KR>firewall and spar question

[Edwin Blocher]

Justin,
Yes you get two thicknesses of 3 1/2" X 5/8" plus a 1/4" shelf top and
bottom of them.
As for Douglas Fir. It is 125% heavier (bad news), at least twice as strong,
and cheaper if you can find it than Sitka spruce. My advice is as always,"if
it ain't broke don't fix it". Stick with spruce.
It is hard to find in Aviation grade.
ED
Ed Blocher
Santa Rosa Beach, FL
ebloc...@earthlink.net
- Original Message -
From: "Justin" 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2003 11:55 PM
Subject: KR>firewall and spar question


I was looking over the plans and for the firewall forward deck I have a
slight confusion. For the KR2S do we put 2 top firewall members (3 1/2" X
5/8") back to back?

Im also getting ready (wood shopping) for my wing spar wood. Is there
any prblem with using Duglas, anythign special I need to know before I make
a mistake?
Justin
N116JW
www.geocities.com/attngrabber14/Home
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KR>LED nav lights on sale

[Edwin Blocher]

Or that he is a cheapskate!!! :-)
Ed Blocher
Santa Rosa Beach, FL
ebloc...@earthlink.net
- Original Message -
From: "Dan Heath" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2003 6:39 PM
Subject: Re: KR>LED nav lights on sale


Y'all didn't really believe that Mark L, was going to leave ANYTHING hanging
in the breeze, did you?

N64KR

Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC

da...@kr-builder.org

See you in Red Oak - 2003

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KR>Taxi Photo

[Edwin Blocher]

Looks great Mark, I envy you. Hope the fuel tank and battery locations are
also temporary :-).
Ed
Ed Blocher
Santa Rosa Beach, FL
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- Original Message -
From: "Mark Jones" 
To: "KR Net" ; "Corvaircraft" 
Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2003 7:00 PM
Subject: KR>Taxi Photo


There is a new photo of me doing a little taxi around the cul-de-sac on my
homepage. Here is the link...
http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj/homepage.html


Mark Jones (N886MJ)
Wales, WI  USA
E-mail me at flyk...@wi.rr.com
Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at
http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj/homepage.html

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KR>e-mail

[Edwin Blocher]

Sorry, but I have lost Dana's e-mail address.
Dana, If you sent the e-mail to the net regarding "Speed", Norton says its 
infected with a "bug bear" virus. I have gotten 6 or 7 messages in the last 
week infected with this virus but this is the first with a KR Netter's name 
being involved.
Ed Blocher
Santa Rosa Beach, FL
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KR>Canopy and turtledeck

[Edwin Blocher]

At 5'8" I don't think you need to move back any. You should have plenty of
headroom and probably will need to have both seat and back cushions in a
standard 2S.
Just my thoughts.
ED
Ed Blocher
Santa Rosa Beach, FL
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- Original Message -
From: "William Clapp" 
To: "KR builders and pilots" 
Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2003 6:06 PM
Subject: KR>Canopy and turtledeck


I am getting ready to build form for my turtledeck but am interested is
knowing a couple things.
First.  I am 5' 8" tall.  How high is the average turtledeck for someone my
heigth?  How to test.  I have a Todd's Canopy - very flexible and oversized
so trimming is no problem. - a liitle rounder than a dragonfly.

Second - Can I move the seat support crossmember cack a couple inches to
provide 1) more headroom and 2) a more comfy seat that I can adjust with
removable back cushions or adjustable back?
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KR>Fw: KR 1 or 2

[Edwin Blocher]

