Re: [Koha] Reason to define Koha item type in 942

[Indranil Das Gupta]

Katrin++

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Thanks @cait

On Mon, 18 Oct, 2021, 2:23 am Katrin Fischer, 
wrote:

> Hi Caroline and all,
>
> to add to the list of things:
>
> - 942$c is used as the pre-selected item type when adding new items.
> - 942$c will be used for record level article requests to determine
> which circulation rule applies.
> - I also believe that 942$c plays a role in record level hold requests,
> but I couldn't quite pinpoint that. I seem to remember that it was used
> for the max number of possible record level holds for an item type.
>
> Hope that helps,
>
> Katrin
>
> On 15.10.21 16:22, Caroline Cyr-La-Rose wrote:
> > Hello!
> >
> > I'd like to add to Indranil's explanation.
> >
> > 952$y is mandatory for circulation IF item-level_itypes is set to
> > "specific item". Otherwise, 942$c is used as the item type for
> > circulation.
> >
> > Another thing that I have observed about 942$c is that it is indexed
> > for the search in the same way as 952$y. So if you have records
> > without items (for journal articles, websites or ebooks for example),
> > these will still be searchable through the item type filter.
> >
> > Also, if 942$c and 952$y are not the same in one record (for example,
> > 942$c is Book and 952$y is Reference), they will show in the results
> > of a search for either type.
> >
> > I'm making a note to compile all our comments to add into the manual,
> > since that's where you searched for the information first.
> > https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=29252
> >
> > Best regards,
> >
> > Caroline
> >
> > On 2021-10-15 10 h 02, Indranil Das Gupta wrote:
> >> Hi Tasha,
> >>
> >> 942$c - defines the type of material the bibliographic record
> >> represents,
> >> sort of like it's GMD (general material description). Has no bearing on
> >> circulation of material. Stored as marcxml in biblio_metadata.
> >>
> >> 952$y - defines the item-level item, and is used mandatorily for Koha's
> >> circulation rules which work as a permutation of (a) branchcodes (b)
> >> patron
> >> categories and (c) item-level item types. Stored as itype column in
> >> items
> >> table.
> >>
> >> Hope this helps
> >> Indranil
> >>
> >> On Fri, 15 Oct, 2021, 12:44 am Bales (US), Tasha R, <
> >> tasha.r.ba...@boeing.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Good afternoon,
> >>>
> >>> I recall reading (in the Koha manual?) the explanation for why it is
> >>> advantageous to define Koha item type in the bib 942 field.  I
> >>> believe it
> >>> has to do with exporting records, or the scope of records that is
> >>> included
> >>> when doing some type of report?  I'm trying to locate that information
> >>> again, but can't find it for the life of me.
> >>>
> >>> Does this seem familiar to anyone?  Thanks.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Tasha Bales
> >>> Enterprise Services
> >>> http://isesi.web.boeing.com/
> >>>
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Re: [Koha] Reason to define Koha item type in 942

[Katrin Fischer]

Hi Caroline and all,

to add to the list of things:

- 942$c is used as the pre-selected item type when adding new items.
- 942$c will be used for record level article requests to determine
which circulation rule applies.
- I also believe that 942$c plays a role in record level hold requests,
but I couldn't quite pinpoint that. I seem to remember that it was used
for the max number of possible record level holds for an item type.

Hope that helps,

Katrin

On 15.10.21 16:22, Caroline Cyr-La-Rose wrote:

Hello!

I'd like to add to Indranil's explanation.

952$y is mandatory for circulation IF item-level_itypes is set to
"specific item". Otherwise, 942$c is used as the item type for
circulation.

Another thing that I have observed about 942$c is that it is indexed
for the search in the same way as 952$y. So if you have records
without items (for journal articles, websites or ebooks for example),
these will still be searchable through the item type filter.

Also, if 942$c and 952$y are not the same in one record (for example,
942$c is Book and 952$y is Reference), they will show in the results
of a search for either type.

I'm making a note to compile all our comments to add into the manual,
since that's where you searched for the information first.
https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=29252

Best regards,

Caroline

On 2021-10-15 10 h 02, Indranil Das Gupta wrote:

Hi Tasha,

942$c - defines the type of material the bibliographic record
represents,
sort of like it's GMD (general material description). Has no bearing on
circulation of material. Stored as marcxml in biblio_metadata.

952$y - defines the item-level item, and is used mandatorily for Koha's
circulation rules which work as a permutation of (a) branchcodes (b)
patron
categories and (c) item-level item types. Stored as itype column in
items
table.

Hope this helps
Indranil

On Fri, 15 Oct, 2021, 12:44 am Bales (US), Tasha R, <
tasha.r.ba...@boeing.com> wrote:


Good afternoon,

I recall reading (in the Koha manual?) the explanation for why it is
advantageous to define Koha item type in the bib 942 field.  I
believe it
has to do with exporting records, or the scope of records that is
included
when doing some type of report?  I'm trying to locate that information
again, but can't find it for the life of me.

Does this seem familiar to anyone?  Thanks.


Tasha Bales
Enterprise Services
http://isesi.web.boeing.com/

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Re: [Koha] Reason to define Koha item type in 942

[Caroline Cyr-La-Rose]

Hello!

