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[Ron Freiberger]

OH Clever unsubscriber, read the info at the bottom off almost all
messeges.  " to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to
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Ron Freiberger

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KR> Spruce V Douglas Fir

[Ron Freiberger]

Aircraft wood starts with the logging process.  The tree must be felled
so that there are no induced cracks in the wood.  There's a lot of
issues with aircraft wood, and a lot more than ring counts and linear
runout.  The wood has to be treated right throughout the ENTIRE process.
One way to know for sure is to stress test the wood by pulling on it.
I'm sure that fir will do well, and the weight difference in negligible.

But, be sure the integrity of the wood is correct.

Ron Freiberger  EAA 28328,  Tech Counselor 4125

KR> Trama-Hawk

[Ron Freiberger]

I took an hour in a trauma-hawk to qualify to rent one as needed.  The
instructor would not let me stall the aircraft.  I qualified, but told
them to save the paperwork, 'cause I wouldn't rent any airplane the
instructor was scared of.

Ron Freiberger

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> Rumor has it that it was called a "Trauma-hawk" because it was "spin
> friendly". :-)

KR> Hydraulic pumps

[Ron Freiberger]

I've had good success using the fully contained pump system used for
convertible tops, and they seem to all be the same (GM, Chrysler)

Ron Freiberger

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KR> N202RH sometimes they don't fly right out of the box

[Ron Freiberger]

As a healthy person screwed by the "refused medical" regs, I'd say "go
enjoy your KR".
138 can cover lots of ground

Ron Freiberger

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-Original Message-
From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net] On
Behalf Of rahu...@peoplepc.com
Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2007 9:42 AM
To: KRnet
Subject: KR> N202RH sometimes they don't fly right out of the box

Netters - this is going to be rather long and will contain content
regarding the KR2 as LSA compliant - so be warned and delete now if you
desire.
I feverently hope that we don't start an endless discussion but rather
my objective is to add some datapoints that some of you may find
interesting.

First a description and some history of N202RH.

A KR-2 with a RAF 48 wing with tips extended 18 inches to the same
dimensions as a "Diehl" wing. Has a forward opening "Dragonfly" canopy
and the first generation of Rands fixed gear, which were two piece
aluminum legs that bolt to aluminum castings. Equipped with a
Continental C-85 with the Starter and Generator removed and swinging a
60 x 64 Sterba prop. It currently weighs 696 lbs. empty and dry (no fuel
or oil) with a fuel capacity of 17.5 gals in one tank, I've set the
gross weight at 1150 lbs.

Construction was started in October of 1985 and was originally built as
a tri-gear with the main gear mounted on the rear of the main spar and a
Rutan Long Eze nose gear strut and castering nose gear fitted. A local
DAR signed it off in June 2002 - yes almost 17 years of construction and
3000+ hours. But we weren't finished yet. The more we ran the engine the
more dissatisfied I became with the Eisleman mags - I rebuilt them with
new points and coils but still had unacceptable drops so they were
eventually replaced by Slicks and a new harness. That took us to 2003 -
then while taxi testing the Long Eze strut collapsed doing minor damage
to the cowling and destroying an absolutely beautiful Peery prop. So I
carted the fuselage back to my home to re-group. The structure was
inspected and found to be OK - the old nose gear was removed and a new
more robust gear was designed around an early Lancair nose wheel
assembly that I was given. All in all that took another year of my life
before the trip back to the airport. It's now early July 2004 and things
began to proceed a little faster. First flight was on 7/31/04 but was
cut short by high engine temps - we were able to get them down to just
under redline by opening the cowling intakes and tightening up the
baffling a bit. We began to build hours somewhat slowly as we found that
we didn't have enough up trim even with the CG in the middle of the
envelope. Moving the battery from the firewall to the back of the seat
helped but it became apparent that my nose wheel installation was
causing the nose to pitch down and was most likely impeding the outflow
of the engine cooling air. About this time (March 2005) fate struck
again - my test pilot suffered an engine out and put the aircraft into a
cow pasture off the end of the field after determining he wasn't going
to clear power lines at the end of the runway. The good news is that he
was unhurt and the new nose wheel held up - the bad news is that the
main gear legs sheared the AN4 bolts that attached them to the castings.
The departing right leg poked large holes in the underside of the center
section and damaged the right flap. The left leg didn't depart but
folded under doing similar damage to that side of the center section.
After we got the plane back to it's hangar and up on saw horses and
began the damage assessment we found no wood damage at all. The damage
was limited to foam and glass. We also determined the cause of the
engine stoppage - a cover on the fuel vent, located under the wing, was
overlooked on the pre-flight - tanks don't feed well without air to
replace the fuel. Total time 5 hrs.

At this point a decision was made to remove the nose gear, remount the
main gear forward of the spar and install a tail wheel. (I know the
exact reverse of most.) The main driver was to improve the cooling
airflow and correct the drag on the nose, which was requiring a large
nose up trim to fly level. Anyway new gear mounting brackets were
fabricated out of 4130 and mounted on the front of the spar. The cast
brackets spar mounting holes were off just enough when moved from the
back of the left spar to the front of the right spar to require new
brackets. The right flap was rebuilt and the foam between the center
section wing spars and replaced with 1/16 ply. A tail wheel was mounted
on the existing TW mount that was built in place during original
construction as the tail tie down. The only new hole drilled in the
structure during this conversion was for tail wheel spring mounting. The
wings were thoroughly inspected for any damage and the right underside
was found to have a rather large delamination so that section of the
skin w

KR> carbs again

[Ron Freiberger]

My lawnmower has a better flow control than a posa.  It has a float
bowl, posa has NOTHING

Ron Freiberger

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From: krnet-bounces+ronandmartha=earthlink@mylist.net
[mailto:krnet-bounces+ronandmartha=earthlink@mylist.net] On Behalf
Of Rick and Pam
Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 7:03 PM
To: KRnet
Subject: Re: KR> carbs again

come on guys I need some input. Im leaning twards the aero but Im not
sold 
on it. I know everyones got their opinion on this one but I need a quick

answer. I have a posa thats leaking like a sieve out the side and Im not

real interested in fixing it giving to the fact that it doesn't have a
rich/ 
lean adjuster.I have an 1835 hapi and am thinking in the future of a 
possible turbo but thats years away. Help
- Original Message - 
From: "Rick and Pam" <d...@defnet.com>
To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net>
Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 2:34 PM
Subject: KR> carbs again


> ok Ive read a bunch of posts about carbs so I have a simple question
.. If 
> you had $500 and needed a carb , which one would you buy?
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KR> "lawnmower" ignition

[Ron Freiberger]

If you don't care, don't respond.

