KR> This is hard to believe

[John Gotschall]

I saw this exact same thing done with an RC aircraft in  a youtube a
while back

jg



On Thu, 2008-10-30 at 19:01 -0400, Dan Heath wrote:
> 
> (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XRCbkBfdBrQ)

KR> sunset over the hills of southern Tennessee

[ColdLake-Tim]

A couple of Sun & Funs ago a picture in SA Mag of the Yellow ARV Skylark, which 
started up and sped into the parking lot area hitting a Car...That was Steve's 
Dad's A/C..String of Bad luck Shizen!  ;-)

timmah!

KR> sunset over the hills of southern Tennessee

[ColdLake-Tim]

Couple hours before Sunset tonight>
http://www3.telus.net/projectpage/projectpage/

Steve & his Dad did a forced landing moments after flying over our Grass 
Strip this afternoon (4:00pm)

I was raking some topsoil he flew down the strip 100' pulled up and the 
engine started to miss he kept going then it quit started it again and it 
quit..Last I saw he was going down behind a ridgeline of trees 1/4 west

Pictures of arrival & my trailer/jack for recovery  tomorrow (Fri). 
Steve/Dad have been featured in SA & Kitplanes ARV Griffin, like this one> 

KR> sunset over the hills of southern Tennessee

[Mark Langford]

I managed to leave work "early" today, and got in another 1.5 hours before 
sunset.  I never got over 1000' AGL or much under wide open throttle.  What a 
blast!  I ended up over southern Tennessee and checked on the change to fall 
colors.  That's some pretty nice countryside.  The air was really calm and I 
greased four 3-pointers at M38 doing touch-and-goes before I quit.  Life is 
good.

Saturday I'm going to visit my best friend from high school, who I haven't seen 
for 30 years.  His brother was the first guy to walk up shake my hand at SERFI 
last weekend.  He said he'd been keeping up with me on the internet, and 
recognized my ugly plane as I was landing.  I told him since I had a personal 
time machine, I'd be back this weekend to visit with them.   They recently 
moved back from Texas, which I was planning to visit this winter to visit with 
them and Oscar Zuniga.   After spending some time with them on Saturday, I'll 
drop into the hayfield to see my father.  Maybe I'll have another picture for 
that one.  

See http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford/flights/081031303m.jpg for one of many 
great views I encountered along the way.  Keep on building...

Mark Langford, Huntsville, AL
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email:  N56ML at hiwaay.net

KR> carbon fibre

[bobby burington]

Nothing special ,  same ol resins as used regular for aircraft construction.

Bobby Burington


> > WHAT I AM TRYING TO FIND OUT IF I USE CARBON FIBRE
> INSTEAD OF KR FIBREGLASS IS THERE ANY SPECIAL RESIGN THAT I
> SHOULD USE FOR THE CARBON FIBRE.OTHER THAN THE NORMAL
> RESIGNS BEING USED FOR FIBRE GLASS
> >

KR> This is hard to believe

[Dan Heath]

Way cool, thanks for letting me know.  If it could be done with a model, I
wonder if it could be done in a real plane. 

See N64KR at http://KRBuilder.org - Then click on the pics 
See you at the 2008 - KR Gathering in Mt. Vernon, Ill
There is a time for building and a time for FLYING and the time for Flying
has begun.
Daniel R. Heath - Lexington, SC
---Original Message---

From: Randy Smith
List-Post: krnet@list.krnet.org
Date: 10/30/08 19:52:51
To: KRnet
Subject: Re: KR> This is hard to believe

I came home this evening and looked at my email. This video has been on at
least 8 different sites today. To bad it is a model with virtual special
effects and real plane noise.

--- On Thu, 10/30/08, Dan Heath  wrote:

From: Dan Heath 
Subject: KR> This is hard to believe
To: kr...@mylist.net
List-Post: krnet@list.krnet.org
Date: Thursday, October 30, 2008, 6:01 PM

You gotta watch this.

