KR> Tires

[laser...@juno.com]

As Jim Morehead recommends, I also am happy with Desser.  

I bought these tires a year ago, less than $20 each and I got free, next
day ground shipping from L.A. to San Diego.

http://shop.desser.com/IW_Products.m4p.pvx?;MULTI_ITEM_SUBMIT

Pretty scary they're so inexpensive, but they've been fine.  And I've
been using Cheng Shin's on my motorcycles for 30 years.  They are decent,
reliable tires.  

I must have a couple hundred landings on them and, although they are
showing wear, they still withstood fully loaded high-altitude takeoffs
recently.  Take-off's are harder on tires than landing, according to a
piece in the current AOPA magazine.  High altitude (above 5000 ft.)
take-offs with crosswinds are harder still since you have to hold that
bugger down and get it going really fast before you let it off the
runway.  Otherwise, you'll get blown off the runway and to the side with
gusts and not have enough airspeed to climb.  Then you're at the mercy of
any obstacles around the airport as you nurse it along in ground effect
until you get enough airpseed to climb.  Visual cues will tell you its
rotation time but that can be a big mistake at altitude.  I just about
lost it on takeoff in high winds at Raton, NM coming back from last
year's Gathering trip.   One KR builder crashed his plane at St. John's
AZ a few years ago in just such a scenario.  I was just discussing that
incident with the airport manager there.  That plane was rebuilt and was
for sale a year or two ago.  

Anyway, I recommend Desser.  

Mike - KSEE




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KR> Wing Removal

[John Martindale]

I learnt quickly to drain the fuel out of the other wing first otherwise the
she assumes a bank angle of around 20 degrees when the wing comes off.


John Martindale
29 Jane Circuit
Toormina NSW 2452
AUSTRALIA

ph: 61 2 6658 4767 (H)
mob: 0403 432179
email: john_martind...@bigpond.com

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From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net] On Behalf
Of Dan Heath
Sent: Saturday, 24 October 2009 10:17 PM
To: 'KRnet'
Subject: RE: KR> Wing Removal

Great idea John

See N64KR at http://KRBuilder.org - Then click on the pics See you at the
2010 - KR Gathering in Richmond, Ky - I39 There is a time for building and a
time for FLYING and the time for Flying has begun.
Daniel R. Heath - Lexington, SC

-Original Message-
Subject: RE: KR> gap between wings

I think the plans are silent on removal all together.

I use two cheap adjustable office swivel seats (backs removed) on castors
under the wing to support it using the height adjustment to reflect the
dihedral. Then I remove all four bolts, fuel lines etc and just wheel the
wing out. 


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KR> Wing Removal

[Dan Heath]

Certainly.

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Subject: RE: KR> Wing Removal

Thanks Dan.I presume you are referring to the drinking beer part :-) 

KR> Wing Removal

[John Martindale]

Thanks Dan.I presume you are referring to the drinking beer part :-) 


John Martindale
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Of Dan Heath
Sent: Saturday, 24 October 2009 10:17 PM
To: 'KRnet'
Subject: RE: KR> Wing Removal

Great idea John

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KR> My personal items

[mfreem...@indy.rr.com]

Hi guys and girls;

Some good news, I just recieved a box from Chris Collins at MVN airport with 
all of my personal items in it and believe it or not nothing was damaged or 
missing except for the rubber duck antenna on my hand held radio but that's OK 
because I have a spare anyway. Even my glasses were their with only the right 
lense popped out which was easy for me to fix, so I don't even have to replace 
my glasses now. If only I could say as much for Ol' Blue. I'm really sorry 
about that.
Have agreat week everybody.
Myron D. Freeman 

KR> Tires

[Mark Jones]

I find Wicks just the opposite from you guys. I never have had a problem 
ordering from them. I still use then first. If they don't have what I need, 
then I move on.


