KR> Re: KRnet Digest, Vol 353, Issue 216

[Steve Rice]

I did some research on the N number. Apparently the plane was built in '75,
test flown and then NOTHING ever since. I knew that my firend had it, I had
seen it several years ago, while it was covered. HOWEVER, apparently at
somepoint it was left uncovered. Too much of the wood is rotted out.
Propable could have been fixed, but after seing that the plane was built
wrong to begin with, I feel that there is no reason to spend time fixing a
basket case. The plane was free, so I am at no loss. If someone wants the
landing gear or engine, they are welcome to come get it. I could pull that
stuff off and ship it, but the cost of shipping would probably be more than
the value of the parts. Thanks to all for your helpful thoughts and
suggestions. I I am afraid that this is one plane that will be
scraped...never to flown again...its just not safe.

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>   4. Re:  KR-1 (David Rayburn)
>   5.  Judges (Bob Glidden)
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> -- Forwarded message --
> From: Steve Rice 
> To: kr...@mylist.net
> Date: Tue, 9 Aug 2011 21:06:41 -0700
> Subject: KR> KR-1
> Ok, I got the KR-1 form a friend that had it stored forever. It was
> however,
> in far worse shape than I had thought that it was. I firgure that it is
> repairable, but I am in the process of calculating how much time and money
> it will take. Upon investigation, I discovered that the sheer web of the
> main center spar has the grain running horizontal. Looking at the manual,
> it
> shows that the grain is to be verticle. I am just learning about wood
> structure airplanes, so help here is REALLY needed. There are some big RED
> flags that I see in the construction of this plane. Am I correct in
> thinking
> that having the sheer web grain in the wrong direction is a really bad
> thing? I have some grave concerns now about restoring this plane.
> Thanks for any help
> steve...@gmail.com
>
> --
> Have a good day -- Steve
>
>
>
> -- Forwarded message --
> From: Larry Flesner 
> To: KRnet 
> Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2011 07:07:34 -0500
> Subject: Re: KR> KR-1
> At 11:06 PM 8/9/2011, you wrote:
>
>> Ok, I got the KR-1 form a friend that had it stored forever.  Upon
>> investigation, I discovered that the sheer web of the
>> main center spar has the grain running horizontal.
>>
> ++**++**
> ++**+
>
> That was a good spot.  I'm not sure how many folks would have caught that
> error.  Is the center section spar installed in the fuselage already?  Have
> the spars run through a planer and remove the ply, check the woodwork and
> rebuild.
>
> If you have "grave concerns"about the airplane you may never really be
> comfortable with it.  Getting a second or third opinion after a close
> inspection may change your mind or you may want to spend your time on a
> project more to your liking.
>
> Larry Flesner
>
>
>
>
>
> -- Forwarded message --
> From: Marty Martin 
> To: KRnet 
> Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2011 06:48:26 -0700
> Subject: Re: KR> KR-1
> Look to see just what the top and bottom spar material is.  As long as it
> is
> Stica Spruce or Clear Doug Fur.  You will be fine.  You can use a power
> hand
> planner and remove the web on both sides.  As l have done this very same
> thing but only to one side and just at the end.  So I just used a power
> hand
> planner and removed the web.  The smaller the cut the more control you
> have.  Don't get in a hurry.
>
> Of coarse, this is only the case as long as any other webbing on the
> project
> (fuselage) is correct.  don't think  you can correct the fuselage by
> glassing it.  That is just no good and it adds unneeded weight.  So if the
> fuselage is wrong, it will be good fire wood this winter.  But check out
> any
> other installed webbing to see that it is installed correctly before
> thinking you have something that can be worked.
>
> Marty Martin
>
> On Wed, Aug 10, 2011 at 5:07 AM, Larry Flesner
> wrote:
>
> > At 11:06 PM 8/9/2011, you wrote:
> > >Ok, I got the KR-1 form a friend that had it stored forever.  Upon
> > >investigation, I discovered that the sheer web of the
> > >main center spar has the grain running horizontal.
> >
> >
> 

KR> maybe not KR but

[Craig Williams]

In case you missed this.

http://www.sonexaircraft.com/press/releases/pr_081011.html

I can see my next plane being a Jet.

Craig
www.kr2seafury.com

KR> Judges

[Bob Glidden]

Larry I will be there on Thursday and would be interested in judging the
airplanes for you..



Bob Glidden 

CX4 #328

Eminence, Indiana

glid...@ccrtc.com

KR> KR-1

[David Rayburn]

If you would be in the market for a boat stage KR1 that has been done
rite with tons of extras, ( Sort of as a parts spare ) I have almost
everything you need to finish the air frame. At a price that could
save you several thousand.   And I might even be able to deliver it
for just travel expenses. This could be a cheap way to put your
restoration into fast forward.  And I guarantee you won't be
disappointed with the workmanship on this project.

Dave  314 971 3433

On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 11:06 PM, Steve Rice  wrote:
> Ok, I got the KR-1 form a friend that had it stored forever. It was however,
> in far worse shape than I had thought that it was. I firgure that it is
> repairable, but I am in the process of calculating how much time and money
> it will take. Upon investigation, I discovered that the sheer web of the
> main center spar has the grain running horizontal. Looking at the manual, it
> shows that the grain is to be verticle. I am just learning about wood
> structure airplanes, so help here is REALLY needed. There are some big RED
> flags that I see in the construction of this plane. Am I correct in thinking
> that having the sheer web grain in the wrong direction is a really bad
> thing? I have some grave concerns now about restoring this plane.
> Thanks for any help
> steve...@gmail.com
>
> --
> Have a good day -- Steve
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KR> KR-1

[Marty Martin]

Look to see just what the top and bottom spar material is.  As long as it is
Stica Spruce or Clear Doug Fur.  You will be fine.  You can use a power hand
planner and remove the web on both sides.  As l have done this very same
thing but only to one side and just at the end.  So I just used a power hand
planner and removed the web.  The smaller the cut the more control you
have.  Don't get in a hurry.

Of coarse, this is only the case as long as any other webbing on the project
(fuselage) is correct.  don't think  you can correct the fuselage by
glassing it.  That is just no good and it adds unneeded weight.  So if the
fuselage is wrong, it will be good fire wood this winter.  But check out any
other installed webbing to see that it is installed correctly before
thinking you have something that can be worked.

Marty Martin

On Wed, Aug 10, 2011 at 5:07 AM, Larry Flesner
wrote:

> At 11:06 PM 8/9/2011, you wrote:
> >Ok, I got the KR-1 form a friend that had it stored forever.  Upon
> >investigation, I discovered that the sheer web of the
> >main center spar has the grain running horizontal.
>
> +++
>
> That was a good spot.  I'm not sure how many folks would have caught
> that error.  Is the center section spar installed in the fuselage
> already?  Have the spars run through a planer and remove the ply,
> check the woodwork and rebuild.
>
>

KR> KR-1

[Larry Flesner]

At 11:06 PM 8/9/2011, you wrote:
>Ok, I got the KR-1 form a friend that had it stored forever.  Upon 
>investigation, I discovered that the sheer web of the
>main center spar has the grain running horizontal.
+++

That was a good spot.  I'm not sure how many folks would have caught 
that error.  Is the center section spar installed in the fuselage 
already?  Have the spars run through a planer and remove the ply, 
check the woodwork and rebuild.

If you have "grave concerns"about the airplane you may never 
really be comfortable with it.  Getting a second or third opinion 
after a close inspection may change your mind or you may want to 
spend your time on a project more to your liking.

Larry Flesner