KR> EFI Corvair KR2 Food for thought

[Paul & Karen Smith]

 Food for thought, see photo 5 onward.

http://www.american-pi.com/corvair/corvhome.html

Following a couple of guys who have EFI on O200s, impressive results.

Paul Smith
Brisbane, AUSTRALIA
pk.sm...@bigpond.net.au
http://kr2spacemodulator.blogspot.com/

KR> Wing extension

[Christo Theron]

Hi Mark
I bought a KR2 Project witch I am extending 14" to the back. It still have
the stock 20.8 ft wingspan.
What difference did the extension on the wing make?
Regards
Christo Theron
chri...@floppysprinkler.com

KR> 14.7 AFR gauges

[Larry H.]

Mark L.

If you were going to have only one EGT probe on a Corvair engine, which 
cylinder 
would be the most beneficial to place it on? I still have some of the one cyl 
EGTs and see some for sale occasionally really cheap.
When I first started flying in 1969 (dinosaur days) most private planes did not 
have EGTs, just the cool guys were starting to have them and then usually only 
one probe/cylinder EGTs. Alcor was the best at the time and then later 
developed 
the first multi cyl EGTs that I remember. Those gages had one needle readout 
and 
a dial to switch to 4 different probes/cylinders. The pilot could only see a 
readout on one cylinder at a time, dial, see cyl #1, dial see cyl #2 etc. If 
you 
developed a problem on a cylinder that you weren't switched to then you missed 
it, unless something bad happened of course. Things have changed dramatically 
since those days thank goodness.
Larry H.

KR> Landing gear

[Ed Janssen]

Don,

You might check with Steve Bennett at GPASC who supplies the one piece gear 
for the Sonerai aircraft.  Steve used this gear on a modified KR-2 he was 
building at one time in the past.

Ed J.

--
From: "Donald Greer" 
Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 7:51 PM
To: "KRnet" 
Subject: KR> Landing gear

> A question for the field.
>
> Aside from Grove, who else makes an aluminum one-piece main gear for
> the KR2?
>
> Don Greer
> Belleville, Ontario
> (future) KR2SS builder
> don_s_gr...@sympatico.ca
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KR> Landing gear

[Donald Greer]

A question for the field.

Aside from Grove, who else makes an aluminum one-piece main gear for  
the KR2?

Don Greer
Belleville, Ontario
(future) KR2SS builder
don_s_gr...@sympatico.ca

KR> 14.7 AFR gauges

[Mark Langford]

Craig Williams wrote:

>>Maybe this is not for me after all.  My plan is to run a six into six 
>>exhaust.  EGT may be easier and cheaper if I do that.

I didn't say it wouldn't work on just one cylinder, just that most 
applications try to cover as many cylinders as possible, probably to get the 
best overall gas sample for the highest quality reading.  I have no doubt 
that reading only one cylinder would yield useful information.

Mark Langford
ML at N56ML.com
website at http://www.N56ML.com

KR> Aileron Counter Wt Bracket ?

[Dan Heath]

Aileron counter weight and bracket near the bottom.

http://krbuilder.org/Aileron/index.html

Don't have size, but can get it for you Saturday.  I used aluminum, but I am
sure the recommendation to use steel is a good one.

See N64KR at http://KRBuilder.org - Then click on the pics 
See you at the 2011 - KR Gathering in Mt. Vernon, Il - MVN
There is a time for building and it never seems to end.
Daniel R. Heath - Lexington, SC

KR> Re:Gathering date change

[Larry Flesner]

At 08:29 AM 1/27/2011, you wrote:
>Larry,
>The date change really scrambles my plans.  How many KR types would 
>have a conflct with actually going to the AOPA spam can happening?
>Sid Wood
+++

I've received several e-mails, some good, some disappointing, like 
the one from Sid.  I'm sorry the date change has messed up the plans 
of some of the attendees.  I'll try to make the reason for change a 
bit more clear.

