Re: [Koha] Hardware requirements
Hello! Many thanks for all your answers! :) It seems that Koha will be the first software where I actually need (quite a bit) less than before :) -- Kind regards, Alexander Wagner Deutsches Elektronen-Synchrotron DESY Library and Documentation Building 01d Room OG1.444 Notkestr. 85 22607 Hamburg phone: +49-40-8998-1758 e-mail: alexander.wag...@desy.de ___ Koha mailing list http://koha-community.org Koha@lists.katipo.co.nz Unsubscribe: https://lists.katipo.co.nz/mailman/listinfo/koha
Re: [Koha] Hardware requirements
This isn't a definitive answer, but we support 6 volunteer-run libraries here in Sheffield on a "Basic Plan" droplet from Digital Ocean with 8Gb memory, 4 vCPUs and a 20 Gbyte disk. CPU usage sits mostly between 30% and 60% (the peaks are around 6.30am when the cron jobs run). Memory usage is quite high (70%) and is the thing we would run out of first if we tried to support more libraries. Disk usage is steady at 18% Hope this helps! Chris Brown On Fri, Aug 25, 2023 at 8:34 AM Wagner, Alexander wrote: > Hello! > > Currently, we migrate a few smaller libraries (say 50k titles, 5k patrons > each) to Koha. At some point this will have to move from our pretty small > dev box to a user facing production server. > > Could someone "in the know" give me some advice on the hardware > requirements for Koha? > > Eg. CPUs, RAM, disk space... Probably even some hints like "before you add > another 20 cores, just add a few G of RAM" would be welcome. I searched the > wiki and the web, but I did not find any specifics beyond "it should be > able to run linux" and "go for 64bit". Basically, I have to specify this to > our IT centres for them to set up a suitable virtual machine. > > -- > Kind regards, > > Alexander Wagner > > Deutsches Elektronen-Synchrotron DESY > Library and Documentation > > Building 01d Room OG1.444 > Notkestr. 85 > 22607 Hamburg > > phone: +49-40-8998-1758 > e-mail: alexander.wag...@desy.de > ___ > > Koha mailing list http://koha-community.org > Koha@lists.katipo.co.nz > Unsubscribe: https://lists.katipo.co.nz/mailman/listinfo/koha > ___ Koha mailing list http://koha-community.org Koha@lists.katipo.co.nz Unsubscribe: https://lists.katipo.co.nz/mailman/listinfo/koha
[Koha] Hardware requirements
Hello! Currently, we migrate a few smaller libraries (say 50k titles, 5k patrons each) to Koha. At some point this will have to move from our pretty small dev box to a user facing production server. Could someone "in the know" give me some advice on the hardware requirements for Koha? Eg. CPUs, RAM, disk space... Probably even some hints like "before you add another 20 cores, just add a few G of RAM" would be welcome. I searched the wiki and the web, but I did not find any specifics beyond "it should be able to run linux" and "go for 64bit". Basically, I have to specify this to our IT centres for them to set up a suitable virtual machine. -- Kind regards, Alexander Wagner Deutsches Elektronen-Synchrotron DESY Library and Documentation Building 01d Room OG1.444 Notkestr. 85 22607 Hamburg phone: +49-40-8998-1758 e-mail: alexander.wag...@desy.de ___ Koha mailing list http://koha-community.org Koha@lists.katipo.co.nz Unsubscribe: https://lists.katipo.co.nz/mailman/listinfo/koha
Re: [Koha] Hardware requirements
Hi, Thanks for the reply. I’ve told the admin of our sponsoring organization our preferred specs. He’ll look for a suitable provider. So let’s see what happens. Once again, I’d like to thank everybody for their advices. Stephan Am 10.09.2014 um 00:23 schrieb Bruce A. Metcalf bruce.metc...@augustansociety.net: On 09/07/2014 01:50 AM, Witoszynskyj Stephan wrote: we are a (very) small library. We are using Koha since a couple of months. So far our installation is „offline“ (on an old Mac Mini that is not accessible from the internet). Now we want to go online. Due to our limited budget the only option will be renting a virtual server. However, I have no idea which specifications will be sufficient in our case. I know that more is always better, but our financial resources are really limited. The offerings that I currently have, have following specifications: * Single Core, 512 MB RAM, 20 GB hard disk * Single Core, 1024 MB RAM, 40 GB hard disk We have less than 5000 books and less than 250 customers. Even the small size should be more than adequate, though take note of comments others have made about speed vs. RAM. I'm running a Dual Core, 2000 MB RAM, 8 GB hard disk for 3000 books. It runs as fast as a dedicated box on my test bench, and there's plenty of overhead. (Though as I'm a reference library, there's no circulation use.) What I suggest you consider is a virtual hosting service that permits you to adjust your RAM, hard drive space, and perhaps bandwidth on the fly. I've changed my configuration a dozen times as my wee system has grown, and it's nice to know I'm only 5 minutes from more drive space! My provider is RimuHosting (more Kiwis!) and the above system is costing me about US$20/month. One could do well with much less. Buy small and upgrade as you feel the need. I’m sorry that I’m asking a question that has been asked a hundred times… No apology needed. It's an excellent question, and the answer will evolve over time, so it's good to ask again. Regards, / Bruce / Bruce A. Metcalf Library Director The Augustan Society, Inc. ___ Koha mailing list http://koha-community.org Koha@lists.katipo.co.nz http://lists.katipo.co.nz/mailman/listinfo/koha ___ Koha mailing list http://koha-community.org Koha@lists.katipo.co.nz http://lists.katipo.co.nz/mailman/listinfo/koha
