KR> Fuel tank pressure test

2015-09-21 Thread Dan Heath
I believe that is the way most RV builders do it.  Vans has a kit for that.

My Panther Building Documentation at PantherBuilder Web Site

Daniel R. Heath -?Lexington, SC


-Original Message-

To pressure test a tank you use a pressure gauge connected to a T fitting
screwed in to the tank.
One of the T connections to the tank
Another to the pressure gauge
The third to the valve
Open the valve to allow air to go in to the tank Close the valve and make
sure the pressure doesnt drop after a set time say 24 hours.
Open valve to vent the tank and then unscrew the T.




KR> Carb Recommendation

2015-09-21 Thread Dan Heath
Never had a problem with an Ellison, any model.  It is "plug and chug".

My Panther Building Documentation at PantherBuilder Web Site

Daniel R. Heath -?Lexington, SC

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From: KRnet [mailto:krnet-bounces at list.krnet.org] On Behalf Of Global
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Sent: Monday, September 21, 2015 8:56 PM
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Cc: Global Solutions
Subject: KR> Carb Recommendation

Good Evening fellow Kr People.
Last week I had the pleasure of going for a ride in a KR2S aircraft at the
Oshawa airport. Upon inspection of the aircraft which was built and flown by
/Chris Gardiner. /His craftsmanship and attention to detail gave me KR
fever.
His aircraft was a solid well build VW powered aircraft. I am now looking at
carburetors for my 110 hp engine which currently is in a car.
 From the reading and talking to others it would seem that several carbs are
an option and as such I would ask that anyone who has tested them give me
and the list some feedback as to the experience good or bad with the
following list or any others that have been tested.

Marvel MA3-SPA
Stromberg NAS-3
Ellison EFS-3A
Zenith 268
Rotec #3

Regards
Stan

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KR> Comparison of Carbon Fiber, Kevlar (Aramid) and E Glass used in Composites for Boat building.

2015-09-21 Thread Global Solutions
Although this is for boats I thought it might be of interest to the list 
for aircraft

*
Comparison of Carbon Fiber, Kevlar (Aramid) and E Glass used in 
Composites for Boatbuilding.*

*For more detailed description of the characteristics of Kevlar and 
Carbon Fiber follow the links at the top.*

*Epoxy*

Your can't talk about composite fibers without introducing epoxy. Epoxy 
is used to bind whatever strengthening fiber is being used and to lock 
them in position so they can stay in position to do their job. Fiber 
reinforced structures usually have the fibers running in specific 
directions to focus the reinforcement where it is needed and the epoxy 
keeps the fibers where they are needed. Although the main purpose of the 
epoxy matrix is to adhere to and transfer the loads to the fibers it is 
a strong material in its own right. It helps protect the fibers from 
damage and provides impact resistance.

Polyepoxide or as it is better known Epoxy, is a thermosetting network 
polymer which forms when an epoxyide resin reacts with a polyamine 
hardener. The resulting Epoxy polymer is heavily cross linked 
(networked), and thus strong, hard and rigid. It is also somewhat brittle.

Epoxy has found a wide range of applications, including fiber-reinforced 
plastic materials, general purpose adhesives and strong chemically 
resistant coatings and finishes.

Although epoxy bond mechanically if the surfaces are rough, the 
strongest bond is by far an ionic bond with its reinforcing fibers. 
That's why not all fibres are suitable as epoxy composite. The epoxy 
simply does not stick to everything.

Epoxy has proved to be a relatively safe material. The main risk 
associated with epoxy use is sensitization to the hardener which can 
result in serious allergic reactions, which can occur even after a few 
days. This can become asthma in sensitive individuals. Bisphenol A, 
which is used in epoxy resin, is a known endocrine disruptor.

It's always better to protect yourself by working with gloves and at the 
very least have a well ventilated area. Respirators are helpful if you 
have a tendency to react to chemicals.

Cured Epoxy is very resistant but will degrade if exposed to UV. The 
surface becomes chalky and looses strength. For this reason it needs to 
be coated with UV protection. Epoxy strength is degraded when exposed to 
higher temperatures. Over 350 ?F (177 ?C).

