[kicad-users] Re: Placing components on commercially manufactured prototyping boards

2009-06-18 Thread axtz4
--- In kicad-users@yahoogroups.com, Dr.WhoDr.Who paulgusci...@... wrote:

 
 I am just starting to think about using KiCAD for capturing some small
 circuit designs so that I can create nice printed documentation.
 
 For initial prototypes, and when I expect that I will only create one
 unit as a simulator, I plan to use commercially manufactured prototyping
 boards such as the BusBoard Prototype Systems Solderable PC Breadboard
 http://www.busboard.us/bps-br1.htm http://www.busboard.us/bps-br1.htm
 .
 
 How could one use KiCAD cvpcb and/or pcbnew to show the traces and hole
 patterns that exist on the commercially manufactured  board, then place
 the components where they will go on the board?

I don't believe there's an existing library for this, but there's nothing 
preventing you from creating a template board file with just the tracks, and 
then open a copy of that template onto which you would place your components.

AFAIK, the design-rule-check (DRC) may not see the pads as connected to the 
traces unless they land iexactly/i co-incident, so you're assuming more of 
the responsibility of checking that all and only the right things are connected.

With that in mind, however, it should work.

Alternately, there is a layout program that's designed to work with 
stripboard-style protoboards. Kicad can create netlists that it can read, so 
you will get routing and DRC capability. The program is VeeCAD; it's over at 
http://veecad.com and there is a free version available.

Stripboards are available from various vendors. One I've found on the 'net with 
decent prices is Futurlec at http://www.futurlec.com/ProtoBoards.shtml




[kicad-users] for the eeschema wish list: rubber banding and ports/flags

2009-06-18 Thread einazaki668
Not sure if this has been covered already (the search function for this
list seems to be broke).  I was thinking it would be nice if KiCad had
a one step implementation for rubberbanding wires.  Also I think having
some sort of flag object to establish non-contiguous connections might
be a good idea.  I know KiCad uses labels for this, I think flags would
stand out better.



[kicad-users] Re: PLEASE help....Anyone out there???

2009-06-18 Thread Dick H.
--- In kicad-users@yahoogroups.com, Greg Dyess gregory.dy...@... wrote:

 A, now I see what you mean.  I will double-check this as I know we had to 
 go back and touch up some of the board edges after the entire board was 
 drawn.  This will probably require hand-editing of the .brd file.


Greg,

If this does not lead to anything, then email me your board file please.  dick 
at softplc.com 

I will step through the code with it and see why it it not converting properly 
to DSN.

Dick




[kicad-users] Parallel Power Out pins: best current practice ?

2009-06-18 Thread Werner Almesberger
Some chips route a power output to multiple pins to share the current
more equally. Marking all the pins a Power Out will incur ERC's wrath
when connecting them to each other.

What's the current best practice for dealing with this ? Two ideas:

- make only one Power Out, the others Passive or such

- tick off the Power Out vs. Power Out conflict in the ERC settings

I don't particularly like neither of them. Any suggestions ?

Thanks,
- Werner


Re: [kicad-users] for the eeschema wish list: rubber banding and ports/flags

2009-06-18 Thread Andy Eskelson
Have you found drag block rather than move block?

That does rubberbanding.

andy




On Thu, 18 Jun 2009 19:42:08 -
einazaki668 einazaki...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Not sure if this has been covered already (the search function for this
 list seems to be broke).  I was thinking it would be nice if KiCad had
 a one step implementation for rubberbanding wires.  Also I think having
 some sort of flag object to establish non-contiguous connections might
 be a good idea.  I know KiCad uses labels for this, I think flags would
 stand out better.
 
 
 
 
 
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[kicad-users] Re: gerbview: complement of desired circular arc appears at concave external corners

2009-06-18 Thread bears1bear
hi.
any update or feedback on the fix?
thanks.
hwn

--- In kicad-users@yahoogroups.com, bears1bear h...@... wrote:

 thank you, brian.
 
 hwn
 
 
 --- In kicad-users@yahoogroups.com, Brian Sidebotham brian.sidebotham@ 
 wrote:
 
  2009/5/8 bears1bear hwn@:
   thanks very much, brian.
  
   the extra arc codes in my example were possibly because i took
   � an existing gerber and kept deleting stuff in a text editor
   � and loading back into gerbview, repeatedly, until i thought
   � i had a reasonable example.
  
  
  Hi,
  
  I have sent a patch to the kicad-devel list. Hopefully it will be
  approved and patched in the next few days. It renders your board
  outline fine, along with a test-case gerber I wrote.
  
  Thanks for reporting the bug.
  
  Best Regards,
  
  Brian Sidebotham.
 





Re: [kicad-users] Re: PLEASE help....Anyone out there???

2009-06-18 Thread Greg Dyess
Thanks for the offer.  I went through all of the $DRAWSEGMENT entries in the 
.brd file for layer 28 (PCB_EDGES) and found that there was one extra segment 
and the segments were not contiguous.  I painstakingly went through and created 
coordinates for each board, filled in a spreadsheet and then had Excell export 
the spreadsheet so that I could put the segments back into the .brd file.  
Everything worked perfectly from then on.

In the future, I will probably use this approach to start the .brd file with 
precisely-defined edges.  It's a lot easier than trying to draw them out in the 
board editor.

Thanks to everyone for all of the suggestions!
Greg




From: Dick H. d...@softplc.com
To: kicad-users@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2009 3:19:09 PM
Subject: [kicad-users] Re: PLEASE helpAnyone out there???

--- In kicad-users@yahoogroups.com, Greg Dyess gregory.dy...@... wrote:

 A, now I see what you mean.  I will double-check this as I know we had to 
 go back and touch up some of the board edges after the entire board was 
 drawn.  This will probably require hand-editing of the .brd file.


Greg,

If this does not lead to anything, then email me your board file please.  dick 
at softplc.com 

I will step through the code with it and see why it it not converting properly 
to DSN.

Dick






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