Mark Jones (N886MJ)
Stevens Point, WI
E-mail: flyk...@charter.net
Web: www.flykr2s.com

- Original Message - 
From: "Dan Heath" 
To: ; "'KRnet'" 
Sent: Saturday, October 24, 2009 1:13 PM
Subject: FW: KR> Tires


I feel exactly the same.  I have always favored Wicks, but lately, I go to
Spruce first and I don't like doing so.  Also, Wicks just doesn't have the
stuff anymore.  Are they going into the car business?  Well, if that is what
they want, then that is what they will get.  Tell Janet that I am sorry.
Wicks has always been good to me, but it is just too hard to do business
with them now.

See N64KR at http://KRBuilder.org - Then click on the pics
See you at the 2010 - KR Gathering in Richmond, Ky - I39
There is a time for building and a time for FLYING and the time for Flying
has begun.
Daniel R. Heath - Lexington, SC

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From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net] On Behalf
Of Mark Langford
Sent: Saturday, October 24, 2009 1:37 PM
To: KRnet
Subject: Re: KR> Tires

DJ Merrill wrote:

> Just a thought, but you may consider dropping them a note to let them
> know this.  It might spur them to improve the site...

That's why I cc'd i...@wicksaircraft.com on that message, you might notice,
just like several other times I've posted similar comments.  It's no secret.

I've met with Scott Wicks about it personally, and talked to him on the
phone about it 2-3 times over the last few years.  He's assured me that
improvements were coming to both website and catalog (which is based on
their website, immediately rendering it difficult to use), but I've seen no
improvement since they hosed it all over several years ago.  I don't even
think about buying from them anymore, unless I can't find it at AS, or
it's spruce that I'm after.  Don't let me influence anybody though...that's
just my experience, and my opinion.

Mark Langford
N56ML "at" hiwaay.net
website at http://www.N56ML.com
 


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FW: KR> Tires

[Dan Heath]

I feel exactly the same.  I have always favored Wicks, but lately, I go to
Spruce first and I don't like doing so.  Also, Wicks just doesn't have the
stuff anymore.  Are they going into the car business?  Well, if that is what
they want, then that is what they will get.  Tell Janet that I am sorry.
Wicks has always been good to me, but it is just too hard to do business
with them now.

See N64KR at http://KRBuilder.org - Then click on the pics 
See you at the 2010 - KR Gathering in Richmond, Ky - I39
There is a time for building and a time for FLYING and the time for Flying
has begun.
Daniel R. Heath - Lexington, SC

-Original Message-
From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net] On Behalf
Of Mark Langford
Sent: Saturday, October 24, 2009 1:37 PM
To: KRnet
Subject: Re: KR> Tires

DJ Merrill wrote:

> Just a thought, but you may consider dropping them a note to let them
> know this.  It might spur them to improve the site...

That's why I cc'd i...@wicksaircraft.com on that message, you might notice, 
just like several other times I've posted similar comments.  It's no secret.

I've met with Scott Wicks about it personally, and talked to him on the 
phone about it 2-3 times over the last few years.  He's assured me that 
improvements were coming to both website and catalog (which is based on 
their website, immediately rendering it difficult to use), but I've seen no 
improvement since they hosed it all over several years ago.  I don't even 
think about buying from them anymore, unless I can't find it at AS, or 
it's spruce that I'm after.  Don't let me influence anybody though...that's 
just my experience, and my opinion.

Mark Langford
N56ML "at" hiwaay.net
website at http://www.N56ML.com
 


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[Larry Knox]

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KR> Tires

[Mark Langford]

DJ Merrill wrote:

> Just a thought, but you may consider dropping them a note to let them
> know this.  It might spur them to improve the site...

That's why I cc'd i...@wicksaircraft.com on that message, you might notice, 
just like several other times I've posted similar comments.  It's no secret. 
I've met with Scott Wicks about it personally, and talked to him on the 
phone about it 2-3 times over the last few years.  He's assured me that 
improvements were coming to both website and catalog (which is based on 
their website, immediately rendering it difficult to use), but I've seen no 
improvement since they hosed it all over several years ago.  I don't even 
think about buying from them anymore, unless I can't find it at AS, or 
it's spruce that I'm after.  Don't let me influence anybody though...that's 
just my experience, and my opinion.