Ron Freiberger

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Behalf Of tinya...@aol.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2006 8:31 PM
To: kr...@mylist.net
Subject: Re: KR> "lawnmower" ignition

What was the point of this posting?  I didn't get anything out of it.
If it is another dagger thrown at me, then I could care less.  I like
having ideas, even if half cocked, thrown out on the table for
discussion.  I didn't get anything like that out of this post.  


Kevin Golden
"Little birds" (ARUP replicas)
Harrisonville, MO






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Sent: Wed, 22 Nov 2006 6:51 PM
Subject: RE: KR> "lawnmower" ignition


Gee, that sounds almost like starting my engine on the Magneto cause it
has
impulse coupling (spark retard), and running it on that and the
electronic,
which is fixed.  Now, if I loose the magneto, I wonder what will happen.

Maybe next time I am up flying, I will turn off the Magneto and see,  Oh
shucks, I already did that, and it still works.

Which reminds me.  Several years ago, there was a lot of discussion
about
whether or not the engine will maintain full power, with the facet fuel
pumps turned off.  Well, with 3/4 of a stock header tank full, it will. 

See N64KR at http://KRBuilder.org - Then click on the pics 
See you at the 2007 - KR Gathering
There is a time for building and a time for FLYING and the time for
Flying
has begun.
Daniel R. Heath - Lexington, SC
---Original Message---

make it start easy is with something like an impulse coupling.  

but once you have gone through all the trouble of making something that
works and is reliable you might as well just have gone with a regular
aircraft magneto.

I guess that something like an electronic ignition with spark advance
for
normal use and for starting with a quick and dirty lawnmower type set
with
fixed timing for a backup
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KR> fuselage weight solution!

[Ron Freiberger]

There cannot be a solution when there is not a problem.  But, if you
want it a bit bigger or wider, do so.  The plans are good for guidance,
and innovation is one of the pleasures of building an airplane where not
every rivet hole is pre-defined.

Ron Freiberger

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KR> Tach hook up question.

[Ron Freiberger]

Mark,
Life's not THAT simple.

Ron Freiberger

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From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net] On
Behalf Of Mark Jones
Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2006 10:56 AM
To: CorvAircraft (E-mail); KR Net (E-mail)
Subject: KR> Tach hook up question.

My plane has a dual ignition and my tach is hooked up only to the
primary coil. When I switch to the secondary coil, I loose the tach
function. I would like to hook the tach up where it will function with
either coil. Can I simply run a jumper wire to the secondary coil from
the tach or how should this be done?

Mark Jones (N886MJ)
Wales, WI
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KR> Solid wings

[Ron Freiberger]

I repaired a Jodel D11 with a one piece wing, and it was a real pain in
the catooch.  Why does everyone write about WAFs as if they are a
problem?  There's no evidence to support an issue.
It's handy to have the center section/gear/fuselage as a one piece
roll-around.

Ron Freiberger

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KR> tailwheel thingie

[Ron Freiberger]

How about disconnecting the springs on a champ or Cub and answering your
own question.  Never fail to notice accepted practice.

Ron Freiberger

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> Does anyone NOT have a steerable tailwheel? What
> would be the problem with a tailwheel limited to say
> 60 degrees of turn without being steerable? 

KR> wood glue

[Ron Freiberger]

I think Aerolite was in the "EAA News" about 30 years ago because it
almost killed Hugh Cunningham's dog.  There is a serious ventilation
issue, I think.

Ron Freiberger

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Allen Burr said;

aircraft building in the late 70s.  T88 was new and only
used by few builders, most KR wood kits ordered from Aircraft Spruce &
Specialties or Wics came with Aerolite 306 adhesive for wood bonding.
Aerolite
is a urea-formaldehyde resin and has a cured shear strength of 25,000psi

KR> polyester resin

[Ron Freiberger]

Hennie,
 If you believe it's not needed, why not leave it out and save weight,
or at least use half as much?

Ron Freiberger

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Hi Chris,

In Jack Lambie's book on building and designing composite aircraft, he
suggests using only Polyester resin when building a KR2 and explains
that all the load carrying componants are wood and that epoxy is not
really required from an engineering viepoint.
Hennie

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KR> Plans

[Ron Freiberger]

What part of "Thou shalt not steal" seems mysterious to you?

Ron Freiberger

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From: krnet-bounces+ronandmartha=earthlink@mylist.net
[mailto:krnet-bounces+ronandmartha=earthlink@mylist.net] On Behalf
Of Kenhenderson
Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2006 3:38 AM
To: KRnet
Subject: KR> Plans

Thanks to all who replied to my first post. I have several dumb
questions to ask about plans. I have 2 sets, 1 from 1975 with a serial #
and 1 from 1984 with no number. It has been advised that I contact
Jeanette Rand and have my name transferred to the numbered plans. Do you
have to have a set of plans registered to you in order to build a legal,
registered airplane? What prevents a person from copying a set of plans
and using them for construction? Ethics perhaps? Would a new set of
plans have noticeable improvements over the ones I have and would it be
advantageous to order said plans? Please answer on or off net to my
e-mail address. Still looking for a fixed main gear to replace the
retracts. Thanks, Ken
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FW: KR> Damage from overheating

[Ron Freiberger]

...Regarding Dan's overheating/ scoring.


I'm sure you'll have to replace pistons and cylinders.  Sorry.  The
other challenge will be to flush the particles out of the oil and sump.