**

*Tensile Strength*

*Tensile Strength*

Tensile Strength is the maximum stress that a material can withstand, 
while being stretched, before if fails. Some non brittle material 
distorts before breaking, but Kevlar, Carbon Fiber and E glass are 
brittle and fail with almost no distortion. It is measured in Force per 
unit area: Pa or Pascals. Ultimate tensile strength (UTS) or ultimate 
strength are terms also used.

Stress is the force, strain is the deflection due to stress.

*Comparing the Tensile Strength of
E Glass, Carbon Fiber and Kevlar (Aramid) MPa*

Note: These figures are for comparison purpose. They can vary with the 
manufacturing process, composition of the epoxy, formulation of the 
aramid, precursor fibre for the Carbon fiber.



Fibre Strength



Laminate Strength

E Glass



3450



1500

Carbon Fiber



4127



1600

Kevlar



2757



1430

Epoxy



N/A



12-40

The tensile strength of Carbon Fiber, Kevlar and Glass is similar. This 
comes as quite a surprise to many people.

When making comparisons it's important to note that there are 
differences in each of the materials in manufacturing processes, 
precursor materials, and after-treatments. These all influence the 
strength. The figures are given for comparison only, The figures given 
in this article mostly come from Wikipedia and from the spec sheets of 
manufacturing companies.

In the end if *Tensile Strength* is your only concern, use e glass.

**

**

**

**

*Density and Strength to Weight Ratio*

*Weight per Unit Volume or Density of Carbon fibre, Kevlar, and E Glass*

The Denser a material is the heavier it will feel for an equal sized chunk.

When we compare the density of our 3 materials we see a significant 
difference. If we make up 3 samples exactly the same size and weight 
them we quickly see that Kevlar fiber is much lighter, Carbon Fibre is 
next and the E Glass is the heaviest. So for the same weight of 
composite we get more strength.

In other words, any structure where we require a given strength can be 
smaller, or thinner if made out of carbon fiber or Kevlar composite than 
if made out of glass.

If you wanted to do this comparison for yourself you could prepare 3 
samples of exactly the same size. After weighting them you would then 
test them for strength.

Once you looked at your results you would see that the strength of the 3 
samples is about the same. You would also find that the Glass composite 
is almost twice as heavy as the Kevlar or the Carbon Fiber Laminates. In 
other words it takes half as much Carbon or Aramid fiber to get the same 

KR> Carb Recommendation

2015-09-21 Thread Global Solutions
Good Evening fellow Kr People.
Last week I had the pleasure of going for a ride in a KR2S aircraft at 
the Oshawa airport. Upon inspection of the aircraft which was built and 
flown by /Chris Gardiner. /His craftsmanship and attention to detail 
gave me KR fever.
His aircraft was a solid well build VW powered aircraft. I am now 
looking at carburetors for my 110 hp engine which currently is in a car.
 From the reading and talking to others it would seem that several carbs 
are an option and as such I would ask that anyone who has tested them 
give me and the list some feedback as to the experience good or bad with 
the following list or any others that have been tested.

Marvel MA3-SPA
Stromberg NAS-3
Ellison EFS-3A
Zenith 268
Rotec #3

Regards
Stan



KR> Fuel tank pressure test

2015-09-21 Thread Mark Langford
It's worth reminding folks that we are talking very low pressure here, 
in the order of one PSI or less, if you don't want to blow up your tank. 
  I've checked my lungs with a high resolution pressure gauge, and I can 
bearly blow 1 psi, for an instant.  The balloon method prevents 
disasters that can happen when using an air compressor for this job. 
Personally, I build the bottom of the tank and fill it with gasoline for 
the night, and come back and check it the next day, then install the top 
onto a bed of flox, and glass the outside of the joint again.   By 
filling the bottom, you at least prove the critical bottom four joints 
are good before you button the whole thing up.  If it leaks around the 
top, you can either fix it or don't fill it quite all the way up. 
N56ML's header tank was that way, but I learned from the experience and 
never had another leak on the other two tanks.