Mark Langford
N56ML "at" hiwaay.net
website at http://www.N56ML.com
 

KR> Tires

[Dj Merrill]

On 10/24/2009 11:16 AM, Mark Langford wrote:
> I've been a Wicks fan forever, and deliberately 
> paid more for Wicks items over many years, but the website ended that for 
> me.


Just a thought, but you may consider dropping them a note to let them
know this.  It might spur them to improve the site...

-Dj

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KR> Tires

[Jim Morehead]

Good Morning all,
 
Check out the following for tires.  If you need to replace your "747" tires, 
they have them too.
 
Jim Morehead
N522PC
 
 




6900 Acco St, Montebello, CA 90640
3400 Chelsea Ave., Memphis, TN 38108


Telephone: 1-800-247-8473 or 1-323-721-4900
FAX: 1-323-721-7888

Sales/Customer Service: 
sa...@desser.com*

--- On Sat, 10/24/09, Dan Heath  wrote:


From: Dan Heath 
Subject: KR> Tires
To: "'KRnet'" 
List-Post: krnet@list.krnet.org
Date: Saturday, October 24, 2009, 7:04 AM


Where is your favourite site to get the 11x4-5.00 tires for the stock KR
wheel.  I think this is or was a Matco.



Daniel R. Heath

da...@windstream.net

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the pics 

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KR> Tires

[Mark Langford]

Dan Heath wrote:

> Where is your favourite site to get the 11x4-5.00 tires for the stock KR
> wheel.  I think this is or was a Matco.

I wondered about 8 ply tires, went to www.aircraftspruce.com and keyed in 
"Lamb tire", and immediately was staring at 6 and 8 ply Lamb tires.  I've 
ordered two 8 ply tires for next time.  By comparison, the 
www.wicksaircraft.com  site shows nothing for "Lamb tire", and even just 
"tire" doesn't get you much, mostly everything BUT tires.  It does work for 
"cheng tire", but only shows one, and it's not a 11x4-5.00, even though I 
know they sell them.  Very frustrating website, and all but useless. They 
apparently don't realize how important a functional website is to their 
business.  I've learned that I can beat my head against their website for 
ten minutes and leave frustrated, and then have my order executed about a 
minute later with AS  I've been a Wicks fan forever, and deliberately 
paid more for Wicks items over many years, but the website ended that for 
me.

There are probably other sources for these, and anybody that knows of them 
is welcome to post them.  There are other 11x4-5.00 tires out there, but the 
tread patterns are probably more conducive to gaining traction to mow lawns, 
rather than maintaining directional stability down a runway.  Then again, it 
may not make any real difference.

But the main reason I'm replying again to this is to mention tubes.  I've 
been buying Larin tubes from Fleet Farm or somewhere like that.  They are 
considerably heavier than the tubes you get from AS and Wicks.  Since I 
started using these tubes and spreading loads of talcum powder inside the 
tures and on the tubes during installation, I've had zero flat tires.  It's 
only a couple of ounces of weight per tube, but that's one place I don't 
mind carrying extra weight.

The Aero Classic tires are about twice the price of the Cheng Shins, but 
maybe they'll last twice as long, for all I know.  They both appear to be 8 
ply though.  I notice even Van's sells the 11x4-5.00 as a nose wheel tire, 
but it's more expensive than AS, at $21 rather than $17.50.

I average about 400 of my very sloppy landings on each pair of these tires, 
so in the grand scheme of things, I don't mind spending $40 to swap them out 
every year or so.

Mark Langford
N56ML "at" hiwaay.net
website at http://www.N56ML.com
 

KR> Tires

[Dan Heath]

Mark,

Since I sent out the query, I found this site.  What do you think of these?

http://www.matcomfg.com/Tire11x45008PRAeroClassic-idv-3683-38.html

Could the 8 PR, mean 8 ply?

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See you at the 2010 - KR Gathering in Richmond, Ky - I39
There is a time for building and a time for FLYING and the time for Flying
has begun.
Daniel R. Heath - Lexington, SC


-Original Message-
From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net] On Behalf
Of Mark Langford
Sent: Saturday, October 24, 2009 10:33 AM
To: KRnet
Subject: Re: KR> Tires

Dan Heath wrote:

> Where is your favourite site to get the 11x4-5.00 tires for the stock KR
> wheel.  I think this is or was a Matco.

