KR> Re:user fees

[Mark]

There was an old shaggy dog story years ago that (short version) went
something along the lines of: "first they came and took the bankers, and no
one spoke up, then they came and took the doctors, and no one spoke up..."
(I took out all the racial, ethnic, and religious choices so as not to
offend anyone)... and finally "and then they came for me and no one was left
to speak up."

Anyhow, you get the idea.

Mark W.
N952MW

-Original Message-
From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net] On Behalf
Of Randy Smith
Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2009 3:45 PM
To: KRnet
Subject: Re: KR> Re:user fees

That his how I wanted to answer his email but could not come up with a short
version without getting rude. 

KR> Re:user fees

[David Lininger]

Ronald Wright wrote:
> Standing around waiting for the "other shoe to drop" is not the way to keep 
> flying.  Being the agressor is the only way to win.  We need PRO-ACTIVE 
> legislators introducing Bills to protect GA and our FREEDOMS..  Sitting on 
> our hands will not work with the "new/change" group in control again.  
> Spending apparently is their only "solution", but all that has done is to 
> grow more GOVERNMENT..  Homeland Security and the TSA are two of the most 
> recent jokes we now have to deal with in our daily lives, whether we are 
> flying or driving or sitting at home watching the latest comedy on the 
> "news"..
> 
> We need another Boston Tea Party to get these idiots we "elect" straightened 
> out.  It seems that once they get elected they suddenly get stupid..??  Let's 
> get a movement started to let the PEOPLE control Congress.  Stop their 
> "instant retirement programs and lifetime medical benefits".  We need 
> movement back to what POLITICIANS orginally did for US, served their COUNTRY 
> and then went back home;  no retirement, no perks for life..
> 

You know, of course, that there ARE Tea Parties being organized all 
around the country. Some were this weekend, many are still coming up. 
Here's a link for more information:

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view=90313

I'm working with the local Constitution Party contact to set one up 
around here in a couple of weeks.


-- 
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EM37kt
Rev. 2:10
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KR> Help Needed

[Mark Jones]

I am in bad need of a set of main bearings .010 and a set of rod bearings .010. 
I have a rebuild scheduled next weekend with Mark Petz at Falcon automotive and 
it seems all suppliers are sold out of this size. If anyone has these and can 
do without them for a while, I could sure use them as I am desperate to get 
back in the air. I will replace them with a new set as soon as they come 
available again. Please e-mail me at flyk...@charter.net if you are willing to 
help. Thank You


Mark Jones (N886MJ)
Stevens Point, WI
E-mail: flyk...@charter.net
Web: www.flykr2s.com

KR> TSA ruling will affect all of us

[Randy Smith]

I am 59 years old 6 years in the Marines at age 18. 13 months in country.


--- On Sat, 2/28/09, airgu...@comcast.net  wrote:

From: airgu...@comcast.net 
Subject: Re: KR> TSA ruling will affect all of us
To: "KRnet" 
List-Post: krnet@list.krnet.org
Date: Saturday, February 28, 2009, 5:21 PM

^ years defending me - I'll bet I was in before you - 69-74 - you might
remember the war!!! 



- Original Message - 
From: "Randy Smith"  
To: "KRnet"  
Sent: Friday, February 27, 2009 6:56:41 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
Subject: Re: KR> TSA ruling will affect all of us 

What other rights are you willing to give up. There are taking them away a
little at a time. How many young kids can stop by the airport too see the
planes. Without the young ones learning to fly I will have a hard time selling
my 3 planes. 
  
Sorry for the soap box it just gets me how people are willing to give freedom
up. I spent 6 years defending it. 

--- On Fri, 2/27/09, airgu...@comcast.net  wrote: 

From: airgu...@comcast.net  
Subject: Re: KR> TSA ruling will affect all of us 
To: "KRnet"  
List-Post: krnet@list.krnet.org
Date: Friday, February 27, 2009, 1:36 PM 

Badges with background checks have beem the rule at MHT in New Hampshire for a 
long time. Anyone flying in must be under eyes from the fbo. Sure keeps the 
radios etc from wandering away. 