It's not a matter of KR types attending the AOPA happening.  The 
problem arose when AOPA scheduled their east coast Light Sport Expo 
event on the same date as the Light Sprot Expo at Mt.Vernon.  It was 
a matter of Mt.Vernon airport cancelling their event or changing the 
date.  The only other date that would work for them was the date of 
our Gathering.  Having the two events on the same date would be 
"unworkable", especially for the KR crowd.  The entire ramp would be 
closed off from the terminal to the FBO with an $8 entry fee.  The 
airport had in fact considered cancelling the event and held of their 
decision until after Chris had attended Sebering and talked to the 
vendors.  They all encouraged him to hold the event.

So,  to make the best of a bad situation,  moving the Gathering back 
one week seems to be the best solution for everyone involved.  I 
regret that changing the date will keep some of the regular attendees 
from attending this year.  This will be my 21st consecutive Gathering 
and I know how much I look forward to the Gathering each year.  I'm 
guessing I may need medication for depression the year I have to 
break my attendance string.

Larry Flesner
Host, 2011 INTERNATIONAL KR Gathering

KR> 14.7 AFR gauges

[Craig Williams]

--- On Thu, 1/27/11, Mark Langford  wrote:

> From: Mark Langford 
> Subject: Re: KR> 14.7 AFR gauges

> 
> I don't know of anybody that only monitors one
> cylinder.  Mine measures 
> three, Joe Horton has two, with each measuring three, all
> automobiles 
> measure all cylinders at once downstream.
> 


 OK, that makes sense.  Maybe this is not for me after all.  My plan is to run 
a six into six exhaust.  EGT may be easier and cheaper if I do that.

KR> 14.7 AFR gauges

[Mark Langford]

Craig Williams wrote:

>>1.   With EGT we normally monitor all cyl but with AFR we are typically 
>>only monitoring one.  Is there a chance you could run one of the other 
>>cylinders too lean and burn a valve?

I don't know of anybody that only monitors one cylinder.  Mine measures 
three, Joe Horton has two, with each measuring three, all automobiles 
measure all cylinders at once downstream.

>>2.  Would you want to adjust the mixture on takeoff by this gauge to 
>>maximize HP?

You want to take off with the mixture a tad rich to minimize the possibility 
of detonation, and for max power.  It won't take you long to figure out 
where the mixture meter needs to be set to get that.  On my AFR gauge that's 
with the second LED from the top lit, and the top one no lit.

>>3.  Once leaned to 14.7 afr is there any reason other than an altitude 
>>changes to touch it?

With my Ellison (and I'm guessing most other carbs) a change of throttle 
setting will also change the mixture.  I adjust my mixture quite often while 
flying, especially after initial climbout, as I climb through 5000' feet or 
so, and then when I'm at final cruise altitude and have backed off to cruise 
rpm (about 3050, most of the time).  And not just to 14.7:1, but far below 
that, with only the lowest LED blinking occasionally.  There's more on that 
at http://www.n56ml.com/corvair/o2meter/ .

Mark Langford
ML at N56ML.com
website at http://www.N56ML.com

KR> Aileron Counter Wt Bracket ?

[phillip matheson]

I highly recommend using steel angle instead of the aluminum which is
called for in the manual. The reason is that the aluminum bracket can and
will fail causing you to loose your counterbalance weight



Or, Like I did just weld a gusset to the bottom surface and right angle of 
the alum. bracket.

Phil Matheson
SAAA Ch 37
http://www.philskr2.50megs.com/ 

KR> 14.7 AFR gauges

[Craig Williams]

Well thank you Sid!  Ever since I came to see you last weekend I have been 
pondering the AFR gauge.  Although I can't use the nice bright laser red unit 
you have because my cockpit is being done in a military style (black face 
gauges with white needles) I am hooked on the idea and will install one of 
these gadgets once I find one that can works for my style.  But I have a few 
questions I hope someone can answer.

1.  With EGT we normally monitor all cyl but with AFR we are typically only 
monitoring one.  Is there a chance you could run one of the other cylinders too 
lean and burn a valve?