Re: [Koha] Hardware requirements
On 09/07/2014 01:50 AM, Witoszynskyj Stephan wrote: we are a (very) small library. We are using Koha since a couple of months. So far our installation is „offline“ (on an old Mac Mini that is not accessible from the internet). Now we want to go online. Due to our limited budget the only option will be renting a virtual server. However, I have no idea which specifications will be sufficient in our case. I know that more is always better, but our financial resources are really limited. The offerings that I currently have, have following specifications: * Single Core, 512 MB RAM, 20 GB hard disk * Single Core, 1024 MB RAM, 40 GB hard disk We have less than 5000 books and less than 250 customers. Even the small size should be more than adequate, though take note of comments others have made about speed vs. RAM. I'm running a Dual Core, 2000 MB RAM, 8 GB hard disk for 3000 books. It runs as fast as a dedicated box on my test bench, and there's plenty of overhead. (Though as I'm a reference library, there's no circulation use.) What I suggest you consider is a virtual hosting service that permits you to adjust your RAM, hard drive space, and perhaps bandwidth on the fly. I've changed my configuration a dozen times as my wee system has grown, and it's nice to know I'm only 5 minutes from more drive space! My provider is RimuHosting (more Kiwis!) and the above system is costing me about US$20/month. One could do well with much less. Buy small and upgrade as you feel the need. I’m sorry that I’m asking a question that has been asked a hundred times… No apology needed. It's an excellent question, and the answer will evolve over time, so it's good to ask again. Regards, / Bruce / Bruce A. Metcalf Library Director The Augustan Society, Inc. ___ Koha mailing list http://koha-community.org Koha@lists.katipo.co.nz http://lists.katipo.co.nz/mailman/listinfo/koha
Re: [Koha] Hardware requirements
Greetings, You asked what options are best for your scenario. [SNIP] The offerings that I currently have, have following specifications: * Single Core, 512 MB RAM, 20 GB hard disk * Single Core, 1024 MB RAM, 40 GB hard disk We have less than 5000 books and less than 250 customers. I’m sorry that I’m asking a question that has been asked a hundred times… I don't know what you are considering as your VM hosting provider for those particular sizes. We use Digital Ocean. https://www.digitalocean.com/pricing/ Their $10/month plan should suffice you. However, if you plan on expanding your inventory or having excessively high circulation rates, go with a higher plan. I always recommend at least 1GB (=1024MB) RAM. This can impact the speed of your reindexes. 20GB disk space is functional for a small test system, but more is always better. Please also consider the underlying VM technology involved. The other day someone had issues with their VM, and it turned out they had OpenVM and the node they had in question was a problematic one (probably because all the new people keep getting auto assigned there and overloading it). OpenVM providers tend to also be cheaper. A price difference that could mean the difference between an upgrade headache and upgrade ease. GPML, Mark Tompsett ___ Koha mailing list http://koha-community.org Koha@lists.katipo.co.nz http://lists.katipo.co.nz/mailman/listinfo/koha
Re: [Koha] Hardware requirements
Hi, On Sun, Sep 7, 2014 at 6:12 AM, Mark Tompsett mtomp...@hotmail.com wrote: snip Please also consider the underlying VM technology involved. The other day someone had issues with their VM, and it turned out they had OpenVM and the node they had in question was a problematic one (probably because all the new people keep getting auto assigned there and overloading it). OpenVM providers tend to also be cheaper. A price difference that could mean the difference between an upgrade headache and upgrade ease. That someone would be me :) The problem was finally isolated to a faulty DRAC. Once the VMs were moved off to another server (non-DELL, same spec and config, except for DRAC and RAID) things quickly fell in place. The main sysadmin is a kick-ass tech who is available even outside their US office hours. Only catch, he is usually available only over irc. In