I could be wrong but isn't Steve Bennets's called a KR1 1/2?
ED
Ed Blocher
Santa Rosa Beach, FL
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- Original Message -
From: "ROBERT COOPER" 
To: "krnet" 
Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2003 10:50 PM
Subject: KR>Fw: KR 1 or 2
x.x. I remember seeing a picture of that KR somewhere but am unable to find
it now. I don't remember who it belonged to but I believe they called it a
KR-1 1/2.
Jack Cooper
mailto:kr2coo...@msn.com
http://www.jackandsandycooper.com/kr2
Fayetteville, NC.
- Original Message -
From: ROBERT COOPER
To: kr2cooper
Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2003 11:34 PM
Subject: KR! or 2


http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford/redoak2002/02092314.jpg
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KR>new KR builder

[Edwin Blocher]

It is with much regret that I have to tell you that I have sold my KR2S 
project. Welcome Glenda McElwee as the new owner/builder. She will be at 
Oshkosh and at the Gathering. I have told her to really bug everyone with 
questions. I'm still going to hang around on the net at least for a while.
Sincerely, ED
Ed Blocher
Santa Rosa Beach, FL
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KR>Project for sale

[Edwin Blocher]

Due to reasons I'd rather not go into I need to sell my 2S project. Boat stage 
complete, temporaraly mounted on Grove gear with Tracy O'Brien axels, brakes 
and 500X5 tires - fuselage complete with firewall mounted (stretched 10 inches) 
- bent up center section spars installed with TET wing attach fittings 
installed and foam work started.- RR flap handle assembly - tail gear and nose 
gear - Todds canopy - Corvair engine ready to rebuild including flexpate 
addator - wood for vertical and horizontal tail spars and other misc items. 
Over $3000 invested plus 300 hours of my time or yours. Willl sell for $2200, 
located in the central panhandle of Florida. E-mail me off net at 
ebloc...@earthlink.net if you are interested.
Hate to have to do this, ED
Ed Blocher
Santa Rosa Beach, FL
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KR>pitot tubes

[Edwin Blocher]

1/4" would do fine.
Ed Blocher
Santa Rosa Beach, FL
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- Original Message - 
From: "larry severson" 
To: "KR builders and pilots" 
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 5:11 PM
Subject: KR>pitot tubes


> 
> >What size tubing should I get to create the pitot system?
> 
> Larry Severson
> Fountain Valley, CA 92708
> (714) 968-9852
> lar...@socal.rr.com
> 
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KR>Gathering Lodging

[Edwin Blocher]

Mark,
Did you reserve your room at the Red Roof Inn? Anyone reserving a room there
be sure to mention you are coming for the KR Gathering. They have a block of
rooms set aside. My rate for a single is $38.00 per night,
Ed Blocher
Santa Rosa Beach, FL
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- Original Message -
From: "Mark Jones" 
To: "KR Net" 
Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2003 10:33 AM
Subject: KR>Gathering Lodging


> I just booked my room at Red Oak and I was looking at this link:
> http://www.krgathering.org/ 
> Holy Cow... THE Headline says KR Gathering 20,023. Can you just imagine
what
> the KR will look like in that year. Think there will be any new mods by
> then?
>
> Mark Jones (N886MJ)
> Wales, WI
>
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KR>Gathering Lodging

[Edwin Blocher]

Corection: Make that the Red Coach Inn, Sorry about that.
Ed Blocher
Santa Rosa Beach, FL
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- Original Message -
From: "ROBERT COOPER" <kr2coo...@msn.com>
To: "KR builders and pilots" <kr...@mylist.net>
Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2003 5:01 PM
Subject: Re: KR>Gathering Lodging