Ron Freiberger

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From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-

KR> wicks KR 7533 cloth

[Ron Freiberger]

I think it'll be OK (TLAR) as long as he uses plenty of it.  Yet another
"designer" with basic questions.

Ron Freiberger



-Original Message-
From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net] On
Behalf Of Dan Heath
Sent: Saturday, July 08, 2006 11:08 PM
To: kr...@mylist.net
Subject: Re: KR> wicks KR 7533 cloth

This structure is what holds your engine to the plane and handles the
torsional stresses of the engine and tail section and no doubt a whole
lot
of other critical functions that I, and probably you, have no clue
about.  I
know that there is no way that I would bet everything that my "guess"
was
right, no matter what kind of cloth was used.  I find it hard to believe
that the properties of glass and wood are similar enough that they can
just
be "swapped" out without some serious engineering and testing.  If you
plan
to do that engineering and testing, then you need to choose the cloth to
do
it with.

See N64KR at http://KRBuilder.org - Then click on the pics 
See you in Mt. Vernon - 2006 - KR Gathering
There is a time for building and a time for FLYING and the time for
building
is OVER.
Daniel R. Heath - Lexington, SC
---Original Message---
 At 07:04 PM 7/8/2006, you wrote:
>I was curious if Wicks KR 7533 cloth is strong enough for a
composite
>fuselage shell? Im using foam and glass or carbon fiber for my
covering.
Well
>this suffice or should I use something else?
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KR> more on engine outs

[Ron Freiberger]

Musta been dicey... is that why he's hurrying off to church?

Ron Freiberger




Subject: KR> more on engine outs

I have joined the ranks of have done form those that will. Yes you can
return to land down wind from 400' in a climb out.
Details latter - need to get to church now.

Joe Horton, Coopersburg, Pa.

KR> Re: wing loading test

[Ron Freiberger]

Just a typical issue; wants to call himself a designer, if only someone
will tell him the answers

Ron Freiberger

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-Original Message-
From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net] On
Behalf Of Brian Kraut
Sent: Wednesday, July 05, 2006 7:35 PM
To: KRnet
Subject: RE: KR> Re: wing loading test 

I am not normally the one to jump in and discourage someone from trying
new
ideas, but if he does not know how to calculate the theoretical load
limit
on a simple box spar with a degree of certainty that it does not need to
be
tested under actual load and does not know the proper way to test under
an
actual load either then he should not be building his own design.

KR> Stick Forces

[Ron Freiberger]

Not if it's an ANTI servo.  This is what I had planned for my project,
wherever it is now .

I agree with item 6 also. 

Ron Freiberger

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-Original Message-
From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net] On
Behalf Of Wood, Sidney M (Titan) @ 
4.  Make the Trim Tab into an anti-servo tab so that the tab moves
in the direction of the elevator movement.  That will tend to center the
elevator into the air stream.  The effect will be exponential for stick
forces.  Take care with this change; you could get some bad flutter if
the servo is set to aggressive.  And even if the elevator is mass
balanced.

KR> KR1 Quoted in EAA Newsletter

[Ron Freiberger]

Now we know the source of the info that the foam has no strength issue.
Polystyrene?  BTW, if it was strong enough in Dynel, we could use less
fiberglass?

Ron Freiberger

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-Original Message-
From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net] On
Behalf Of John Bouyea
Sent: Friday, June 16, 2006 10:00 AM
To: KRNet
Subject: KR> KR1 Quoted in EAA Newsletter

Directly "reprinted" from the latest weekly EAA Email newsletter;

HALLMARKS OF HOMEBUILDING -

KEN RAND'S COMPOSITE AIRPLANE, THE KR-1

Among the most talked about airplanes at the 1972 Oshkosh EAA Convention
and
Fly-In was the Rand Robinson KR-1 created by Ken Rand of EAA Chapter 92
in
Huntington Beach, California. Not so much the airplane, which was so
small
that some EAAers figured it had to be either a large RC model or some
over-indulgent father's taxiing toy for his child. What made the
airplane
special-and what now accords it "Hallmark" status-is how it was put
together
and what it was made out of.
http://www.airventure.org/2006/events/hallmarks_rand5.html



John Bouyea

KR2/ Hillsboro, Oregon





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KR> WAF Bolt Sheer Load

[Ron Freiberger]

This could be a good idea, if there was evidence of a problem, which
there is NOT. Why is there an expectation that the WAF joint is a weak
point?

Ron Freiberger


A better design is to use one long bolt with a 
compression member between the WAF pairs instead of paired short 
bolts, placing the joint in a balance double shear.   This is my 
considered opinion as a professional engineer.

This is the requirement in Australia.

KR> WAF

[Ron Freiberger]

Yet another way to make an easy job hard, and fix something that's not a
problem.  Why the fascination with WAFs?  
Ron Freiberger

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Original message

looking thru the kr net I saw a photo of a set of waf take a look
http://www.krnet.org/krs/wwilson/
Keith

KR> removing the foam after glassing as wing.

[Ron Freiberger]

Ron Freiberger

mail to ronandmar...@earthlink.net


I think we've lost the chance on this thread.  We should have encouraged
the d_ to try it.  After all, it's "experimental" isn't it?.

KR> [Fwd: (no subject)virus coming]

[Ron Freiberger]

Right! Bird Flu Too!


Ron Freiberger

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-Original Message-
From: krnet-bounces+ronandmartha=earthlink@mylist.net
[mailto:krnet-bounces+ronandmartha=earthlink@mylist.net] On Behalf
Of D F Lively
Sent: Sunday, April 30, 2006 11:34 PM
To: KRNET
Subject: KR> [Fwd: (no subject)virus coming]

FW: KR> photo posting

[Ron Freiberger]

That's a good idea, and changing our web site to one that allows people
to fill it with stuff is a bad idea.  Keep on keeping on, you're doin'
great.