2.  Would you want to adjust the mixture on takeoff by this gauge to maximize 
HP?

3.  Once leaned to 14.7 afr is there any reason other than an altitude changes 
to touch it.

Thanks again Sid for spending so much time showing me you plane.  Hope mine is 
half as nice.

Craig

KR> Aileron Counter Wt Bracket ?

[Mark Jones]

Victor,
I highly reccommend using steel angle instead of the aluminum which is 
called for in the manual. The reason is that the aluminum bracket can and 
will fail causing you to loose your counterbalance weight. This exact this 
happened to Jim Faughn at the Gathering in Red Oak, IA. As far as the 
weight, it is best to make one out of lead. The amount of lead needed 
depends on how much it takes to counterbalance your aileron. You can shape 
it any way you want. Use your imagination. Mine is basically rectangle and I 
did a fairing on the wing in front of it for the airflow.


Mark Jones (N886MJ)
Stevens Point, WI
E-mail: flyk...@charter.net
Web: www.flykr2s.com

- Original Message - 
From: 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 3:19 PM
Subject: KR> Aileron Counter Wt Bracket ?


Hello Guys and Glenda,

I can't find the aileron counter weight bracket drawings anywhere. It looks
pretty simple. Can someone tell me what it is made out of and a size?

Thanks,

Victor, headed to the airport to work on the KR... with my iphone to check 
my
email.



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KR> Aileron Counter Wt Bracket ?

[velocityo...@yahoo.com]

Hello Guys and Glenda,

I can't find the aileron counter weight bracket drawings anywhere. It looks 
pretty simple. Can someone tell me what it is made out of and a size?

Thanks,

Victor, headed to the airport to work on the KR... with my iphone to check my 
email.

KR> Emailing: Vex Aircraft

[Patrick and Robin Russo]

ooops! I guess there is a lot to learn here! Sorry. I even got the address 
wrong.
- Original Message - 
From: "L.G. McCaw" 
To: "KRnet" 
Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 11:47 AM
Subject: Re: KR> Emailing: Vex Aircraft


> Uh.. The email came through, but probably not a good idea to attach 
> your desktop shortcuts to it
>
>
>
> On Jan 27, 2011, at 10:36 AM, "Patrick and Robin Russo" 
>  wrote:
>
>> The attached is a test. Learning to use my computer.
>>
>>
>> The message is ready to be sent with the following file or link 
>> attachments:
>> Shortcut to: C:\Documents and Settings\Owner\Desktop\Vex Aircraft
>>
>> Note: To protect against computer viruses, e-mail programs may prevent 
>> sending or receiving certain types of file attachments.  Check your 
>> e-mail security settings to determine how attachments are handled.
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KR> Emailing: Vex Aircraft

[L.G. McCaw]

Uh.. The email came through, but probably not a good idea to attach your 
desktop shortcuts to it



On Jan 27, 2011, at 10:36 AM, "Patrick and Robin Russo" 
 wrote:

> The attached is a test. Learning to use my computer.
> 
> 
> The message is ready to be sent with the following file or link attachments:
> Shortcut to: C:\Documents and Settings\Owner\Desktop\Vex Aircraft
> 
> Note: To protect against computer viruses, e-mail programs may prevent 
> sending or receiving certain types of file attachments.  Check your e-mail 
> security settings to determine how attachments are handled.
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KR> Emailing: Vex Aircraft

[Patrick and Robin Russo]

The attached is a test. Learning to use my computer.


The message is ready to be sent with the following file or link attachments:
Shortcut to: C:\Documents and Settings\Owner\Desktop\Vex Aircraft

Note: To protect against computer viruses, e-mail programs may prevent sending 
or receiving certain types of file attachments.  Check your e-mail security 
settings to determine how attachments are handled.