Wicks Aircraft used to be my favorite, but last time I checked their online 
catalog, I got a bunch of hits for everything BUT tires, so now it's 
Aircraft Spruce.  They are made by Cheng Shin, but started out as "Lambs", 
and are often called that today. The supposedly come in 4, 6, and 8 ply 
versions, but it's been a long time since I've seen an 8 ply, so I buy 6 ply

tires.  If you'd seen my last pair when I took them off, you'd know why I 
want 8 ply tires...

Mark Langford
N56ML "at" hiwaay.net
website at http://www.N56ML.com
 


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KR> Tires

[Mark Langford]

Dan Heath wrote:

> Where is your favourite site to get the 11x4-5.00 tires for the stock KR
> wheel.  I think this is or was a Matco.

Wicks Aircraft used to be my favorite, but last time I checked their online 
catalog, I got a bunch of hits for everything BUT tires, so now it's 
Aircraft Spruce.  They are made by Cheng Shin, but started out as "Lambs", 
and are often called that today. The supposedly come in 4, 6, and 8 ply 
versions, but it's been a long time since I've seen an 8 ply, so I buy 6 ply 
tires.  If you'd seen my last pair when I took them off, you'd know why I 
want 8 ply tires...

Mark Langford
N56ML "at" hiwaay.net
website at http://www.N56ML.com
 

KR> Tires

[Dan Heath]

Where is your favourite site to get the 11x4-5.00 tires for the stock KR
wheel.  I think this is or was a Matco.



Daniel R. Heath

da...@windstream.net

See N64KR at   http://KRBuilder.org - Then click on
the pics 

See you at the 2010 - KR Gathering in Richmond, Ky - I39

KR> Wing gap fillet.

[MICHAEL SYLVESTER]

Thanks to all who responded to the gap question. Like almost any part of the 
building process, It looks like all methods work just fine. Now it's time to go 
downstairs and pull the trigger. Thanks again.

Mike Sylvester 
kr2s builder 
Birmingham,AL.

Cell no.205-966-3854


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KR> Wing Removal

[Dan Heath]

Great idea John

See N64KR at http://KRBuilder.org - Then click on the pics 
See you at the 2010 - KR Gathering in Richmond, Ky - I39
There is a time for building and a time for FLYING and the time for Flying
has begun.
Daniel R. Heath - Lexington, SC

-Original Message-
Subject: RE: KR> gap between wings

I think the plans are silent on removal all together.

I use two cheap adjustable office swivel seats (backs removed) on castors
under the wing to support it using the height adjustment to reflect the
dihedral. Then I remove all four bolts, fuel lines etc and just wheel the
wing out. 

KR> gap between wings

[Peter Drake]

Hi
Surely the answer is to remove the rear WAF bolts and only leave the bottom 
main spar bolt in place, when removing the wing. This would prevent any 
unnecessary stresses.
This string interests me as I am doing the wing roots as we speak.
My added complication is that I am using a version of Ken Atkinson's pushrod 
controls which has the pushrod and bellcranks in the gap. So I have inset 
the foam rib on the outboard wings 2" outwards to give clearance. then I 
have tapered the top foam from the join back to the rib and am glassing the 
inside to give the overhang strength. (a bit like Larry's)
Access to the top main WAF bolts remains a problem. I am thinking of cutting 
access holes and floxing in ally shelves with anchor nuts attached and 
fitting a 1/16" ally sheet flush inspection plate with countersunk screws 
for neatness. I can then put a similar, bigger inspection plate on the 
underneath.
Any comments

Peter Drake
Hereford UK

- Original Message - 
From: "John Martindale" 
To: "'KRnet'" 
Sent: Saturday, October 24, 2009 12:44 AM
Subject: RE: KR> gap between wings


Hey Phil

How do you do this when the bottom bolts in main and rear spar are not in
alignment (as per the plans)?

If the wing pivots downwards on them they must align otherwise one or other
will bind and strain the WAFs.


John Martindale