my case, once I actually got hold of him, he fixed the issues within 15 mins. FWIW, I'm paying US $7 /mo for a 4096MB/60GB/3TB on OpenVZ. It is my test box, one that fits my budget. -indra -- Indranil Das Gupta Phone : +91-98300-20971 Blog: http://indradg.randomink.org/blog IRC : indradg on irc://irc.freenode.net Twitter : indradg -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-==-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Please exchange editable Office documents only in ODF Format. No other format is acceptable. Support Open Standards. For a free editor supporting ODF, please visit LibreOffice - http://www.documentfoundation.org ___ Koha mailing list http://koha-community.org Koha@lists.katipo.co.nz http://lists.katipo.co.nz/mailman/listinfo/koha
[Koha] Hardware requirements
Hello, we are a (very) small library. We are using Koha since a couple of months. So far our installation is „offline“ (on an old Mac Mini that is not accessible from the internet). Now we want to go online. Due to our limited budget the only option will be renting a virtual server. However, I have no idea which specifications will be sufficient in our case. I know that more is always better, but our financial resources are really limited. The offerings that I currently have, have following specifications: * Single Core, 512 MB RAM, 20 GB hard disk * Single Core, 1024 MB RAM, 40 GB hard disk We have less than 5000 books and less than 250 customers. I’m sorry that I’m asking a question that has been asked a hundred times… Regards, Stephan ___ Koha mailing list http://koha-community.org Koha@lists.katipo.co.nz http://lists.katipo.co.nz/mailman/listinfo/koha
Re: [Koha] Hardware requirements for a machine running server and client together - Elive?
Greetings, You could always host your server on a remote server. We hosted elsewhere previously, but I'm not going to say who, because I wouldn't recommend them to my worst enemy. We currently use DigitalOcean. https://www.digitalocean.com/pricing $20/month is cheaper than buying a new server every 4 years. :) Just a side thought. Then you can get an off the shelf machine to be a client at cheaper prices. The only major reason to not host is because of data privacy issues, as far as I can tell. GPML, Mark Tompsett ___ Koha mailing list http://koha-community.org Koha@lists.katipo.co.nz http://lists.katipo.co.nz/mailman/listinfo/koha
Re: [Koha] Hardware requirements for a machine running server and client together - Elive?
Hie, I highly advice you to separate server and client. Indeed, a wrong manipulation on client, such as setting network off, and your server is down. You could use a simple desktop PC has server and a small nettop has client. So you can use pure Debian with stable version for server and what you want for client. Regards, Le 12/01/2014 14:47, Andrea Furin a écrit : Hi to all. A perhaps stupid question but very important for me. How much powerful should be a computer for running Koha as server and a client together working with about 70.000 records? Thanks in advance And... can I install Elive Linux instead of pure Debian? Thanks Andrea Furin -- Fridolin SOMERS Biblibre - Pôles support et système fridolin.som...@biblibre.com ___ Koha mailing list http://koha-community.org Koha@lists.katipo.co.nz http://lists.katipo.co.nz/mailman/listinfo/koha
[Koha] Hardware requirements for a machine running server and client together - Elive?
Hi to all. A perhaps stupid question but very important for me. How much powerful should be a computer for running Koha as server and a client together working with about 70.000 records? Thanks in advance And... can I install Elive Linux instead of pure Debian? Thanks Andrea Furin -- ___ Koha mailing list http://koha-community.org Koha@lists.katipo.co.nz http://lists.katipo.co.nz/mailman/listinfo/koha
Re: [Koha] Hardware requirements for a machine running server and client together - Elive?
Hi I think you need server with high performance.. I advice to has these features: Processor core i5 or above for a better performance.. RAM 8 GB will be v. good.. You'll need a 64 bit OS to support that much RAM. Also you need large volume of HDD.. 320 GB will be enough as locally.. Best regards.. Sent from my iPad On Jan 12, 2014, at 15:47, Andrea Furin andrea.fu...@slacky.it wrote: Hi to all. A perhaps stupid question but very important for me. How much powerful should be a computer for running Koha as server and a client together working with about 70.000 records? Thanks in advance And... can I install Elive Linux instead of pure Debian? Thanks Andrea Furin -- ___ Koha mailing list http://koha-community.org Koha@lists.katipo.co.nz http://lists.katipo.co.nz/mailman/listinfo/koha ___ Koha mailing list http://koha-community.org Koha@lists.katipo.co.nz http://lists.katipo.co.nz/mailman/listinfo/koha
Re: [Koha] Hardware requirements for a machine running server and client together - Elive?
