Cirilo Bernardo]

On Thu, Oct 6, 2016 at 5:51 PM, jp charras  wrote:
> Le 06/10/2016 à 08:13, Cirilo Bernardo a écrit :
>> Hi folks,
>>
>>  Any comments on this patch I proposed a few weeks ago?
>>
>> https://lists.launchpad.net/kicad-developers/msg26412.html
>>
>> The patch adds a menu item in the main menu Help list to launch the
>> system's default browser and bring up the "Contribute to KiCad" page
>> (http://kicad-pcb.org/contribute/).  The idea is to promote awareness
>> of how users can get involved, whether it's helping with documentation,
>> libraries, etc.  I think we have a great little group at the moment, but
>> more experts helping out or new users learning about the internals of
>> the software is always better. :)
>>
>>
>> - Cirilo
>
> To be honest, if I like the idea, I am not thrilled by this (large?) patch.
> A link in our About Kicad dialog (Information panel) could be better (only 2 
> lines of code to add).
> On this Information panel (the default panel when opening the dialog) there 
> are already the most
> important links.
>
>
> --
> Jean-Pierre CHARRAS
>

I think the main reason the patch is that size is that I had to touch
quite a few files to add the help item to the many different Help menus
(eeschema, schematic symbol editor, footprint editor, pcbnew, etc). I think
the About dialog is so full of information now that people will miss the
link if we put it there.  Adding the actual menu item in each different
Help menu and the wxWidgets code to run the browser are actually
only a very few lines. I suggested adding an item to the About dialog at
one stage but many of our current contributors told me that they thought
it wasn't the best thing to do.

- Cirilo


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Re: [Kicad-developers] kicad promotion in help menu

[jp charras]

Le 06/10/2016 à 08:13, Cirilo Bernardo a écrit :
> Hi folks,
> 
>  Any comments on this patch I proposed a few weeks ago?
> 
> https://lists.launchpad.net/kicad-developers/msg26412.html
> 
> The patch adds a menu item in the main menu Help list to launch the
> system's default browser and bring up the "Contribute to KiCad" page
> (http://kicad-pcb.org/contribute/).  The idea is to promote awareness
> of how users can get involved, whether it's helping with documentation,
> libraries, etc.  I think we have a great little group at the moment, but
> more experts helping out or new users learning about the internals of
> the software is always better. :)
> 
> 
> - Cirilo

To be honest, if I like the idea, I am not thrilled by this (large?) patch.
A link in our About Kicad dialog (Information panel) could be better (only 2 
lines of code to add).
On this Information panel (the default panel when opening the dialog) there are 
already the most
important links.


-- 
Jean-Pierre CHARRAS

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Re: [Kicad-developers] kicad promotion in help menu

[Tomasz Wlostowski]

On 06.10.2016 08:13, Cirilo Bernardo wrote:
> Hi folks,
> 
>  Any comments on this patch I proposed a few weeks ago?
> 
> https://lists.launchpad.net/kicad-developers/msg26412.html
> 
> The patch adds a menu item in the main menu Help list to launch the
> system's default browser and bring up the "Contribute to KiCad" page

I'm in for it! ;-)

Tom

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Re: [Kicad-developers] kicad promotion in help menu

[Cirilo Bernardo]

Hi folks,

 Any comments on this patch I proposed a few weeks ago?

https://lists.launchpad.net/kicad-developers/msg26412.html

The patch adds a menu item in the main menu Help list to launch the
system's default browser and bring up the "Contribute to KiCad" page
(http://kicad-pcb.org/contribute/).  The idea is to promote awareness
of how users can get involved, whether it's helping with documentation,
libraries, etc.  I think we have a great little group at the moment, but
more experts helping out or new users learning about the internals of
the software is always better. :)


- Cirilo

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