KR> Re:Gathering date change

[Patrick Driscoll]

I would really like to have any date except the 16th & 17th. Joanne has a 
Pow-Wow in Mankato, MN on that date. She has gone to the Pow-Wow every year 
for the past 30 years except last year when she came to the gathering with 
me when the dates conflicted. If need be then 16th & 17 are OK as she will 
go to the Pow-Wow and I will go to the gathering. This was done a couple of 
times before but she really enjoys going with the gals while we look at 
airplanes.
Patrick Driscoll
Saint Paul, MN
patric...@usfamily.net

If you can read this, Thank a teacher
If you are reading this in English, thank a veteran 

KR> Re:Gathering date change

[smwood]

Larry,
The date change really scrambles my plans.  September 9 & 10 were perfect.  I 
was planning on flying my KR-2 to MVN this year.  Now it's like being 
weathered-out eight months in advance.  Does not seem to likely now with the 
conflicts in my schedule.  What are the possibilities of changing dates to 
September 30 & October 1?  Better yet, how about September 23 & 24?  How many 
KR types would have a conflct with actually going to the AOPA spam can 
happening?  

Regards,
Sid Wood
Tri-gear KR-2 N6242
smw...@md.metrocast.net

+++

Gathering attendees,

I have been communicating with Chris Collins for the last week or so 
about the necessity of changing the date for this years Gathering due 
to event conflicts at the Mt.Vernon airport.  Read his e-mail below 
for the details.  Bottom line is that the only way to work around the 
conflicts is to move our Gathering date back one week to September 16 
and 17.  I sincerely hope this date change will not cause anyone to 
change their plans to attend the Gathering, especially those planning 
to attend from outside the U.S.A.

If anyone has major concerns about this change in dates, please get 
back to me at  fles...@frontier.com

I will work with Bob Lee to insure our foreign visitors are contacted.

I will be posting, in the next week or so, a list of volunteers 
needed in the areas of judging, awards,  forums, etc.. Also, I have 
contacted the Holiday Inn for bookings and that info will be posted 
to the Gathering web page in the next few days.  I'll be getting 
started on the hats and shirts as soon as my supplier gets back from vacation.

Here we go again  :-)  How many days, Jones???

Larry Flesner
2011 Gathering Host



>Larry:
>
>Greetings from KMVN.  Several weeks ago, you and I agreed upon a 
>date for the 2011 KR National Gathering.  The KR event is currently 
>scheduled for the second weekend of September.  The Third Annual 
>Midwest LSA Expo, 
>www.midwestlsashow.com  is currently 
>scheduled for the fourth weekend in September (as it was in 
>2010).  Life is good and there are no conflicts.
>
>Early last week I learned the AOPA Aviation Summit, normally held in 
>November, has been scheduled for the fourth weekend in September, 
>2011.  I am sure there are many reasons why AOPA changed their 
>schedule.  I would guess that the new location, Hartford, 
>Connecticut, is not suitable for an aviation event in 
>November.   Regardless of their reasons, the change puts us in a 
>major quandary.
>
>The top aircraft manufacturers, aviation media, LAMA, AOPA, EAA, and 
>many aviation enthusiasts will not miss the AOPA event (meaning they 
>will not be at the Midwest LSA Expo as currently scheduled).  This 
>has forced me to make an easy decision - the dates for the Midwest 
>LSA Expo must be changed.  A later date is out of the question 
>because it places the event in October.  We believe the weekend 
>before (9/16 - 9/18/11) does not leave enough time for the 
>manufacturers and media between the MLSA Expo and the AOPA Aviation 
>Summit (some may claim they can not come to the Midwest LSA Expo 
>because they "are getting ready for AOPA").  The second weekend of 
>September would be beneficial as it would provide space between the 
>Midwest LSA Expo and the AOPA Aviation Summit.  That is the weekend 
>currently occupied by the KR National Gathering.
>
>I humbly ask members of the KR Family if they would consider the 
>weekend of September 16 through the 18th for the 2011 KR National 
>Gathering at Mt. Vernon Outland Airport.  Being flexible would allow 
>Mt. Vernon Outland Airport to grow the Midwest LSA Expo - our 
>region's only "National Aviation Event".
>
>Please call me at (618) 315-5462 if you have any questions or 
>suggestions.  I appreciate your consideration.
>
>Chris Collins
>Mt. Vernon Outland Airport
>www.mtvernonairport.com
>www.midwestlsashow.com
>(618) 315-5462
>
>