> I have reserved a room with two double beds. Would be glad to share
expenses
> with someone.
>
> Jack Cooper
> mailto:kr2coo...@msn.com
> http://www.jackandsandycooper.com/kr2
> Fayetteville, NC.
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Edwin Blocher" <ebloc...@earthlink.net>
> To: "KR builders and pilots" <kr...@mylist.net>
> Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2003 5:52 PM
> Subject: Re: KR>Gathering Lodging
>
>
> > Mark,
> > Did you reserve your room at the Red Roof Inn? Anyone reserving a room
> there
> > be sure to mention you are coming for the KR Gathering. They have a
block
> of
> > rooms set aside. My rate for a single is $38.00 per night,
> > Ed Blocher
> > Santa Rosa Beach, FL
> > ebloc...@earthlink.net
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Mark Jones" <mjo...@muellersales.com>
> > To: "KR Net" <kr...@mylist.net>
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2003 10:33 AM
> > Subject: KR>Gathering Lodging
> >
> >
> > > I just booked my room at Red Oak and I was looking at this link:
> > > http://www.krgathering.org/ <http://www.krgathering.org/>
> > > Holy Cow... THE Headline says KR Gathering 20,023. Can you just
imagine
> > what
> > > the KR will look like in that year. Think there will be any new mods
by
> > > then?
> > >
> > > Mark Jones (N886MJ)
> > > Wales, WI
> > >
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> >
> >
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KR>Gathering Lodging

[Edwin Blocher]

I booked my room about 2 weeks ago and  didn't mention the KR Gathering at
first and she said they had a few rooms available but when I did mention the
KR Gathering she said that they have a block of rooms reserved for us. At
that time only 3 people had reserved 4 rooms. Call the Red Coach in Red Oak
direct at 712-623-4864 and be sure to say KR Group for special rates.
Ed Blocher
Santa Rosa Beach, FL
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- Original Message -
From: "larry flesner" 
To: "KR builders and pilots" 
Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2003 6:16 PM
Subject: KR>Gathering Lodging


>
>
> When I booked my room at the Red Coach Inn eariler this
> week the lady indicated she had a limited number of rooms
> left.  Better hurry!  She also asked if I had an AARP card
> so may get a senior discount also.  I guess I deserve some
> kind of a reward for living this long.  Good luck maybe?
>
> Larry Flesner
>
>
>
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KR>Work Table

[Edwin Blocher]

Since no one has replied to your question I'll say this.
I made my table 4'X12'. I wouldn't go any shorter or narrower and sometimes
wished I had another foot. I made mine so I could remove 4' after the
fuselage was complete and then had 4'X4' and 4'X8' tables. Another hint: get
at least a dozen pencils because they tend to all end up on one side of the
table :-)
ED
Ed Blocher
Santa Rosa Beach, FL
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- Original Message -
From: "Curtis Chance" 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2003 9:46 PM
Subject: KR>Work Table


> Looking for some advice(lessons learned) on recommended work table
> dimensions to build my KR-2S plus. I would like to use something narrower
> than the Rand Robinson suggested 4 X 16, however I don't want to find out
> later in the project that I need a 4' wide table.
>
> Thanks
> Curtis  "Schneider"  Chance
> LT   USNR
> VS-24   1st LT
> navalavi...@bellsouth.net
> chanc...@vs24.navy.mil
> SCOUT'S RULE!!!
>
>
>

KR>Grove or Diehl

[Edwin Blocher]

One other nice thing about the Grove gear is that you can get it custom made
in both height and width and designed for your max gross weight. Go to
www.groveaircraft.com ,order their catalog, fill out the form with your
measurements and get a quote. They are great people to deal with. Mine is
designed for 1200# gross weight,  gun drilled  and drilled for Tracey
O'Brien axels. Gear with Tracy o'Brien axels, brakes, tires and wheels
weighs a total of 49#.
ED
Ed Blocher
Santa Rosa Beach, FL
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- Original Message -
From: "larry flesner" 
To: "KR builders and pilots" 
Sent: Sunday, June 08, 2003 10:56 AM
Subject: KR>Grove or Diehl