Ron Freiberger

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-Original Message-
From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net] On
Behalf Of Mark Langford
Sent: Friday, April 28, 2006 11:42 AM
To: KRnet
Subject: KR> photo posting

Here's an idea that might work for posting photos.  Maybe some of you
hotshot computer guru dudes has a server (or maybe even just an account
on somebody else's server) that you could simply publish the ftp server
name or ip address, the username and password, and post one line URL for
that account so  people create directories, throw stuff in there, and
post a link to the files?  I wouldn't put anything important on there,
as anybody could delete every file on it, but for posting a quick photo
or two to show somebody how to do something, this would work.  I'd put
this URL on the top of the KRnet webpage for easy access, or maybe in
the footer that goes on the bottom of all KRnet email as it's posted.

Of course now we'll have several folks point out how antiquated KRnet's
system is, and how we should join the 21st century and move to one of
the new sites that allows photo posting...

Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama
see KR2S project N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford
email to N56ML "at" hiwaay.net

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KR> Ethanol

[Ron Freiberger]

It takes twice as much ethanol than gasoline to do the same task, and
when they blend 10% ethanol, you're losing 5% in value.

Ethanol is a big joke, ranking just behind hydrogen as a good idea.
Think about how they make hydrogen.  In our imperfect government,
they'll probably use ethanol to fuel that reaction.

The best fuel for long distance flying is diesel.  For a short distance,
the take-off weight is higher.

Ron and Martha Freiberger
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-Original Message-
Pat Driscol said,

I was watching a film on TV a couple of days ago that showed a Mooney
flying on pure ethynol. I then read an article in the Saint 
 Paul paper that said that it cost $2.74 per gallon to make ethynol.  

KR> Diabetes

[Ron Freiberger]

If your A1C is 4 or less, you're perhaps deceased.  % is normal, and 7
is good for a diabetic.

Ron and Martha Freiberger
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-Original Message-
From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net] On
Behalf Of VIRGIL N SALISBURY
Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2006 11:21 PM
To: kr...@mylist.net
Subject: Re: KR> Diabetes

SUPPOSEDLY, If your A1c is less than 4 ( 150 ) you can get a
medical ?? Virg
I have the same situation at 73 and no current medical

On Tue, 25 Apr 2006 19:26:04 -0700 (PDT) Ron Smith
 writes:
> Hey Knetters,
>
>   I'm 48. About 5 years ago I discovered I had Diabetes type 2. This 
> was after I had discontinued my flight training. I have 25 hours. I 
> am going to start training again. Where will I stand with my 
> medical? I don't take medication at all, and control my desease with 
> diet and exercise.
>
>   When I go in for my 3rd class med, what do I say on the 
> application as far as the Diabetes is concerned? I am concerned that 
> some yahoo Doctor will exclude me even though I have no real 
> problems, now that I watch my diet.
> 
> 
> Ron Smith
> Kr2ssxl
> Cypress Ca U.S.A.
> mercedesm...@yahoo.com
> http://ronsmith.myphotoalbum.com/albums.php
> 
> -
> Talk is cheap. Use Yahoo! Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls.  
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www.lubedealer.com/salisbury
Miami ,Fl

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KR> Diabetes

[Ron Freiberger]

Diabetes that's under control will not prevent your medical approval.
Misleading answers on your medical application can come back to bite
you, and could void your insurance.  Just have your physician monitor
you and write a letter for the AME that says you're in good control.

For yourself, make sure you're in good control anyway.

Been there, done that.

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From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net] On
Behalf Of VIRGIL N SALISBURY
Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2006 11:21 PM
To: kr...@mylist.net
Subject: Re: KR> Diabetes

SUPPOSEDLY, If your A1c is less than 4 ( 150 ) you can get a
medical ?? Virg
I have the same situation at 73 and no current medical

On Tue, 25 Apr 2006 19:26:04 -0700 (PDT) Ron Smith
 writes:
> Hey Knetters,
>
>   I'm 48. About 5 years ago I discovered I had Diabetes type 2. This 
> was after I had discontinued my flight training. I have 25 hours. I 
> am going to start training again. Where will I stand with my 
> medical? I don't take medication at all, and control my desease with 
> diet and exercise.
>
>   When I go in for my 3rd class med, what do I say on the 
> application as far as the Diabetes is concerned? I am concerned that 
> some yahoo Doctor will exclude me even though I have no real 
> problems, now that I watch my diet.
> 
> 
> Ron Smith
> Kr2ssxl
> Cypress Ca U.S.A.
> mercedesm...@yahoo.com
> http://ronsmith.myphotoalbum.com/albums.php
> 
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KR> Diabetes, correction

[Ron Freiberger]

Oops, sorry, 5 is normal, and 7 is good

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KR> Measuring wing square footage

[Ron Freiberger]

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Now, come on Dan, don't be a grump.  Maybe he's not smart enough to
change the subject.   

We really should use my suggestion; just use "STUFF" for all the message
subjecets

-Original Message-
From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net] On
Behalf Of Dan Heath
Sent: Friday, April 21, 2006 4:38 PM
To: kr...@mylist.net
Subject: Re: KR> Measuring wing square footage

 Measuring wing square footage?

KR> Carb Heat.

[Ron Freiberger]

The need for carb heat is not obvious to many until they need it.

People who fly without carb heat are stupid.

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KR> Alternators and Excitation.

[Ron Freiberger]

I was surprised to find that there are some alternators that do not
require excitation.  I have a modified GM alternator added to my boat,
and the shop that modified it sold it as a ONE WIRE alternator, but of
course the "other" wire is the frame ground. There are NO one wire
circuits.

I also know that disconnecting the battery with a running alternator can
create horrendous voltage  "spikes". Switching the batteries through the
off position on a running system on your twin engine boat can fail two
voltage regulators, a little over $1500 on my twin engine Mercruiser.
You can guess how I know this.  The other part of the story is that
these Mercruiser engines are a weird design.

I designed HVAC systems for GM. We had to do a lot of surge protection
work on Audi systems, because they start them without a battery to drive
them onto the boats for transshipment.