See N64KR at http://KRBuilder.org - Then click on the pics
See you at the 2008 - KR Gathering in Mt. Vernon, Ill
There is a time for building and a time for FLYING and the time for Flying
has begun.
Daniel R. Heath - Lexington, SC

YouTube - THE BEST AIR  RACE PILOT EVER!!!

(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XRCbkBfdBrQ)




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KR> carbon fibre

[Dave Arbogast, CISSP]

You should search the achieve about this... if you are talking about 
using CF for all of the plane, you will only gain high cost with no 
usable gain, except in the seat pans.

-dave


>
> WHAT I AM TRYING TO FIND OUT IF I USE CARBON FIBRE INSTEAD OF KR FIBREGLASS 
> IS THERE ANY SPECIAL RESIGN THAT I SHOULD USE FOR THE CARBON FIBRE.OTHER THAN 
> THE NORMAL RESIGNS BEING USED FOR FIBRE GLASS
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KR> Mold layup

[Barry Kruyssen]

See my answers below in [square brackets]

-Original Message-
From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net] On Behalf
Of phillabaum...@aol.com
Sent: Friday, 31 October 2008 7:49 AM
To: kr...@mylist.net
Subject: Re: KR> Mold layup


Thanks for the help see additional question following...

Steve

-Original Message-
From: Barry Kruyssen 
Subject: RE: KR> Mold layup



Hi Steve

 When making my molds (and I have been making molds since the early 70's) I
do the following:

4.Cover with a very generous coat of gel coat especially thick in
corners and tight spots. 


Is this a polyester resin gel coat? [yes]

5.Lay up with 2 layers of 15oz or heavier chopped strand fibreglass
(cheap stuff) using polyester resign (again cheap stuff but very rigid,
epoxy is very flexible in comparison and we want the mold rigid).  The other
advantage of polyester is it cures fast.  Remember that if the polyester
sets you have to grind of the surface to stick to it again as the surface
will have a wax coating once cured.


When laying up parts in a mold I only use gel coat if the part is not being
painted Gel coat is heavy, very heavy. Else I lay up as follows:

Good point!

6.Instead of get coat I mix up some epoxy resin with filler thin enough
to paint on but thick enough not to run down the sides and paint the mold
and let cure to very tacky, almost touch dry.  Constant touching up may be
required to stop big runs while it is curing.  This coat is fairly thin and
reduces (by an enormous amount) the pin holes in your finished product and
also gives you a very smooth finish which requires only a light sand and
painting.

Do you use a brush or a roller?  [I use a brush unless I am doing a very
large lay up, mainly because rollers soak up lots of resin but also they are
useless on compound curves]


original question from steve

I picked up a cowling from Glenn in Biloxi to use to make a mold for mine.?
I was wondering the lay up process.? I know wax three or four times then
spray on release agent I have some PVA (I think if its not old).? Questions
are: How many layers of cloth to make the mold? and how many layers to use
on the final cowling? Of course I have 5.85oz KR glass and epoxy.? I really
appreciate the use of the cowling and would like to return it as soon a
possible.? I put it on my plane for fit check. Boy did it fire me up to
finish the thing.



Steve Phillabaum

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KR> Mold layup

[phillabaum...@aol.com]

Thanks for the help see additional question following...

Steve

-Original Message-
From: Barry Kruyssen 
Subject: RE: KR> Mold layup



Hi Steve

 When making my molds (and I have been making molds since the early 70's) I
do the following:

4.Cover with a very generous coat of gel coat especially thick in
corners and tight spots. 


Is this a polyester resin gel coat?

5.Lay up with 2 layers of 15oz or heavier chopped strand fibreglass
(cheap stuff) using polyester resign (again cheap stuff but very rigid,
epoxy is very flexible in comparison and we want the mold rigid).  The other
advantage of polyester is it cures fast.  Remember that if the polyester
sets you have to grind of the surface to stick to it again as the surface
will have a wax coating once cured.


When laying up parts in a mold I only use gel coat if the part is not being
painted Gel coat is heavy, very heavy. Else I lay up as follows:

Good point!