> SNIP
>  And alignment should
> >be very close to start with.  Not so with the Diehl gear, which depends
on
> >arbitrary "hail Mary" measurements made on the bench before they are even
> >assembled to the plane.
> SNIP
>   And the biggie to me is that the Grove gear is
> >taller, so slow, full-stall landings become an option.
> SNIP
> >Mark Langford, Huntsville, AL
> +++
>
> The alignment issue on the Diehl gear is much less of an issue
> if the builder drills the four mounting holes in the lower bracket
> but only one hole in the lower end of the leg.  Mount the gear
> leg and, with a single bolt holding the lower bracket in place,
> do your alignment measurements/adjustments on the airplane.
>
> Some additional height could probably be gained on the Diehl
> gear with "taller" lower end brackets as (I believe) Mark intends
> to do.  The longer lower bracket will add some additional
> "twist" loads to the gear legs, especially on rougher fields,
> but I SUSPECT the gear should handle it o.k.  Be advised,
> I'm NOT and engineer.
>
> Finally, if you decide to go the "Grove" route for the mains
> and a Diehl nose gear, make sure they are compatable in
> height so your three point attitude on the ground is
> correct.  That will be YOUR responsibility, not the suppliers.
>
> Good luck.
>
> Larry Flesner
>
>
>
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KR>KR1 - first time builder?

[Edwin Blocher]

Jim,
If you would like to make that 8 to 68 I would like to see how it flys. I
have not flown with you but have seen Mark L get out of your KR with a grin
3 feet wide. See you at the gathering.
ED
Ed Blocher
Santa Rosa Beach, FL
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- Original Message -
From: "Jim Faughn" 
To: "'KR builders and pilots'" 
Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2003 7:37 PM
Subject: RE: KR>KR1 - first time builder?


> Mark is correct. I have biased my aircraft to the front end of the CG
> envelope and I love the way it fly's. I haven't found anyone yet from 8
> years old to 62 that can't fly it. The other part of the idea of a first
> time builder is - are you sure you will build another aircraft? I never
> will! Unless you love to build and this is your only hobby, then you
> should probably build the aircraft that you think you would like to have
> for a lifetime.
>
> You can build a fast enough and fun KR that can be controlled without
> too much transition.
>
> Jim  N891JF
>
> Jim Faughn
> 4323D Laclede Ave.
> St. Louis, MO 63108
> (314)652-7659
> Mailto:jfau...@mvp.net
> Web Site  http://jfaughn.com
>
> -Original Message-
> From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net] On
> Behalf Of Mark Langford
> Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2003 1:17 PM
> To: KR builders and pilots
> Subject: Re: KR>KR1 - first time builder?
>
>
> I know I've made comments about pitch sensitivity before, but I've
> tempered my attitude ever since I flew Jim Faughn's KR.  There are
> sensitive ones and then there are "light" ones.  I could see how you
> could crawl into Jim's or Troy's and fly it for the first time with no
> problem at all, and learn to love it in short order.  I've flown others
> that made me think I was going to rip the wings off, and others
> somewhere in the middle.  I suspect CG had a lot to do with this, and I
> think Jim would tell you that his CG is biased toward the forward end.
> As long as the CG kept forward, rather than aft,  I don't have a problem
> with KR pitch control.  It's a small, short-coupled plane, so yes, if
> you lean forward the pitch is going to change, but's that's just the way
> it is.
>
>  But like I said, I've only flown a few, a little at a time, so I'm no
> expert. I don't guess it will be long before a bunch of us wannabees
> will be real-live KR pilots, and we'll tell you how it is with the new
> generation of KRs.  Other comments are more than welcome...
>
> Mark Langford, Huntsville, AL
> N56ML "at"  hiwaay.net
> see KR2S project at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford
>
>
>
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KR>Red Oak 2003

[Edwin Blocher]

Mark,
I have been trying to post a message about the gathering today. They don't
seem to be going through. I posted them to kr...@mylist.net and didn't
recieve them back. Also how do I e-mail you now? Reply off net. Thanks, ED
Ed Blocher
Santa Rosa Beach, FL
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- Original Message -
From: "Mark Langford" 
To: "KR builders and flyers" 
Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2003 9:31 PM
Subject: KR>Red Oak 2003