The best answer for the original question would be to use a minimal
alternator, and a small battery of the high quality types that have very
low impedance.  Hawker Genesis series comes to mind

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KR> Fuselage

[Ron Freiberger]

Don't complain Dan.  That's such a long message from Virg.

And I get a lot of guff about asking people to change to a new subject.
Maybe we ought to have only one subject, like "STUFF".

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-Original Message-
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Behalf Of da...@alltel.net
Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2006 2:19 PM
To: KRnet
Subject: Re: Re: KR> Fuselage

FUSELAGE?
From: VIRGIL N SALISBURY 
List-Post: krnet@list.krnet.org
Date: 2006/04/20 Thu PM 01:10:17 CDT
To: kr...@mylist.net
Subject: Re: KR> Fuselage

No, not a Miami bunch, Virg

On Thu, 20 Apr 2006 09:25:18 -0700 (PDT) bo...@hatconversions.com
writes:
> Virg,
>Did you know Mac McKenna and those other guys Wittman used to run 
> with?
>  Bobby
> 
> 
> 
> > No, Virg
> >
> > On Thu, 20 Apr 2006 14:25:16 + "troy Mcgrew" 
> 
> > writes:
> >> will widening the fuselage change the spar locations in relation 
> to
> >> each
> >> other?
> >>
> >>
> >>
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> >
> >
> > Virgil N. Salisbury - AMSOIL
> > www.lubedealer.com/salisbury
> > Miami ,Fl
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KR> some guys who built fast........watch.........

[Ron Freiberger]

No new subject needed here either..

BTW, who is DAD?  I'm one; did he mean me?

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Subject: KR> some guys who built fastwatch.

 Original Message

Subject: FW: A380 Production
From:"Cliff Hoyle" 
List-Post: krnet@list.krnet.org
Date:Wed, April 19, 2006 8:51 pm
To:  "Allen Myers" 
 "Paul Nunn" 
 "Tomas Duran" 
 "John Barger" 

--



---Original Message---

From: Mark Hoyle
List-Post: krnet@list.krnet.org
Date: 04/19/06 20:36:06
To: c.ho...@comcast.net
Subject: FW: A380 Production


Hey Dad, I think you'll really enjoy this video.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3046542226114078023

Mark Haven Hoyle
http://songramp.com/HavenMade

KR> STUFF

[Ron Freiberger]

See how easy that works?

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-Original Message-
From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net] On
Behalf Of bo...@hatconversions.com
Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2006 3:43 PM
To: KRnet
Subject: Re: KR> Fuselage

Yea, They all used to work for Eastern when they had the big maintenance
facility on 36th St. Mac moved to Leewards about the time Wittman did.
They all lived in the Springs. Mac had they market cornered on good
looking daughters that went to Springs High.



> No, not a Miami bunch, Virg
>
> On Thu, 20 Apr 2006 09:25:18 -0700 (PDT) bo...@hatconversions.com
writes:
>> Virg,
>>Did you know Mac McKenna and those other guys Wittman used to run
>> with?
>>  Bobby
>>
>>
>>
>> > No, Virg
>> >
>> > On Thu, 20 Apr 2006 14:25:16 + "troy Mcgrew"
>> 
>> > writes:
>> >> will widening the fuselage change the spar locations in relation
>> to
>> >> each
>> >> other?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> ___
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>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> > Virgil N. Salisbury - AMSOIL
>> > www.lubedealer.com/salisbury
>> > Miami ,Fl
>> >
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>
>
> Virgil N. Salisbury - AMSOIL
> www.lubedealer.com/salisbury
> Miami ,Fl
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KR> Off topic

[Ron Freiberger]

Thanks Jack

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Not corvair or KR related but if you would like to see a South African
aerobatic team water skiing click on the link.
www.flightzone.co.za/media/harvards.wmv

KR> Armoural

[Ron Freiberger]

I had hoped that after so many postings, someone could have changed it
to "ARMORALL"

Do they wax F-16s??

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From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net] On
Behalf Of D F Lively
Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2006 4:51 PM
To: KRnet
Subject: Re: KR> Armoural

Eric:

The F-104 is even faster than the F-16 in fact I think it top speed
approached that of the F-111.

Aguy I went to school with Retired from the airforce.  He was an F-111
wing
commander in Viet Nam and until recently flew the air show in a restored
WWII fighter.  His name was Col. Ed Huber from Pekin IL.

Don



Pitts Eric MSgt 181FW/MXOO wrote:

> On our F-16's the surface is not real smooth but we do put guards on
the
> trailing edges for safety. Many have cut heads on the trailing edges.
>
> Eric Pitts
> Terre Haute IN
> KR2S
> http://home.att.net/~e.j.pitts/
>
>
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KR> Horizontal stab stall

[Ron Freiberger]

James said;
You can put a stall strip on the wing to make it stall first. Look at
the inboard leading edge of a Beech Bonanza and the Tiger and Traveler
of American Aviation Co.  Easy quick fix.


No. that makes a rumble so you can recognize the approaching stall

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KR> Advice on carb, transponder, ELT and radios

[Ron Freiberger]

Here's my advice on your posa... Pitch it!
My lawnmower has a better fuel level regulator  ( float and pin).

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[mailto:krnet-bounces+ronandmartha=earthlink@mylist.net] On Behalf
Of Rich Meyer
Sent: Monday, April 03, 2006 1:23 AM
To: 'KRnet'
Subject: KR> Advice on carb, transponder, ELT and radios

Netters,
We have the Diehl fixed gear on N26LT, kept the go-kart brakes
and
Azusa 5" wheels, changed to 11 X 4.00 X 5 tires for the main gear, kept
the
3.40 x 3.00 x 5 for the nosewheel.  Questions now:

1.  In our case the oil cooler for our 1835 VW engine will need to
be
moved because the nosegear bracket interfered.  I think I've seen that a
number of you put the oil cooler on top, is that right?  Advantages and
disadvantages?

2.  I'm not happy with lack of mixture control on Posa carb.  Are
those
of you with a Zenith 1821 (Great Plains) happy with that carb?

