KR> RE: KR FBW and other "stuff"

2010-11-03 Thread Bob Buzby 

Hey ! they are going to kick you off this site for saying things like this...be 
Careful what you write...do not Experiment with your writing...

I have been warned twice now...

(in fact, this may be my Third Strike...i can only hope i am Forgiven for this 
Reply...in the Spirit of Experimentalism...)-Bob

> Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2010 14:19:52 -0700
> From: ronwrig...@yahoo.com
> Subject: Re: KR> RE: KR FBW and other "stuff"
> To: kr...@mylist.net
> 
> Because it is an "EXPERIMENT"..  That's what Experimental aircraft building 
> is all about!!  Fun.  Change.  Try something that no one else has tried.
> 
> Ron
> 
> --- On Wed, 11/3/10, M Blank  wrote:
> 
> > From: M Blank 
> > Subject: KR> RE: KR FBW and other "stuff"
> > To: kr...@mylist.net
> > Date: Wednesday, November 3, 2010, 3:41 PM
> > 
> > I am not a KR flier I am in the process of building a KR
> > when I am not flying my Mooney, I have an A/P and lots of
> > nice "gadgets" in the Mooney, but, the Mooney is a much
> > larger plane than a KR. So the question I have is, "What the
> > HECK does any of this yackety yack have to do with building
> > a KR. These things are tiny little planes, would be like
> > trying to turn an MGB into a motorhome.
> > 
> > Mike
> > 
> > 
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KR> welding aluminum

2010-11-02 Thread Bob Buzby 

or, was that Plato...?  (another soul with many Ideas...LOL !)

> From: fatl...@hotmail.com
> To: kr...@mylist.net
> Subject: RE: KR> welding aluminum
> Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2010 14:33:15 -0700
> 
> 
> "Necessity is the Mother of Invention..."  -Jonathan Swift  (16th 
> Century ?  -"Gulliver's Travels")
> 
> > Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2010 17:19:11 -0400
> > Subject: Re: KR> welding aluminum
> > From: jose.fuen...@gmail.com
> > To: kr...@mylist.net
> > 
> > LOL thanks, I have so many custom changes to my BD plane that anyone
> > experenced with the model will note them real fast LOL.
> > 
> > I've been wanting to do a fly by wire design too, would be super easy, but
> > I've been stuck on how to do the backup stick for manual control if
> > something was to happen to the electronics.
> > 
> > joe
> > 
> > On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 5:15 PM, Bob Buzby <fatl...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > 
> > >
> > > excellent experimental philosophy...!   LOL !
> > >
> > > > Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2010 16:51:44 -0400
> > > > Subject: Re: KR> welding aluminum
> > > > From: jose.fuen...@gmail.com
> > > > To: kr...@mylist.net
> > >  >
> > > > Is the goal here to make alumn tanks?
> > > >
> > > > I did that for my BD4 but, I had made a cardboard mockup of the tank 
> > > > that
> > > > fits in the hole and gave it to a shop and said MAKE IT REAL, they made
> > > it
> > > > real alright LOL.
> > > >
> > > > Next time I'm going to use that foam stuff and place a big bag in the
> > > area
> > > > and fill it with the foam and wait for it to harden, probably alot 
> > > > easier
> > > to
> > > > make a mold that way LOL.
> > > >
> > > > Joe
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 3:20 PM, Craig Williams <kr2seaf...@yahoo.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > John,
> > > > >
> > > > > Yes, all that I have read and seen about gas welding aluminum 
> > > > > indicates
> > > > > that finessing the flame is key.  The only way to learn it is by doing
> > > and
> > > > > getting the feel.  I look forward to the challenge.
> > > > >
> > > > > Craig
> > > > > www.kr2seafury.com
> > > > >
> > > > > --- On Tue, 11/2/10, John Caudle <jdl...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > From: John Caudle <jdl...@yahoo.com>
> > > > > Subject: Re: KR> welding aluminum
> > > > > To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net>
> > > > > Date: Tuesday, November 2, 2010, 4:48 PM
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi Craig,
> > > > >
> > > > > Welding aluminum with gas is about the same as using a TIG.
> > > > > With gas you will also need flux. Aluminum welding takes lots of
> > > practice.
> > > > > I would suggest you pickup some stock that is thinner than what you
> > > > > will be using to build the tank and practice. Heat control is the road
> > > to
> > > > > success.  When the aluminum will turn shinny one of two things will
> > > happen.
> > > > > 1) You make a hole.  2) You start welding.
> > > > >
> > > > > net.org/info.html
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
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> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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KR> welding aluminum

2010-11-02 Thread Bob Buzby 

"Necessity is the Mother of Invention..."  -Jonathan Swift  (16th 
Century ?  -"Gulliver's Travels")

> Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2010 17:19:11 -0400
> Subject: Re: KR> welding aluminum
> From: jose.fuen...@gmail.com
> To: kr...@mylist.net
> 
> LOL thanks, I have so many custom changes to my BD plane that anyone
> experenced with the model will note them real fast LOL.
> 
> I've been wanting to do a fly by wire design too, would be super easy, but
> I've been stuck on how to do the backup stick for manual control if
> something was to happen to the electronics.
> 
> joe
> 
> On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 5:15 PM, Bob Buzby <fatl...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> 
> >
> > excellent experimental philosophy...!   LOL !
> >
> > > Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2010 16:51:44 -0400
> > > Subject: Re: KR> welding aluminum
> > > From: jose.fuen...@gmail.com
> > > To: kr...@mylist.net
> >  >
> > > Is the goal here to make alumn tanks?
> > >
> > > I did that for my BD4 but, I had made a cardboard mockup of the tank that
> > > fits in the hole and gave it to a shop and said MAKE IT REAL, they made
> > it
> > > real alright LOL.
> > >
> > > Next time I'm going to use that foam stuff and place a big bag in the
> > area
> > > and fill it with the foam and wait for it to harden, probably alot easier
> > to
> > > make a mold that way LOL.
> > >
> > > Joe
> > >
> > > On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 3:20 PM, Craig Williams <kr2seaf...@yahoo.com>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > > John,
> > > >
> > > > Yes, all that I have read and seen about gas welding aluminum indicates
> > > > that finessing the flame is key.  The only way to learn it is by doing
> > and
> > > > getting the feel.  I look forward to the challenge.
> > > >
> > > > Craig
> > > > www.kr2seafury.com
> > > >
> > > > --- On Tue, 11/2/10, John Caudle <jdl...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > From: John Caudle <jdl...@yahoo.com>
> > > > Subject: Re: KR> welding aluminum
> > > > To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net>
> > > > Date: Tuesday, November 2, 2010, 4:48 PM
> > > >
> > > > Hi Craig,
> > > >
> > > > Welding aluminum with gas is about the same as using a TIG.
> > > > With gas you will also need flux. Aluminum welding takes lots of
> > practice.
> > > > I would suggest you pickup some stock that is thinner than what you
> > > > will be using to build the tank and practice. Heat control is the road
> > to
> > > > success.  When the aluminum will turn shinny one of two things will
> > happen.
> > > > 1) You make a hole.  2) You start welding.
> > > >
> > > > net.org/info.html
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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> > >
> > >
> > >
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> > > Former Microsoft MVP
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> 
> 
> 
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KR> welding aluminum

2010-11-02 Thread Bob Buzby 

excellent experimental philosophy...!   LOL !

> Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2010 16:51:44 -0400
> Subject: Re: KR> welding aluminum
> From: jose.fuen...@gmail.com
> To: kr...@mylist.net
> 
> Is the goal here to make alumn tanks?
> 
> I did that for my BD4 but, I had made a cardboard mockup of the tank that
> fits in the hole and gave it to a shop and said MAKE IT REAL, they made it
> real alright LOL.
> 
> Next time I'm going to use that foam stuff and place a big bag in the area
> and fill it with the foam and wait for it to harden, probably alot easier to
> make a mold that way LOL.
> 
> Joe
> 
> On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 3:20 PM, Craig Williams  wrote:
> 
> > John,
> >
> > Yes, all that I have read and seen about gas welding aluminum indicates
> > that finessing the flame is key.  The only way to learn it is by doing and
> > getting the feel.  I look forward to the challenge.
> >
> > Craig
> > www.kr2seafury.com
> >
> > --- On Tue, 11/2/10, John Caudle  wrote:
> >
> > From: John Caudle 
> > Subject: Re: KR> welding aluminum
> > To: "KRnet" 
> > Date: Tuesday, November 2, 2010, 4:48 PM
> >
> > Hi Craig,
> >
> > Welding aluminum with gas is about the same as using a TIG.
> > With gas you will also need flux. Aluminum welding takes lots of practice.
> > I would suggest you pickup some stock that is thinner than what you
> > will be using to build the tank and practice. Heat control is the road to
> > success.  When the aluminum will turn shinny one of two things will happen.
> > 1) You make a hole.  2) You start welding.
> >
> > net.org/info.html
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> >
> 
> 
> 
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KR> Flying last-night with the full-moon

2010-10-24 Thread Bob Buzby 

that is: beyond perfect...   and perfectly beyond......Thank You for your 
written bliss...

> Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2010 14:24:57 -0700
> From: ttcsem...@yahoo.com
> To: kr...@mylist.net
> Subject: KR> Flying last-night with the full-moon
> 
> 
> I went up last night to take log some full-moon time.   I haven't done night 
> flying in many years and can't remember ever flying with a full-moon (in a 
> civilian aircraft).  I tried a couple nights ago but between the time I 
> started my preflight and was ready to climb in for the start the weather went 
> from beautiful moon-light skies to overcast.   And I'm not slow! 
>  
> Last night was perfect.  Skies mostly clear and light and variable surface 
> winds.At around 10pm on this Saturday evening the radio traffic on tower 
> frequency was very light.My airport destination on the eastern plains of 
> Colorado was approx 55 N.miles at 101 degrees Mag Heading.   It was very 
> smooth and found I had a 20mph tailwind at about 2000agl.  The skies seemed 
> to belong to me with almost no air traffic to be seen.It seemed there was 
> plenty of highway traffic far off into the distance.I had the desire to 
> keep flying far into the night and would've if I could only tune into AM 
> radio to keep me company.
>  
> Nearing my destination I keyed 122.9 a few times and the runway lights 
> illuminated.  Coming overhead I could see the nearby Wendy's - convenience 
> store and trinket shop complex was already closed but there was another 
> convience store - gas station open across the street.   Descending into the 
> pattern I could see my moonshine shadow on the empty fields below.  I greased 
> the landing, as usual,  but at the ramp I could find no tiedown ropes or 
> chains whatsoever!   I taxied around in circles looking but found none.  
> With the lack of surface winds and apparent stable weather I decided I could 
> chance it without tying-down.  I parked next to the the only other aircraft 
> on the ramp which was chained down.  HIs windscreen was covered with dew and 
> I wondered if that would happen to my little bird.   It was approaching 
> midnight.
>  
> I walked that 1/2mile in the cold darkness to the convenience store, bought 
> goodies and coffee and headed back.   As I walked along the road some 
> country-guy stopped to offer me a ride in his pickup truck but I told him 
> "I'm just going over to the airport", pointing. 
>  
> I climbed aboard, settled things in, fired it up and continued.I could 
> kiss my motor as it runs so nicely.Taxiing toward a place for runup I 
> passed a tiedown spot with chains.  Curse.  I was concerned about having 
> enough runway to get off so on the roll I gave it 10 degrees of flaps as the 
> book suggests.   My cup of coffee was parked between my legs.  My plane 
> (bluebird) floated off nicely and climbed out over the dark treeless 
> countryside.   Turning left toward home I passed a truck-packed truck-stop 
> after a mile.   I broke out the sandwich and enjoyed the ride and view, 
> steering with my rudder pedals.
>  
> I  kept it a lower altitude to avoid the winds aloft.   I practiced some 
> instrument flying and may as well have been in a simulator as it was so 
> smooth.I passed by some car with headlights on in the middle of a large 
> field and wondered what was going on there.  
>  
> Fast-forward,  arrived at my destination, squeeked it on again made the first 
> turnoff onto the ramp and my nearby parking spot.  The tower didn't even 
> bother to say 'taxi to parking this frequency'.I forgot to say 'goodnight 
> tower' but maybe that would've made them sleepy.
>  
> I'll go somewhere else next time the moon comes around.  
>  
>  
>  
>  
> 
> 
>   
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KR> progress

2010-10-24 Thread Bob Buzby 

so Beautiful...you have set me to dreaming...Thank You for the post...

> Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2010 20:01:20 +
> From: rkp...@comcast.net
> To: kr...@mylist.net
> Subject: KR> progress
> 
> 
> 
> Hi Everyone, 
> 
>  Today I got my nerve up to start cutting on the panel.Before long I realized 
> I made a mistake on the 3 1/8" cut outs, I placed them to close to each 
> other.So to fix the problem I turned the two on the bottom into 2 1/4" holes. 
> One very important thing to remember when building  a Kr, it's not messed up 
> until you can't fix it. 
> 
> Robert Pesak 
> 
> Hermitage, Tn. 
> 
> http://photobucket.com/robertskrs 
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KR> Here's something to ponder

2010-10-19 Thread Bob Buzby 

i love all your crazy ideas...(i think that's how people began to fly in the 
first place...)

> Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2010 13:44:08 -0700
> From: kr2seaf...@yahoo.com
> To: kr...@mylist.net
> CC: t...@corsair82.com
> Subject: KR> Here's something to ponder
> 
> More crazy ideas from the Sea Fury guy.  I got a million of them.  LOL
> 
> 
> I have been thinking alot about my tanks and the aluminum versions I got with 
> the plane.  Don't like them!  Heavy, no access once they are installed and I 
> don't want a header tank either.  Soo, what about using drop tanks on my 
> Seafury.  http://www.kr2seafury.com/resources/1963seafury1of4.jpg  They would 
> be 
> 10" diameter and 30 inches long and that will give me about 12-13 gal each 
> side.  Hard points 12 outside of the WAF seem to be a good spot.  The RAF 
> wing 
> is almost 48 inch chord at that point.  Flat plate area should be small so 
> the 
> only issue I see would be handling.  And the fact that I am headed for an 
> O-235 
> motor.  Which is what I will do If I need to.  My goal is still a 130kt 
> cruise.
> 
> Craig
> www.kr2seafury.com
> 
> 
> 
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KR> KR-1 Plans

2010-10-18 Thread Bob Buzby 

i am happy with what i bought...Ken Rand was an amazing man...'nuff said for 
me...i learned a lot...

> Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2010 13:29:56 -0700
> From: jdl...@yahoo.com
> Subject: Re: KR> KR-1 Plans
> To: kr...@mylist.net
> 
> Hi Ed,
> 
> I would say they are a little better now... 8 -)
> 
> J.E. Caudle
> 
> Fenwick, WV
> 
> 363TB (On the Bench)
> <>
> 
> Early KR-1 plans were pretty cheap (cost and quality) - at least the set I 
> had -  
> <>
> 
> 
> 
> 
>   
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KR> KR-1 Plans

2010-10-18 Thread Bob Buzby 

mine cost about $70 and i Could build it, too...ji'm just not sure it would 
Fly...

> Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2010 12:55:04 -0700
> From: mijni...@yahoo.com
> Subject: Re: KR> KR-1 Plans
> To: kr...@mylist.net
> 
> Mine cost $15.00 if I remember right,but I could build the airplane from them.
> 
> 
> - Original Message 
> From: Ed Janssen 
> To: KRnet 
> Sent: Mon, October 18, 2010 3:00:51 PM
> Subject: Re: KR> KR-1 Plans
> 
> Early KR-1 plans were pretty cheap (cost and quality) - at least the set I 
> had -  sorta gave you an idea how to put the plane together, leaving much to 
> the imagination.  It had such detailed directions as "fit and fair the 
> aileron to the wing."
> 
> Ed J.
> 
> --
> From: "John Caudle" 
> Sent: Monday, October 18, 2010 1:10 PM
> To: "KRnet" 
> Subject: Re: KR> KR-1 Plans
> 
> > Hi Matt,
> >
> > Thanks for your reply!  It sounds like I have what you have.
> > The last change was in the 80' (I think...)
> 
> 
> 
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> 
>   
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KR> KR-1 Plans

2010-10-18 Thread Bob Buzby 

now you have me laughing...thank you...  

my plans have no fuselage drawings...nor dimensions...

i think a few 'things' were skipped...   fit and fair ! haha !

> From: ejans...@chipsnet.com
> To: kr...@mylist.net
> Subject: Re: KR> KR-1 Plans
> Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2010 14:00:51 -0500
> 
> Early KR-1 plans were pretty cheap (cost and quality) - at least the set I 
> had -  sorta gave you an idea how to put the plane together, leaving much to 
> the imagination.  It had such detailed directions as "fit and fair the 
> aileron to the wing."
> 
> Ed J.
> 
> --
> From: "John Caudle" 
> Sent: Monday, October 18, 2010 1:10 PM
> To: "KRnet" 
> Subject: Re: KR> KR-1 Plans
> 
> > Hi Matt,
> >
> > Thanks for your reply!  It sounds like I have what you have.
> > The last change was in the 80' (I think...)
>  
> 
> 
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KR> keg

2010-09-02 Thread Bob Buzby 

sheesh...was that dude serious...?  that is truly frightening...

light the fire and fly...

> From: flyk...@charter.net
> To: kr...@mylist.net
> Subject: Re: KR> keg
> Date: Thu, 2 Sep 2010 16:54:30 -0500
> 
> >Quite frankly I'm getting quite sick of all this 'root beer' talk.
> >Cheers,
> 
> Me too. I doubt there will be an actual root beer on the airport.
> 
> Light the fire and tap the keg. There are only 7 days till the fun starts. 
> 
> Mark Jones (N886MJ)
> Stevens Point, WI
> E-mail: flyk...@charter.net
> Web: www.flykr2s.com
> 
> 
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2010-02-02 Thread Bob Buzby 

old fiberglass fishin' rod...

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> Date: Tue, 2 Feb 2010 15:30:24 -0700
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> Pete,
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> I would suggest mail order look for kite spars.. into the wind  in 
> Boulder Colorado has fiberglass wound spars 1/4 in od for about 2-3 bucks.
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> I hope that helps.
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> -Jeff
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