> It's been kinda quiet today, so let me throw this one out there.  I've
been
> looking through the 2002 Gathering photos at
> http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford/redoak2002/ , and I can't wait 'til Red
Oak
> 2003!I got my room  a few months ago and they acted like they were
> starting to fill up, so don't forget to get a room.  And no matter what it
> takes, BE THERE!  Check this web page, and you'll see why!  Details of the
> hotels, etc, are located at http://www.krgathering.org/ .  And to answer
the
> ubiquitous question, "nope, I don't think I'm  gonna fly there in N56ML.
> Maybe in Larry's Tripe if I'm lucky...
>
> See y'all there!
>
> Mark Langford, Huntsville, AL
> N56ML "at"  hiwaay.net
> see KR2S project at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford
>
>
>
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KR>problems with KRnet?

[Edwin Blocher]

Memorial Day and settings have nothing to do with it. I can post to
Corvaircraft and send messages to my self with no problems.
I'm going to post a test to krnet now and see if is working for me again.
ED
Ed Blocher
Santa Rosa Beach, FL
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- Original Message -
From: "Mark Jones" 
To: "KR builders and pilots" 
Cc: "Mark Langford" 
Sent: Friday, May 23, 2003 6:49 AM
Subject: Re: KR>problems with KRnet?


> Mark and others. I have seen both Dan's and Ed's post recently. I honestly
> feel that traffic on the KR Net is just slow right now. May be a lot of
> folks are away this week being Memorial Day. Also, in your e-mail settings
> there is an option which allows you to not receive e-mail from yourself.
> Those not getting their own mail may want to check their settings.
>
> Mark Jones (N886MJ)
> Wales, WI  USA
> E-mail me at flyk...@wi.rr.com
> Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at
> http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj/homepage.html
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Mark Langford" 
> To: 
> Sent: Friday, May 23, 2003 6:19 AM
> Subject: KR>problems with KRnet?
>
>
> > NetHeads,
> >
> > Although I haven't actually seen it myself, I've gotten reports from Dan
> and
> > Ed that they've tried to send messages to KRnet several times, and they
> > never got through.  Has anybody else sent messages that didn't get
> through?
> > I suppose as a test, anybody sending messages to KRnet is welcome to CC
me
> > on it.  When you have a message that was send to both me and the list,
and
> > only I get it, that says a lot to the folks who are trying to 1) prove
> that
> > they have a problem, and 2) might help them to solve it.
> >
> > So for the next couple of days, CC me on your messages and we'll see how
> big
> > a problem we have.  The funny thing is that nobody on CorvAircraft has
> > mentioned a problem.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Mark Langford, Huntsville, AL
> > N56ML at hiwaay.net
> > see KR2S project N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford
> >
> >
> >
> >
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KR>test

[Edwin Blocher]

test again
Ed Blocher
Santa Rosa Beach, FL
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KR>Finishing

[Edwin Blocher]

The plans are listed on www.fly-kr.com
Just go to the price list for whichever KR you are interested in and the
plans and prices are listed. Don't try to call RR. Just go ahead and order
what you want and you'll get it.
ED
Ed Blocher
Santa Rosa Beach, FL
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- Original Message -
From: "larry severson" 
To: "KR builders and pilots" 
Sent: Friday, May 16, 2003 5:10 PM
Subject: Re: KR>Finishing


> fly-kr.com does not list the plans and I have not received any response
> from the phone.
>
> At 03:34 PM 5/16/2003 -0700, you wrote:
> >Larry,
> >
> >
> >
> >There are templates for cutting out the firewall.  If you don't have the
> >templates, I suggest that you buy a new set of plans.
> >
> >
> >
> >N64KR
> >
> >
> >
> >Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC
>
> Larry Severson
> Fountain Valley, CA 92708
> (714) 968-9852
> lar...@socal.rr.com
>
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