3.  Anyone have a survey of how many KRs fly with transponders?
Popular
or unpopular piece of equipment?

4.  Anyone extremely opinionated about their choice of ELT?  Looks
like
either AmeriKing AK-450, or ACK Model E-01.

5.  How many of you fly with just a handheld radio (and intercom,
headset adapter, PTT switch, etc.) and are happy with that choice?  Sure
looks cheaper than installing real radios . . .

Thanks,
Rich Meyer
Millersburg IN
Cptcsd at Npcc dot net



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KR> Experimental - What''s That?

[Ron Freiberger]

Bob Glidden said  "I  thought building and testing to find our own 
aircrafts limitations was what "EXPERIMENTAL" was all about.

Actually, the EXPERIMENT" is to allow amateurs to build and fly their
own airplanes.  Don't interpret the EXPERIMTAL to mean you can just do
anything and say it's an experiment.  Choosing a Gross weight based on
what you would like it to be is truly an experiment, and could have
disasterous results, if you really explore the entire envelope.  

Wood is much less accurate than typical metal properties, and the
published lower limit  may well be exceeded in the wood someone else
used it thier project.  That doesn't mean that the wood in YOUR spars
exceeds the lower limit. (For Instance).

In my opinion, when the FAA (Friendly Airplane Agency) allows you to
deviate from established design practices, they are not doing you a
favor. You can be sure they won't help you check the limits with their
B___s  in the aircraft.  You Tech Counselor isn't doing his job either
if he ignores poor practices and proceedures.  My experience however, is
that must builders are doing an excellent job.  I have refused to
approve some.

Ron Freiberger
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---

KR> windmiling props

[Ron Freiberger]

You can tell, because it's putting enegry into the engine, about 30% of
the idle power need.

If you want to try it, make sure you have a starter sytem, 'cause
sometime you can hardly dive fast enough to restart.  As Larry says, "
Don't ask me how I know".

Ron amd Martha Freiberger
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During my 40 hour test flying on the Mustang I got bored to tears and
decided to test the windmilling or not theory.  I was surprised to find
that on that plane I had a better glide ratio with the prop windmilling
than with it stopped.  With my particular prop and engine combination
the prop would windmill until I slowed to about 90.  It would not start
spinning again until I speed up to about 140 so I had a pretty good
range where I could choose a windmilling or stopped prop.  I actually
did something like 5-10% better glide with it still windmilling.

Keep in mind that this was one particular airplane, prop, and engine
combination and I don't doubt that many, if not most, other combinations
will glide further with the prop stopped.  With a lower pitch prop and a
higher compression engine you also might not be able to keep it
windmilling at anywhere near your best glide speed.  It all boils down
to if you want to know try it yourself in your plane.  Now that I have
cut two inches off the prop and had it pitched 4" lower I will try again
and see if I still get the same results.

Oh, and don't try this experiment if you don't have a mixture control.
Shut your engine with the mag switch and then turn it back on with the
prop windmilling and you are going to get the backfire from hell.

KR> Sport Aviation Fly-in

[Ron Freiberger]

The Frasca Field fly-in is a superb example of what a fly-in should be
like.  Come and enjoy the camaraderie of real airplane people.
Interesting issue, the public is NOT WELCOME.  

Ron Freiberger 
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KR> Sport Aviation Fly-in

[Ron Freiberger]

I'm sorry, I didn't say that well... The SAA fly-in is open to
interested aviators, but it is not slanted to appease the PUBLIC with a
free airshow.  It's about aviation, for aviators.

See www.sportaviation.org

Ron Freiberger
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Ed Jansen said;

On Behalf Of Ed Janssen

I've never heard of people actually being turned away.  However, it's
intentionally not widely publicized and it's purpose is for Sport
Aviation
enthusiasts only

KR> Wingtips and there shape

[Ron Freiberger]

Interesting tests, but no comparisons regarding DRAG.  It might well be
that simply adding more wing would have been just as good.  Don't see
many Mooneys with "corkscrew tips".  They just end the wing, and with
good results.

Ron Freiberger
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-Original Message-
From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net] On
Behalf Of Myron Freeman
Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2006 5:17 PM
To: kr...@mylist.net
Subject: KR> Wingtips and there shape

I found this experiment on wingtips on the web and thought someone might
be interested in the results it shows.

http://oas.ucok.edu/OJAS/96/T96/Jdavis.htm

Regards, Dan F.
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KR> Exhaust for sale/ Spam

[Ron Freiberger]

These two messages could/should have been sent to only the intended
recipient.  Why send to 500 other users?  That's SPAM

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-Original Message-
From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net] On
Behalf Of olson gary
Sent: Monday, February 13, 2006 9:00 AM
To: kr...@mylist.net
Subject: Re: KR> Exhaust for sale

Bob,
Sorry for the delayed response. I did recieve an offer that was
acceptable 
so I gave an oral commitment to another buyer. If this should fall thru,
I 
will let you know. Thanks for your interest.

Gary Olson
Oshkosh


From: Robert E Kirby Sr <tiger7...@juno.com>
Reply-To: KRnet <kr...@mylist.net>
To: gtol...@hotmail.com,kr...@mylist.net
Subject: Re: KR> Exhaust for sale
List-Post: krnet@list.krnet.org
Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2006 23:29:50 -0500

Gary give me a price, I don't want to insult you my makeing a bid, tell
me what you looking to get out of it and if I can match it , I do it
Bob Kirby



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KR> water in the fuel? Dan Heth's Question.

[Ron Freiberger]

It's because that's where the thread started, and many of our
correspondents don't know a subject from a predicate.

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-Original Message-
From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net] On
Behalf Of Dan Heath
Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2006 3:36 PM
To: kr...@mylist.net
Subject: Re: KR> water in the fuel?

Can anyone advise as to what this post has to do with "water in the
fuel"? 