- Original Message - 
From: "Kevin Jarvis"  
To: corvaircr...@mylist.net, kr...@mylist.net, m...@lancair.net 
Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2009 7:37:28 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
Subject: KR> TSA ruling will affect all of us 

Today is the last day to comment on this threat to personal aviation: 

The Transportation Security Administration (TSA) is proposing new and 
sweeping restrictions on general aviation aircraft. The proposal (Docket 
# TSA-2008-0021),  known as the "Large Aircraft Security Program" 
(LASP), would impose new and onerous security regulations and 
restrictions on owners, operators, pilots, and passengers, and on 
general aviation (GA) airports that serve "large" aircraft. 

As proposed, the LASP would apply only to aircraft with a maximum gross 
takeoff weight (MTOW) over 12,500 pounds. But new regulations just 
finalized by the U.S. Department of Homeland Security make it clear that 
the government considers *all aircraft* to be potential threats --- from 
747s to hot air balloons.* 
* 

*http://www.eaa.org/govt/tsa.asp 
* 

*Kevin* 

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KR> TSA ruling will affect all of us

[airgu...@comcast.net]

^ years defending me - I'll bet I was in before you - 69-74 - you might 
remember the war!!! 



- Original Message - 
From: "Randy Smith"  
To: "KRnet"  
Sent: Friday, February 27, 2009 6:56:41 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
Subject: Re: KR> TSA ruling will affect all of us 

What other rights are you willing to give up. There are taking them away a 
little at a time. How many young kids can stop by the airport too see the 
planes. Without the young ones learning to fly I will have a hard time selling 
my 3 planes. 
  
Sorry for the soap box it just gets me how people are willing to give freedom 
up. I spent 6 years defending it. 

--- On Fri, 2/27/09, airgu...@comcast.net  wrote: 

From: airgu...@comcast.net  
Subject: Re: KR> TSA ruling will affect all of us 
To: "KRnet"  
List-Post: krnet@list.krnet.org
Date: Friday, February 27, 2009, 1:36 PM 

Badges with background checks have beem the rule at MHT in New Hampshire for a 
long time. Anyone flying in must be under eyes from the fbo. Sure keeps the 
radios etc from wandering away. 



- Original Message - 
From: "Kevin Jarvis"  
To: corvaircr...@mylist.net, kr...@mylist.net, m...@lancair.net 
Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2009 7:37:28 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
Subject: KR> TSA ruling will affect all of us 

Today is the last day to comment on this threat to personal aviation: 

The Transportation Security Administration (TSA) is proposing new and 
sweeping restrictions on general aviation aircraft. The proposal (Docket 
# TSA-2008-0021),  known as the "Large Aircraft Security Program" 
(LASP), would impose new and onerous security regulations and 
restrictions on owners, operators, pilots, and passengers, and on 
general aviation (GA) airports that serve "large" aircraft. 

As proposed, the LASP would apply only to aircraft with a maximum gross 
takeoff weight (MTOW) over 12,500 pounds. But new regulations just 
finalized by the U.S. Department of Homeland Security make it clear that 
the government considers *all aircraft* to be potential threats --- from 
747s to hot air balloons.* 
* 

*http://www.eaa.org/govt/tsa.asp 
* 

*Kevin* 

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KR> Re:user fees

[Randy Smith]

That his how I wanted to answer his email but could not come up with a short 
version without getting rude. That is the problem ,some people seat back and 
wait. If we did not cry wolf do you really think they would back down? In Texas 
when the state decided to tax Corporation only those effected acted not enough 
folks to stop it. Then 3 years latter they applied the tax to LLC, LLP and up. 
not a large number of people no one listened. 2 years ago they included all 
business. not enough people to defend it. What do we do? Just pass it on to the 
customer.  Government never stops until enough people yell.

--- On Sat, 2/28/09, Patrick Driscoll  wrote:

From: Patrick Driscoll 
Subject: Re: KR> Re:user fees
To: "KRnet" 
List-Post: krnet@list.krnet.org
Date: Saturday, February 28, 2009, 1:56 PM

John Milland wrote:
  Fifty years ago as a young and new pilot I was energized and terrified
almost every month as AOPA came forth with a new warning that the
general aviation world as we knew it was about to end. After a few
years of this repeated cry of "wolf"  I grew tired and dropped out of
the AOPA organization.
   Did it occur to you that maybe the cry was dropped because so many who 
read it, called or emailed their congressmen and demanded a vote to drop the 
proposal?