I'd like to add to Indranil's explanation.

952$y is mandatory for circulation IF item-level_itypes is set to 
"specific item". Otherwise, 942$c is used as the item type for circulation.


Another thing that I have observed about 942$c is that it is indexed for 
the search in the same way as 952$y. So if you have records without 
items (for journal articles, websites or ebooks for example), these will 
still be searchable through the item type filter.


Also, if 942$c and 952$y are not the same in one record (for example, 
942$c is Book and 952$y is Reference), they will show in the results of 
a search for either type.


I'm making a note to compile all our comments to add into the manual, 
since that's where you searched for the information first. 
https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=29252


Best regards,

Caroline

On 2021-10-15 10 h 02, Indranil Das Gupta wrote:

Hi Tasha,

942$c - defines the type of material the bibliographic record represents,
sort of like it's GMD (general material description). Has no bearing on
circulation of material. Stored as marcxml in biblio_metadata.

952$y - defines the item-level item, and is used mandatorily for Koha's
circulation rules which work as a permutation of (a) branchcodes (b) patron
categories and (c) item-level item types. Stored as itype column in items
table.

Hope this helps
Indranil

On Fri, 15 Oct, 2021, 12:44 am Bales (US), Tasha R, <
tasha.r.ba...@boeing.com> wrote:


Good afternoon,

I recall reading (in the Koha manual?) the explanation for why it is
advantageous to define Koha item type in the bib 942 field.  I believe it
has to do with exporting records, or the scope of records that is included
when doing some type of report?  I'm trying to locate that information
again, but can't find it for the life of me.

Does this seem familiar to anyone?  Thanks.


Tasha Bales
Enterprise Services
http://isesi.web.boeing.com/

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Re: [Koha] Reason to define Koha item type in 942

[Indranil Das Gupta]

Hi Tasha,

942$c - defines the type of material the bibliographic record represents,
sort of like it's GMD (general material description). Has no bearing on
circulation of material. Stored as marcxml in biblio_metadata.

952$y - defines the item-level item, and is used mandatorily for Koha's
circulation rules which work as a permutation of (a) branchcodes (b) patron
categories and (c) item-level item types. Stored as itype column in items
table.

Hope this helps
Indranil

On Fri, 15 Oct, 2021, 12:44 am Bales (US), Tasha R, <
tasha.r.ba...@boeing.com> wrote:

> Good afternoon,
>
> I recall reading (in the Koha manual?) the explanation for why it is
> advantageous to define Koha item type in the bib 942 field.  I believe it
> has to do with exporting records, or the scope of records that is included
> when doing some type of report?  I'm trying to locate that information
> again, but can't find it for the life of me.
>
> Does this seem familiar to anyone?  Thanks.
>
>
> Tasha Bales
> Enterprise Services
> http://isesi.web.boeing.com/
>
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Re: [Koha] Reason to define Koha item type in 942

[Decka David]

Dear Koha community,

Thank you to raise this issue as it is sort of corelate and I needs
clarity. It has bother me so long to understand it.

Thank you for participating


On Fri, Oct 15, 2021, 11:18 PM Mark Alexander  wrote:

> Excerpts from Bales (US), Tasha R's message of 2021-10-14 19:13:14 +:
> > I recall reading (in the Koha manual?) the explanation for why it is
> advantageous to define Koha item type in the bib 942 field.  I believe it
> has to do with exporting records, or the scope of records that is included
> when doing some type of report?  I'm trying to locate that information
> again, but can't find it for the life of me.
>
> I can't find the information right now, though I know I've seen it
> somewhere.
>
> My understanding is when importing a MARC record, 942$c is treated as the
> item type in the bibliographic record, and 952$y is the item type
> for the item record (assuming a 952 holding field was present).
>
> I have also observed that when you create a new item record from an
> existing bib record, 942$c gets copied into the new item's type.  So
> it's helpful to make sure that the item type in the bib record was set
> correctly when it was created (or imported).
>
> This wiki page talks about 952, but not 942:
>
> https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Holdings_data_fields_(9xx)
>
> I'm sure someone more knowledgeable can correct this if I'm wrong.
>
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Re: [Koha] Reason to define Koha item type in 942

[Mark Alexander]

Excerpts from Bales (US), Tasha R's message of 2021-10-14 19:13:14 +:
> I recall reading (in the Koha manual?) the explanation for why it is 
> advantageous to define Koha item type in the bib 942 field.  I believe it has 
> to do with exporting records, or the scope of records that is included when 
> doing some type of report?  I'm trying to locate that information again, but 
> can't find it for the life of me.

I can't find the information right now, though I know I've seen it somewhere.

My understanding is when importing a MARC record, 942$c is treated as the
item type in the bibliographic record, and 952$y is the item type
for the item record (assuming a 952 holding field was present).

I have also observed that when you create a new item record from an
existing bib record, 942$c gets copied into the new item's type.  So
it's helpful to make sure that the item type in the bib record was set
correctly when it was created (or imported).

This wiki page talks about 952, but not 942:

https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Holdings_data_fields_(9xx)

I'm sure someone more knowledgeable can correct this if I'm wrong.

-- 
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full of defects. --Ashleigh Brilliant
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