[kicad-users]Re: How to make little holes in the pads centers printing from Gerbview?

2008-02-22 Thread Vladimir Kalyaev
Subject: [kicad-users] Re: How to make little holes in the pads centers 
printing from Gerbview?

If I'm not mistaken Print prints out FULL-SIZED holes, not SMALL centering 
hole! 
Other explanations: for .6-8mm drill open area should be 0.2-0.3mm.
For 0.8mm thru-hole element a drill open area produced by Print command 
equals to the drill diameter. I think it's impossible to use 0.8mm open area 
for centering a 0.8mm drill!

In OrCAD there is an option keep drill holes open which produces a same-sized 
holes for each thru-hole element.
I can write a script for overruding every thru-hole padshape to force a Print 
command work correctly. Is it an only way?

Excuse me for my bad english...

 It's used during manual board making for centering a drill.

For home-made boards, rather than using the plot command to create 

gerbers, use the print command and print exact 1:1 for each layer. 

That way the layers print as they appear on the screen with the 

correct width and with open holes in the pads.




  

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Re: [kicad-users]Re: How to make little holes in the pads centers printing from Gerbview?

2008-02-22 Thread Juan Franco

--- Vladimir Kalyaev [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Subject: [kicad-users] Re: How to make little holes
 in the pads centers printing from Gerbview?
 
 If I'm not mistaken Print prints out FULL-SIZED
 holes, not SMALL centering hole! 
 Other explanations: for .6-8mm drill open area
 should be 0.2-0.3mm.
 For 0.8mm thru-hole element a drill open area
 produced by Print command equals to the drill
 diameter. I think it's impossible to use 0.8mm open
 area for centering a 0.8mm drill!

Hi Vladimir,
You can also plot your board to a PostScript file. In
the plot dialogue there is an option to plot drill
holes as Real Size, Small Marks or none.
If you don't have a PostScript viewing software you
may need to install GhostScript + viewer
Regards,
Juan


  

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[kicad-users] KICAD gerber problems - tracks

2008-02-22 Thread moomoo67
Hi, i'm fairly new to kicad and working my way through but i can't
seem to get my tracks to render/print correctly from the gerber file.

I'll try to explain. At any corner of a track a gap is present.

This image shows it

http://bp3.blogger.com/_P9dAsDlNu1A/R77W8X36n7I/ABc/kt_sWXshgG8/s1600/error

Those are 1mm tracks but are also present in smaller ones too.

What am i doing wrong?



Re: [kicad-users]Re: How to make little holes in the pads centers printing from Gerbview?

2008-02-22 Thread Alain M.


Vladimir Kalyaev escreveu:
If I'm not mistaken Print prints out FULL-SIZED holes, not SMALL 
centering hole!

Other explanations: for .6-8mm drill open area should be 0.2-0.3mm.
For 0.8mm thru-hole element a drill open area produced by Print 
command equals to the drill diameter. I think it's impossible to use 
0.8mm open area for centering a 0.8mm drill!
I did some tests (some years ago) and I finaly settled that holes *half 
the real size* are ideal. That is because dril centers are bigger for 
bigger drills, if you have a .8mm center for a 3.2mm hole it is just 
useless. What I used to do was to define all my pads with half the real 
diameter and fix that in the docs acompanying the drill file...


Alain
In OrCAD there is an option keep drill holes open which produces a 
same-sized holes for each thru-hole element.
I can write a script for overruding every thru-hole padshape to force 
a Print command work correctly. Is it an only way?
Just the same, a script could be made to fix that and generate the print 
file. On option could interest some people...


Alain



Re: [kicad-users]Re: How to make little holes in the pads centers printing from Gerbview?

2008-02-22 Thread KeepIt SimpleStupid
That's an excellent idea and so is the pilot drill
size.  I leared that from a machinist although he
would use something like 1/3.


--- Alain M. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 Vladimir Kalyaev escreveu:
  If I'm not mistaken Print prints out FULL-SIZED
 holes, not SMALL 
  centering hole!
  Other explanations: for .6-8mm drill open area
 should be 0.2-0.3mm.
  For 0.8mm thru-hole element a drill open area
 produced by Print 
  command equals to the drill diameter. I think it's
 impossible to use 
  0.8mm open area for centering a 0.8mm drill!
 I did some tests (some years ago) and I finaly
 settled that holes *half 
 the real size* are ideal. That is because dril
 centers are bigger for 
 bigger drills, if you have a .8mm center for a 3.2mm
 hole it is just 
 useless. What I used to do was to define all my pads
 with half the real 
 diameter and fix that in the docs acompanying the
 drill file...
 
 Alain
  In OrCAD there is an option keep drill holes
 open which produces a 
  same-sized holes for each thru-hole element.
  I can write a script for overruding every
 thru-hole padshape to force 
  a Print command work correctly. Is it an only
 way?
 Just the same, a script could be made to fix that
 and generate the print 
 file. On option could interest some people...
 
 Alain
 
 



  

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[kicad-users] Re: KICAD gerber problems - tracks

2008-02-22 Thread deaninkc
I'm new too but mine prints fine. Can't get to your link, says
forbidden you don't have permission. Does it print OK from the
normal print in pcbnew? You could try downloading a gerber utility
like Viewplot and see if it looks correct in it. Does it look correct
in print preview in Gerberview? Also make sure you use the Accurate
scale option when printing.

--- In kicad-users@yahoogroups.com, moomoo67 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi, i'm fairly new to kicad and working my way through but i can't
 seem to get my tracks to render/print correctly from the gerber file.
 
 I'll try to explain. At any corner of a track a gap is present.
 
 This image shows it
 

http://bp3.blogger.com/_P9dAsDlNu1A/R77W8X36n7I/ABc/kt_sWXshgG8/s1600/error
 
 Those are 1mm tracks but are also present in smaller ones too.
 
 What am i doing wrong?