Mark Langford
ML at N56ML.com
http://www.n56ml.com




KR> Fuel tank pressure test

2015-09-21 Thread Global Solutions
To pressure test a tank you use a pressure gauge connected to a T 
fitting screwed in to the tank.
One of the T connections to the tank
Another to the pressure gauge
The third to the valve
Open the valve to allow air to go in to the tank
Close the valve and make sure the pressure doesnt drop after a set time 
say 24 hours.
Open valve to vent the tank and then unscrew the T.
Use same process for other tanks.

Regards
Stan


On 2015-09-21 7:29 PM, Paul VISK via KRnet wrote:
> A cheap way to pressure test your fuel tank. $1.00 bag of balloons at the 
> dollar store.  I learned it from a Lancer builder.
>
> Paul ViskBelleville Il618-406-4705
>
>
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KR> Fuel tank pressure test

2015-09-21 Thread Paul VISK
It's much easier to patch a leak after an air test then it is a water test.?


Paul ViskBelleville Il618-406-4705

 Original message From: Flesner via KRnet  Date: 9/21/2015  8:00 PM  (GMT-06:00) To: KRnet  Cc: Flesner  Subject: Re: KR> Fuel 
tank pressure test 


>? After you pass the pressure test then you can go in with water and 
> let set for days
+

Don't bother with a water test.? You can have pin holes that will not 
pass water but will allow the entire take of gasoline to drain over time.

Larry Flesner 


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KR> Fuel tank pressure test

2015-09-21 Thread Paul VISK
Stan, ?Your way is one of many ways to do it. My way and the way many Lancair 
builders do it has been flight proven and is cheap with the same out come.?

Paul ViskBelleville Il618-406-4705

 Original message From: Global Solutions via KRnet  Date: 9/21/2015  7:20 PM  (GMT-06:00) To: KRnet  Cc: Global Solutions  Subject: Re: KR> 
Fuel tank pressure test 
To pressure test a tank you use a pressure gauge connected to a T 
fitting screwed in to the tank.
One of the T connections to the tank
Another to the pressure gauge
The third to the valve
Open the valve to allow air to go in to the tank
Close the valve and make sure the pressure doesnt drop after a set time 
say 24 hours.
Open valve to vent the tank and then unscrew the T.
Use same process for other tanks.

Regards
Stan


On 2015-09-21 7:29 PM, Paul VISK via KRnet wrote:
> A cheap way to pressure test your fuel tank. $1.00 bag of balloons at the 
> dollar store.? I learned it from a Lancer builder.
>



KR> Fuel tank pressure test

2015-09-21 Thread Flesner


>  After you pass the pressure test then you can go in with water and 
> let set for days
+

Don't bother with a water test.  You can have pin holes that will not 
pass water but will allow the entire take of gasoline to drain over time.

Larry Flesner 




KR> Fuel tank pressure test

2015-09-21 Thread Paul VISK
You're only talking a couple hours. After you pass the pressure test then you 
can go in with water and let set for days.?

Paul ViskBelleville Il618-406-4705

 Original message From: "pk.smith at bigpond.net.au via KRnet" 
 Date: 9/21/2015  6:47 PM  (GMT-06:00) To: KRnet 
 Cc: pk.smith at bigpond.net.au Subject: Re: KR> Fuel 
tank pressure test 
Be aware the balloon will expand and contract with any change in tank 
temperature. Take your measurements when the temperature is the same on 2 
consecutive days. 
Paul. 

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Cc: "Paul VISK" 
Subject: KR> Fuel tank pressure test
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Date: Tue, Sep 22, 2015 9:29 AM

A cheap way to pressure test your fuel tank. $1.00 bag of balloons at the 
dollar store.? I learned it from a Lancer builder. 

Paul ViskBelleville Il618-406-4705
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KR> Fuel tank pressure test

2015-09-21 Thread Paul VISK
A cheap way to pressure test your fuel tank. $1.00 bag of balloons at the 
dollar store. ?I learned it from a Lancer builder.?

Paul ViskBelleville Il618-406-4705

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KR> Last Call! 12th Annual Alternative Engine Round-Up and Experimental Aircraft Fly-in

2015-09-21 Thread Oscar Zuniga





>From Pat Panzera:

Friends,




It?s just a few days away!