Andrea Furin schreef op zo 12-01-2014 om 14:47 [+0100]: Hi to all. A perhaps stupid question but very important for me. How much powerful should be a computer for running Koha as server and a client together working with about 70.000 records? Thanks in advance A good desktop should handle that OK if you're having to be very budget conscious, though this isn't a recommended configuration. Servers tend to be faster, easier to keep backed up, secured, and maintained. To specify a server, you really need to know how busy it'll be. More records really just means more disk space, but that's cheap. More usage means more/better CPUs and more RAM. As a rule of thumb, the minimums I'd recommend for a server are 2GB RAM, 20GB of disk, and dual core reasonable processors. However if you are also running a desktop on it, then you'll have to increase the specs to account for this. And... can I install Elive Linux instead of pure Debian? Maybe. If it's close enough to Debian, you can do it with the packages. If it's not close enough, you'll have to do it the old-fashioned tar file way. -- Robin Sheat Catalyst IT Ltd. ✆ +64 4 803 2204 GPG: 5FA7 4B49 1E4D CAA4 4C38 8505 77F5 B724 F871 3BDF ___ Koha mailing list http://koha-community.org Koha@lists.katipo.co.nz http://lists.katipo.co.nz/mailman/listinfo/koha
Re: [Koha] Hardware requirements for a machine running server and client together - Elive?
I have about 350,000 records running just fine in a virtual environment, only a single core, 1GB RAM. Sent from my iPad On Jan 12, 2014, at 15:47, Andrea Furin andrea.fu...@slacky.it wrote: Hi to all. A perhaps stupid question but very important for me. How much powerful should be a computer for running Koha as server and a client together working with about 70.000 records? Thanks in advance And... can I install Elive Linux instead of pure Debian? Thanks Andrea Furin -- ___ Koha mailing list http://koha-community.org Koha@lists.katipo.co.nz http://lists.katipo.co.nz/mailman/ ___ Koha mailing list http://koha-community.org Koha@lists.katipo.co.nz http://lists.katipo.co.nz/mailman/listinfo/koha
Re: [Koha] Hardware requirements for a machine running server and client together - Elive?
Greetings, How much powerful should be a computer for running Koha as server and a client together working with about 70.000 records? Technically: THERE ARE NO HARDWARE REQUIREMENTS FOR A BASE KOHA INSTALLATION. In reality, more than 512MB of RAM. 1GB minimum is my suggestion. 512MB was painfully inadequate for us and we have less than 70K records currently. I like the 2GB ram suggestion, which is what we are using for our live system. 20 minute full reindex vs. 3+ hours trying to reindex on 512MB. And depending on the size of your records, Operating System, etc. You could probably get away with a 15GB drive space. But again, libraries grow, so why not larger? And you are doing a desktop, so probably 320GB should suffice initially. :) However, it is a good idea to have a hard drive on the larger size for a production system because the database of MARC records will be contained on that one hard drive. We are not only concerned about MARC records but also patron data, checkout history, use statistics and most importantly database indexes. (http://www.codeykolasinski.com/koha.pdf) -- Good point! :) And... can I install Elive Linux instead of pure Debian? You can try Elive Linux, but pure Debian (or Ubuntu) has more people who have done it, are doing it, and can help you do it. It should be possible, considering it claims to be where Debian mets enlightenment, which would suggest the packages from the Koha Debian repository should be usable. GPML, Mark Tompsett ___ Koha mailing list http://koha-community.org Koha@lists.katipo.co.nz http://lists.katipo.co.nz/mailman/listinfo/koha
Re: [Koha] Hardware requirements for a machine running server andclient together - Elive?
Greetings, In the off chance someone thinks the PDF I linked to are the instructions you should follow. Don't. The current installation instructions should be followed, not archaic ones. :) http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Debian http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_on_ubuntu_-_packages GPML, Mark Tompsett ___ Koha mailing list http://koha-community.org Koha@lists.katipo.co.nz http://lists.katipo.co.nz/mailman/listinfo/koha