Patrick Driscoll
Saint Paul, MN
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KR> Re:user fees

[Patrick Driscoll]

John Milland wrote:
  Fifty years ago as a young and new pilot I was energized and terrified
almost every month as AOPA came forth with a new warning that the
general aviation world as we knew it was about to end. After a few
years of this repeated cry of "wolf"  I grew tired and dropped out of
the AOPA organization.
   Did it occur to you that maybe the cry was dropped because so many who 
read it, called or emailed their congressmen and demanded a vote to drop the 
proposal?

Patrick Driscoll
Saint Paul, MN
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KR> Looking for a student pilot

[Kirk Lacewell]

I'm helping a friend in Brazil who is a fellow pilot and free lance magazine 
writer with his next article. We are hoping that you can help us find a subject 
for his article.

My friend's name is Ruy Flemming. Ruy lives in Sao Paulo and formerly flew with 
the Brazillian Air Force's "Smoke Squadron", their version of the Thunderbirds. 
He is currently a corporate pilot flying an Augusta helocopter.

Ruy is planning to write an article on young student pilots around the world 
and how they view their futures in flying. He has interviewed a Brazillian and 
a German and is looking for a young, American student pilot to interview. He is 
specifically looking for someone 16 years old.

I wonder if you might know of someone like that who would like to be 
interviewed for a Brazillian flying magazine.

Thanks,
Kirk Lacewell CFII
850 625 5888

KR> Re:user fees

[Ronald Wright]

Standing around waiting for the "other shoe to drop" is not the way to keep 
flying.  Being the agressor is the only way to win.  We need PRO-ACTIVE 
legislators introducing Bills to protect GA and our FREEDOMS..  Sitting on our 
hands will not work with the "new/change" group in control again.  Spending 
apparently is their only "solution", but all that has done is to grow more 
GOVERNMENT..  Homeland Security and the TSA are two of the most recent jokes we 
now have to deal with in our daily lives, whether we are flying or driving or 
sitting at home watching the latest comedy on the "news"..

We need another Boston Tea Party to get these idiots we "elect" straightened 
out.  It seems that once they get elected they suddenly get stupid..??  Let's 
get a movement started to let the PEOPLE control Congress.  Stop their "instant 
retirement programs and lifetime medical benefits".  We need movement back to 
what POLITICIANS orginally did for US, served their COUNTRY and then went back 
home;  no retirement, no perks for life..

Off the soap box..

Ron



> It seems that almost every year the budget proposals call
> for some  
> kind of users fees which are usually attributed to the
> airlines'  
> influence and their alleged desire to get rid of the little
>  
> airplanes.  if this follows the same pattern this will
> again be  
> dropped somewhere along the path.
> 
> 

KR> Re:user fees

[J M]

KR netters,

Regarding:

> (1) proposed budget is calling for aviation user charges starting  
> in 2011

   (2) ?It is often said the devil is in the details, but even with  
only a few details, we are concerned,? said AOPA President Craig


It seems that almost every year the budget proposals call for some  
kind of users fees which are usually attributed to the airlines'  
influence and their alleged desire to get rid of the little  
airplanes.  if this follows the same pattern this will again be  
dropped somewhere along the path.

Now regarding APOA's alarm  (see second reference above.)  Fifty  
years ago as a young and new pilot I was energized and terrified  
almost every month as AOPA came forth with a new warning that the  
general aviation world as we knew it was about to end. After a few  
years of this repeated cry of "wolf"  I grew tired and dropped out of  
the AOPA organization.  I am not saying that AOPA is "bad" but the  
fact is that they do seem to cry "wolf" about almost every remark   
that  becomes public and about many rumors that they are responsible  
for making public.

History shows that most of this turns out to be nothing more than 30  
second sound bites and quickly disappear.

I suggest we relax and see what exists after passing though the  
filter of broadcast hysteria and then lend support to defeat serious  
proposals that would end the freedom of flight as we now enjoy it.

John Milland