12th Annual  Alternative
Engine Round-Up and Experimental Aircraft Fly-in is this Saturday, September 
26th,
 at French Valley Airport (F70) Murrieta
California, (Near Temecula on the Los Angles Sectional).



It?s a one-day, totally free event (there might be a $7
tie-down fee imposed by the airport) and the 10-day forecast calls for severe
clear! http://www.weather.com/weather/tenday/l/Temecula+CA+92592:4:US



While the experimental aircraft on display (hopefully yours!!!) will be the 
feature, we?ll also have
educational forums all day inside a very nice air-conditioned building with
real bathrooms.  



Here?s the line-up:

   8:00am - Arrivals and parking, EAA Chapter 1279

  9:00 am - Automobile
Engines in Experimental Aircraft, Pat Panzera

10:00 am - Caravella
Aerospace presents the CaraVellair Prototype Roadable Aircraft, Joe Caravella

11:00 am - Revmaster R-2300 and R-3000, Joe Horvath

12:00 pm - Pegasus
Power Systems - The O-100 Engine(1/2 O-200), Pete Plumb

  1:00 pm - Ellison
Throttle Body Injectors  The KR-2 by
nVAero, Steve Glover

  2:00 pm - Building, flying and maintaining the tandem-wing
Viking Dragonfly, Tom Hall

  3:00 pm - Corvair Confab - looking for a presenter!

  4:00 pm - Rotary Round-up,  Mazda Rotary Engines for Aircraft, looking for
a presenter!

  6:00 pm - Dinner at the airport Restaurant. Nothing formal,
just join us. EAA Chapter 1279



Commercial displays:
* Revmaster Aviation ? unveiling their new turbocharged Revmaster R-2300
* Pegasus Power Systems - The O-100 Engine
* Caravella Aerospace -  the CaraVellair
Prototype Roadable Aircraft

?and hopefully Tom Aberlee, Reno record breaking Phantom biplane.
...and of course displaying is FREE!



If you?d like to display or volunteer for presenting a forum, please contact me
ASAP!!!






Thanks!

And I humbly apologize if you get this message more than
once. It just means that you and I are on multiple email lists together.
  Oh yeah! PLEASE forward this message to anyone you think
might be interested in, especially email groups that are about homebuilt
aircraft. 

Pat Panzeraeditor at contactmagazine.com



Our Website: www.contactmagazine.com











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KR> Two for one

2015-09-21 Thread iflyexp at gmail.com
Hey guys, I am now to the point of accepting offers for my two projects. One is 
KR1 boat stage lots done and the other is KR2 also boat stage with lots done. I 
was asking $3250.00 for both with all the items I have for them. To much to 
list so if interested, contact me for info and pics.
Thanks
Bob 740-504-2692 or iflyexp at gmail.com



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KR> iFly vs ForeFlight

2015-09-21 Thread Bill Jacobs
Hello Mike,

I would like to buy your anywhere map ATC chen the time comes please.

Thanks,

Bill

Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android

From:"Mike Stirewalt via KRnet" 
List-Post: krnet@list.krnet.org
Date:Sun, Sep 20, 2015 at 9:43 PM
Subject:KR> iFly vs ForeFlight

>? "iFly makes another model however that's the same size as my ATC and
would fit my current
mount.? It's called the 520 and has all the goodies of the larger
version, plus it's cheaper."


Well, that's not true.? It doesn't have all the goodies of the larger
version.? It's missing wi-fi so any ADS-B equipment would need to be
hooked up via serial to mini-USB.? Which isn't a bad idea.? A mass corona
ejection would knock out wi-fi too.? 

The iFly 720 model is down to $699, limited quantities.? 

Why can't they just say $700?? Everybody does this . . . do they think
they're fooling us?? I guess I ought to be used to it.? I find it
annoying.? 

I'm going to be selling my Anywheremap ATC at some point if anyone's
interested.? $29.99.? Back in 2007 got the Sun & Fun Special Price which
worked out to over $700 by the time I added on the "screen armor"
(incorrectly cut screen protector film) and extra special stylus (piece
of pointed plastic).

Mike
KSEE


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