[kicad-users] Re: Creating new module library

2009-03-11 Thread yamamaya_com
Hi, Andy

Thank you for your advice.
It went well!

- Mao

--- In kicad-users@yahoogroups.com, Andy Eskelson  wrote:
>
> You have to add your lib in order for the program to find your module.
> 
> main menu bar> preferences>library
> 
> select add, find your lib and save config.
> 
> If you have the normal setup, then the save wil;l be local to your
> project. If you want the lib to be accessed every time then the main
> config file kicad.pro can be updated. Ithink that lives somewhere
> in /kicad/templates, but I might be wrong on that.
> 
> 
> You have to do a similar operation to include any lib you have created
> for new parts so that eeschema can find them.
> 
> Andy





Re: [kicad-users] Re: Fiducilas

2009-03-11 Thread Pedro Martin
Hi all,

My fiducials are smd modules with only 1 round pin.
There are added into pcbnew from add module on the rigth menu.
They are not in the netlist. When creating a zone they are avoided.

Try and see how it works.

Pedro.


> On Tuesday 10 March 2009 23:37:16 oecherexpat wrote:
> > Hi Dan,
> >
> > > When designing the ring, see to that it is "connected" to an unused
> > > component part. This way, the zone filler will avoid it.
> >
> > You mean like a pad? How can I connect it to a signal? It is not a pad but
> > just a "drawing" on the copper layer so Kicad wouldn't let me connect it 
to
> > a signal. Originally, I was thinking of just adding another pad but it 
must
> > be a ring and the only way to do this from what I can see is to have a 
hole
> > in the middle :-(
> >
> > Cheers,  Heiko
> 
> If you DON'T want to connect it, fine - but you still need to define it for 
zone 
> filler to avoid it.
> 
> If you DO need to connect it, either turn off the design rule check - or do 
it 
> as it should be done: Design  it as a pad with a connection on your 
component. 
> If you don't want/need a connection, "invent" a "dummy" connection in the 
> library/module editor for you component.
> 
> 
> 
> Trust me! ( I'm not a doctor )
> 
> If you start tweaking the design checks and do a lot of workarounds, it 
> WILL(!) come back and bite you in the proverbial rectum!
> 
> If you run into a small problem like this, solve it the right way - it takes 
> the same amount of time doing it correct compared to the time spent on a 
> tweak.
> 
> Finally, use KiCad, don't fight it!
> 
> //Dan, M0DFI
>



Re: [kicad-users] Creating new module library

2009-03-11 Thread Andy Eskelson
You have to add your lib in order for the program to find your module.

main menu bar> preferences>library

select add, find your lib and save config.

If you have the normal setup, then the save wil;l be local to your
project. If you want the lib to be accessed every time then the main
config file kicad.pro can be updated. Ithink that lives somewhere
in /kicad/templates, but I might be wrong on that.


You have to do a similar operation to include any lib you have created
for new parts so that eeschema can find them.

Andy



On Wed, 11 Mar 2009 03:57:14 -
"yamamaya_com"  wrote:

> Hi all,
> 
> How can I use new module at PCBnew?
> I made new module by module editor, and save it as "hybrid-modules.mod" by 
> "Create new library and save current module" command. I can find the library 
> file in my "share/modules" directory, but how can I use the module at PCBnew? 
> I cannot find it in module list. Also, I cannot find the library by module 
> editor.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Please read the Kicad FAQ in the group files section before posting your 
> question.
> Please post your bug reports here. They will be picked up by the creator of 
> Kicad.
> Please visit http://www.kicadlib.org for details of how to contribute your 
> symbols/modules to the kicad library.
> For building Kicad from source and other development questions visit the 
> kicad-devel group at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/kicad-develYahoo! Groups 
> Links
> 
> 
> 


Re: [kicad-users] Re: Fiducilas

2009-03-11 Thread Dan Andersson
On Tuesday 10 March 2009 23:37:16 oecherexpat wrote:
> Hi Dan,
>
> > When designing the ring, see to that it is "connected" to an unused
> > component part. This way, the zone filler will avoid it.
>
> You mean like a pad? How can I connect it to a signal? It is not a pad but
> just a "drawing" on the copper layer so Kicad wouldn't let me connect it to
> a signal. Originally, I was thinking of just adding another pad but it must
> be a ring and the only way to do this from what I can see is to have a hole
> in the middle :-(
>
> Cheers,  Heiko

If you DON'T want to connect it, fine - but you still need to define it for 
zone 
filler to avoid it.

If you DO need to connect it, either turn off the design rule check - or do it 
as it should be done: Design  it as a pad with a connection on your component. 
If you don't want/need a connection, "invent" a "dummy" connection in the 
library/module editor for you component.



Trust me! ( I'm not a doctor )

If you start tweaking the design checks and do a lot of workarounds, it 
WILL(!) come back and bite you in the proverbial rectum!

If you run into a small problem like this, solve it the right way - it takes 
the same amount of time doing it correct compared to the time spent on a 
tweak.

Finally, use KiCad, don't fight it!

//Dan, M0DFI


Re: [kicad-users] Re: Fiducilas

2009-03-11 Thread Robert
>> When designing the ring, see to that it is "connected" to an unused 
>> component 
>> part. This way, the zone filler will avoid it.
> 
> You mean like a pad? How can I connect it to a signal? It is not a pad but 
> just a "drawing" on the copper layer so Kicad wouldn't let me connect it to a 
> signal.
> Originally, I was thinking of just adding another pad but it must be a ring 
> and the only way to do this from what I can see is to have a hole in the 
> middle :-(

I'm wondering how critical are some of these requirements.   My 
fiducials are just unconnected round pads with no holes, and they seem 
to be acceptable.   Sometimes I have no space for the fiducials, and 
still the board gets made.   I think board manufacturers can use all 
sorts of things as a fiducial, and you may well find that in any case 
they are added to the panel as a whole.

If no-one can come up with a better idea, you could create a ring of 
padlets around the fiducial.   Not very pretty and rather tedious, but 
it would keep out the copper.

Another possibility might be to wait until you've finished the board and 
then create a hole in the zone over the fiducial.

Regards,

Robert.