6.Instead of get coat I mix up some epoxy resin with filler thin enough
to paint on but thick enough not to run down the sides and paint the mold
and let cure to very tacky, almost touch dry.  Constant touching up may be
required to stop big runs while it is curing.  This coat is fairly thin and
reduces (by an enormous amount) the pin holes in your finished product and
also gives you a very smooth finish which requires only a light sand and
painting.

Do you use a brush or a roller?


original question from steve

I picked up a cowling from Glenn in Biloxi to use to make a mold for mine.?
I was wondering the lay up process.? I know wax three or four times then
spray on release agent I have some PVA (I think if its not old).? Questions
are: How many layers of cloth to make the mold? and how many layers to use
on the final cowling? Of course I have 5.85oz KR glass and epoxy.? I really
appreciate the use of the cowling and would like to return it as soon a
possible.? I put it on my plane for fit check. Boy did it fire me up to
finish the thing.



Steve Phillabaum

KR> Report: New EBay posting for counterfeit plans

[Darren Crompton]

To report the theft go here:
http://pages.ebay.com/help/policies/replica-counterfeit.html

   - Click on "Report counterfeit or replica items"
   - Enter item number  320314745829


Cheers
-- 
Darren Crompton
AUSTRALIA

My web site: www.kr-2s.com

KR> Recommendation from Coldlake-Tim

[t...@telus.net]

Coldlake-Tim recommends the following Barnstormers classified ad (click on link)

http://www.barnstormers.com/listing.php?id=285530

Sale> Flying KR2  $7K !

AOL users, use this link:

http://www.barnstormers.com/listing.php?id=285530;>http://www.barnstormers.com/listing.php?id=285530

KR> carbon fibre

[Jeff Scott]

No.  Carbon fiber is laid up with the same resins and in the same manor as 
fiberglass.

Jeff Scott
Los Alamos, NM

-- vince flying  wrote:


WHAT I AM TRYING TO FIND OUT IF I USE CARBON FIBRE INSTEAD OF KR FIBREGLASS IS 
THERE ANY SPECIAL RESIGN THAT I SHOULD USE FOR THE CARBON FIBRE.OTHER THAN THE 
NORMAL RESIGNS BEING USED FOR FIBRE GLASS


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KR> carbon vibre

[vince flying]

WHAT I AM TRYING TO FIND OUT IF I USE CARBON FIBRE INSTEAD OF KR FIBREGLASS IS 
THERE ANY SPECIAL RESIGN THAT I SHOULD USE FOR THE CARBON FIBRE.OTHER THAN THE 
NORMAL RESIGNS BEING USED FOR FIBRE GLASS


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KR> Report: New EBay posting for counterfeit plans

[John Bouyea]

Item number: 320314745829

I noticed the Intellectual Property thief resurfaced.  I reported this as a
repost from a previously banned item/ seller.  Builders with protective
tendencies for Jeannette's interests may want to report it also.

Cheers.
John Bouyea
KR2/ Hillsboro, OR

KR> winter storage

[George Bearden]

I dunno, but when the airliners get stored they do it in the desert. Think
the driest they can find. I'm guessing, but maybe around 5% a lot of the
year in the western deserts w/o the summer monsoon.

Mojave Desert Rat,
GeoB

-Original Message-
From: John Gotschall [mailto:johng...@comcast.net] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 6:02 PM
To: KRnet
Subject: KR> winter storage

I live in a rain forest.  It rains all the time from November to April.
(pretty much).

My kr lives in a box tralier, and last winter I saw corrosion growing on the
outside of my new motor.  It was then filled with oil, sprayed with oil, and
the starter run to fill the oil passages.  I put two light bulbs under and a
sleeping bag over it

I just bought a dehumidifier (similar technology to an airconditioner) for
the trailer so this time any dryness level wanted in the trailer can be had
(so long as the temperature stays above 41 F).

Question is this: Is there such a thing as TOO dry?  IF your KR were in a
big box, how dry would you want it?

jg