See N64KR at http://KRBuilder.org - Then click on the pics 
See you in Mt. Vernon - 2006 - KR Gathering
There is a time for building and a time for FLYING and the time for
building
is OVER.
Daniel R. Heath - Lexington, SC
---Original Message---

From: David Lininger
List-Post: krnet@list.krnet.org
Date: 02/11/06 14:47:58
To: KRnet
Subject: Re: KR> water in the fuel?

3343V wrote:

>If it wasn't the middle of the night I would have dropped 40
>flaps and flew backwards for a while ;)
>
>

Many years ago, when I was first getting my private license, my
instructor and I went flying on a very windy day. While up in the air,
he asked if I had ever flown backwards. I said I hadn't, so he had me
point the nose into the wind, pull the power back, and put out full
flaps. We slowed to near zero, and then he had me pull a bit more power
off. We flew backwards for a bit, probably only a few seconds, but it
seemed longer. The stall horn bleeped a few times, but it sure impressed
me that airspeed and ground speed are NOT the same thing.

--


73,
David, kb0zke
Rev. 2:10c


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KR> 51 Percent rule

[Ron Freiberger]

When you take it to the airport, you’ll be about ½ done. ;o)

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KR> angle of incidence, AS504x

[Ron Freiberger]

It might be interesting to put a different wing on one side and fly it.

Seriously, If I had a pair of wings, I'd go fly.  I don't think it's
that big of a deal.  If I had NO wings, I'd sure go with the improved
airfoil.

Many people extol the virtue of different wingtips.  Mooney just cuts
'em off at the end, and they also have good results. \

The main thing is to build them with identical twist.  I've seen some
strange aircraft workmanship.  Do a good job and make 'em right.

Jeff, GO FLY.  I wish I could too.

Ron Freiberger
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-Original Message 
; micha...@tonypickering.com
Subject: Re: KR> angle of incidence, AS504x


I have read much on the new airfoil from the posts... but I am still
left 
wondering

what are the net effects of the new airfoil over the raf48?

I have 2 sets of wings.  DD and another standard set that I've picked
up... 
I am seriously thinking about selling them and building out the new
airfoil.

Anyone have an idea if the effor would be worth the work?

-Jeff


-Jeff Wilder
CISSP,CCE,C/EH



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>From: "Bob Glidden" <glid...@ccrtc.com>
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>
>I think what Mark L is saying is that if your rear spar is already set
for
>the 1 degree there is no real advantage to raising it to 2 degree...
>
>Bob Glidden
>Eminence,Indiana
>KR2S N181FW (building)
>Corvair 110
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>From: "michaela" <micha...@tonypickering.com>
>To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net>
>Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2006 7:36 PM
>Subject: Re: KR> angle of incidence, AS504x
>
>
>Mark et al.:
>I'd like to follow up on your last comment with a
question/clarification.
>
>I've read your thoughts on AOI etc. I believe the project (boat with
main
>spars in place) I just purchased was built to original KR2 plans, so I
>assume it is using 3.5degre AOI for wings?. I intend on going with the
>AS504x.  I've been thinking I will have to find a way to raise the rear

>spar
>to get close to 1-2degree AOI. Are you suggesting its probably not
worth 
>the
>effort if my main concern is cruise AOA at altitude of 5-10K.
>
>I'm also leaning toward lengthening the H.S. and increasing area of
rudder.
>Project appears past point where lengthening the fuse seems reasonable,
so 
>I
>am probably stuck with it as is. But I'd like to make whatever other
tweaks
>I can to improve stability. Of course, I'll play close attention to
keeping
>COG in range...
>
>Anyone's thoughts welcome. Thanks.
>
>Tony
>
>
> >  ---Original Message---
> >  From: Mark Langford <n5...@hiwaay.net>
> >  Subject: Re: KR> angl

KR> "The Pig"

[Ron Freiberger]

Hey! Is there a picture of Porkopolis posted anywhere??

Ron Freiberger
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-Original Message-
From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net] On
Behalf Of Larry Flesner
Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2006 8:48 AM
To: KRnet
Subject: KR> "The Pig"


>
>Many of you have seen the Pig, so you know that looks aren't
everything.

KR> "The Pig"

[Ron Freiberger]

Frank Ross sent pictures of the PIG, and I was very disappointed.  I
expected to see a work of "Ugly Art", after all this publicity.  

Disappointed to see a good looking KR.  

Thanks, Frank.

Ron Freiberger
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-Original Message-
 Hey! Is there a picture of Porkopolis posted anywhere??

Ron Freiberger
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KR> revmaster 2100d

[Ron Freiberger]

Yes, I'd guess that was true, too.

Ron Freiberger
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-Original Message-
From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net] On
Behalf Of w-z...@sbcglobal.net
Sent: Friday, January 27, 2006 7:29 PM
To: KRnet
Subject: Re: KR> revmaster 2100d

So I guess "both" means yes they come with manuals and yes they are 
available from revmaster?



>
>>Do these engines come with service manuals and/or are they available
from
>>revmaster.
>
> Both,
>
>
> Larry Severson
> Fountain Valley, CA 92708
> (714) 968-9852
> lar...@socal.rr.com
>
>
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KR> buying KR plans

[Ron Freiberger]

Ron Freiberger
mail to ronandmar...@earthlink.net 

Well said Oscar.. Persons who steal intellectual property rights
will steal anything else.,  I wonder how many persons would put their
serial number on their net signature block?

On the other hand, I had two sets, inherited with the project, and I
believe that for some time, Wicks sold them for a very low price, W/O
Serial number comments, anyone?

When I started my Mustang Two project, I bought a set of form block
tools and plans.  I wrote to Bob Bushby and asked to buy a number.  He
said no-one had ever done that, so he gave me a FREE serial number.

KR> Carb heat

[Ron Freiberger]

Serge said...
Mark, you battled to find a 
spring that would fill the box and help with the heat transfer. My 
solution will be to close the box both sides, let the air in through 
plenty little holes. For a spring, I will use stainless steel scrubs
(sold 
in France in any convenience store, that are  use to scrub pots and
pans), 
and pack them inside the box before I close it.

