Re: [Koha-devel] Koha users wiki page outdated, use HEA

2018-08-23 Thread Liz Rea 


On 23/08/18 19:27, Paul Poulain wrote:
> Hello Liz,
>
>
> Le 23/08/2018 à 04:39, Liz Rea a écrit :
>> Hi Paul,
>>
>> No objection really, using Hea is a good thing and I recommend
>> libraries enable it. We should make asking about enabling it the last
>> step of the onboarder [is it there already? I forget...]. :)
>>
>> What I would like to see, is a lighter weight checkin to hea, where
>> if you (or your IT department) were feeling a bit wary about sending
>> all of your syspref stats to Hea, you could send only your Library
>> name and contact information, if desired (Koha could, of course,
>> provide things like the currently running version) as a one off.
> This idea sounds surprising to me: sharing sysprefs in anonymous way
> look less sensible than sharing library & contact. That's why we wrote
> HEA with only 3 options: share nothing / share data anonymously
> (including syspref) / share everything.
> In your idea, what about numbers already shared (like # of biblios,
> patrons, issues, ...) ? should they be sent with syspref or with
> library name/contact ?
> OTHER : do you think it's an option that will result in more libraries
> being on HEA ?

I do feel like having just the name and the contact information, as a
one off submission, would result in more libraries being listed in Hea -
especially if it's the last step in the onboarder at installation time,
and available say, to do later from the about page. could add a default
news item pointing to the preferences to turn it on and/or register your
library with the community.

IT departments are weird sometimes, what can I say. ^.^

>> I recognise this is a feature request for Hea :D and I think I'd be
>> happy at some stage to build the bits into Koha that were required to
>> have the feature, if it seems like something desirable to have in
>> addition to the auto reporting.
>>
>> I have other ideas about how one-off data could be used too, for
>> example you could flag those libraries if they never updated
>> automatically (or done an additional one off submission later) in Hea
>> "this library hasn't reported in for a long time - this entry may be
>> suspect." Those could be in an entirely separate list, too. Could
>> also email the contact automatically "hey update your entry if you're
>> still using Koha!"
> Good news: we store the "last update timestamp" on the server. So we
> can do that really easily ;)
>

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Re: [Koha-devel] KohaCon18 social stuff

2018-08-23 Thread Brendan Gallagher 
The air quality here right now is not good at all.  It should definitely be
cleared out of here in a couple of weeks though.  I'll keep updating on
that weekly.

On Wed, Aug 22, 2018 at 6:27 PM, David Cook 
wrote:

> Looks like Chris added Cascade Brewing for 10 September. It's top of my
> list of beer places to explore in Portland, although I have another 20
> suggestions from beer people I know, plus I'm sure Brendan must have
> suggestions, so I think there are no shortage of options there.
>
> Actually, important FYI for KohaCon18 attendees... there are a lot of
> wildfires in the Pacific Northwest at the moment, so the air quality is
> quite low. Brendan would have the best insight on that one as a local, but
> I have friends and family in western North America who are requiring air
> purifiers indoors and masks outdoors, so worth keeping in mind for your
> visit (and your planning of outdoor activities), especially if you have
> health problems like asthma or other respiratory issues.
>
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> -Original Message-
> From: koha-devel-boun...@lists.koha-community.org [mailto:
> koha-devel-boun...@lists.koha-community.org] On Behalf Of Paul Poulain
> Sent: Thursday, 23 August 2018 2:15 AM
> To: koha-devel@lists.koha-community.org
> Subject: [Koha-devel] KohaCon18 social stuff
>
> Hello,
>
> Just for those who are not following wiki closely :
> https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Kohacon18/Social
>
> => you can register here your arrival & departure infos
>
> => you can see some ideas trip trip/beer/fun/...
>
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Re: [Koha-devel] Koha users wiki page outdated, use HEA

2018-08-23 Thread Paul Poulain 

Hello Liz,


Le 23/08/2018 à 04:39, Liz Rea a écrit :

Hi Paul,

No objection really, using Hea is a good thing and I recommend 
libraries enable it. We should make asking about enabling it the last 
step of the onboarder [is it there already? I forget...]. :)


What I would like to see, is a lighter weight checkin to hea, where if 
you (or your IT department) were feeling a bit wary about sending all 
of your syspref stats to Hea, you could send only your Library name 
and contact information, if desired (Koha could, of course, provide 
things like the currently running version) as a one off.
This idea sounds surprising to me: sharing sysprefs in anonymous way 
look less sensible than sharing library & contact. That's why we wrote 
HEA with only 3 options: share nothing / share data anonymously 
(including syspref) / share everything.
In your idea, what about numbers already shared (like # of biblios, 
patrons, issues, ...) ? should they be sent with syspref or with library 
name/contact ?
OTHER : do you think it's an option that will result in more libraries 
being on HEA ?
I recognise this is a feature request for Hea :D and I think I'd be 
happy at some stage to build the bits into Koha that were required to 
have the feature, if it seems like something desirable to have in 
addition to the auto reporting.


I have other ideas about how one-off data could be used too, for 
example you could flag those libraries if they never updated 
automatically (or done an additional one off submission later) in Hea 
"this library hasn't reported in for a long time - this entry may be 
suspect." Those could be in an entirely separate list, too. Could also 
email the contact automatically "hey update your entry if you're still 
using Koha!"
Good news: we store the "last update timestamp" on the server. So we can 
do that really easily ;)


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