Serge, I think you're overdoing it... You'll insulate the exhaust pipe
too much, and probably get excessively hot air.  The "screen door spring
is old practice, and should be easy to do.  Stretch it, wrap it, tie
with a bit of stainless safety wire, and go fly.  Most people use
aluminum for the outer wrap, and it's easy to do. 

Ron Freiberger
mail to ronandmar...@earthlink.net 

KR> update on Flycorvair.com website

[Ron Freiberger]

What are "others" saying about Oscar's timely posts, other than
"Thanks"?

Ron Freiberger
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Thanks Oscar and no matter what others may say regarding your timely
posts, keep it up as some of us don't have the time to constantly check
William's site.
Doug Rupert

KR> Corvair info post

[Ron Freiberger]

Mark, well said.  From my engineering days, I was so frustrated by
Product Assurance types that always wanted to wait for more databefore
accepting the obvious..  Our "experimental " category is supposed to be
a learning process, using past good practices wherever possible.
Nitriding cranks is a perfect example.  I had a Jodel D-11 with and
engine older than I was (that's old).  The new buyer had the crank
ground and polished, (and it'll bet not nitrided).  It failed very
shortly after the "automotive" overhaul, and the aircraft was destroyed
landing in a cornfield.

It would be interesting to know if it's acceptable practice to yellow
tag a reground crankshaft without nitriding.

W Wynne certainly makes a real effort to understand and report.  Thanks,
William.


Ron Freiberger
mail to ronandmar...@earthlink.net 
EAA Tech Counselor #4125

Mark said;

Having read the comments of engine experts (aircraft, heavy equipment,
etc) 
in the field who's first question was "are you sure that crank was
nitrided" 
(see http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford/corvair/flexplate/problem.html )
is 
all I need to know.  It's considered standard practice in industries in 
which maximum crankshaft longevity is expected.   It's guaranteed
insurance 
of significantly more fatigue resistance for the crank.  The reason
William 
didn't use 5 cranks of either type is because he doesn't HAVE 5 nitrided

cranks to check, and it would be irresponsible to sit around waiting for

them. But seeing 7-8 cracked or broken cranks (most of them in KRs) in
the 
last year is enough for any logical thinker to conclude that there is a 
problem that needs fixing, and a $50 nitride job is a pretty good step
in 
the right direction.  If he kept quiet on this issue it would just be a 
matter of time before he had a broken crank that didn't just result in a

forced landing and a trashed engine, but would involve totalled
airplanes 
and/or deceased friends...

Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama
see KR2S project N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford
email to N56ML "at" hiwaay.net 


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KR> Spars

[Ron Freiberger]

Chris said;
Tending to think that a welded 2-3 mil alumimium tank might be the
most crash resistant/puncture proof thing available, around about 70
litres/ 15 gallon capacity, any comments? 

 Yes; Aluminum foil is 2-3 mils.  I don't think that would pass
inspection.

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KR> fRIDAY

[Ron Freiberger]

AW! That's sweet.  To bad I'm to impatient to listen to it all

Ron Freiberger
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On Behalf Of Pat Driscoll
Sent: Friday, December 30, 2005 5:16 PM
To: KRnet
Subject: KR> fRIDAY

OK it's friday so I can put this out but I'll let you choose to go or
not.
   With all the bickering I see on the list it might do some good to
check this out.
http://llerrah.com/doitanyway.htm
Pat Driscoll
Saint Paul, MN 
patric...@usfamily.net
LIFE MAY NOT BE THE PARTY WE HOPED FOR
BUT WHILE WE ARE HERE WE MIGHT AS WELL DANCE!"

KR> Nuts and bolts

[Ron Freiberger]

Serge is never gonna find a rationale for the IMPERIAL SYSTEM.  Furlongs
and Fortnights!!!

Ron Freiberger
mail to ronandmar...@earthlink.net 

KR> Re:Wet Runways in the winter

[Ron Freiberger]

How do you preflight ice buildup?

Ron Freiberger
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Subject: Re: KR> Re:Wet Runways in the winter

I think Kip's story say's a lot for all of us to think about.

The fact that he has flown this plane for 18 years and never had this
problem. Therefore this was never part of his preflight. WOW !!

KR> Aileron Hinges

[Ron Freiberger]

My "guess" is that if Chris Heintz says its good, then it's good

Ron Freiberger
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KR> WAFs revisited

[Ron Freiberger]

Designing an airplane is a lot like designing a chain, but more
repetitive.  The goal is to have ALL of the parts equally strong.  What
is there about the WAFs that suggests they are a weak link?

Ron Freiberger
mail to ronandmar...@earthlink.net 

KR> Primer

[Ron Freiberger]

What ever happened to the pull-out-to -fill-push-in -to-squirt idea..?.
Works well, easy to use, and simple.  Put one line to each side at the
top, use a .016 diameter orifice.

Ron Freiberger
mail to ronandmar...@earthlink.net 

KR> Prop position on C 90

[Ron Freiberger]

It's my understanding that this only applies to
engines with hollow cranks.  I might be
totay wrong here. 
Scott
Yep, you are totally wrong.


Ron Freiberger
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KR> Civil unrest in France

[Ron Freiberger]

No, Serge is in a unique position to tell us what's going on.  He's a
frequent contributor we respect, and has given a real insight into the
problems of licensing an African aircraft in France.  I really
appreciated his info.

Ron Freiberger
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-Original Message-
From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net] On
Behalf Of isaac milton
Sent: Monday, November 14, 2005 10:38 PM
To: KRnet
Subject: Re: KR> Civil unrest in France


Hi guys,

I'm building in Boise Idaho, am African American by
ethniticy,  and was Army Special Forces for nearly 10
years... wounded in Panama in 89, relatively new
pilot, but have taken off 300 more times than I've
landed, so I feel comfortable with you guys.  I enjoy
the threads, it's helped me a lot, and I spend most of
my evenings soaking it up.  I'd appreciate,
respectfully, if you leave the political opinions
elsewhere, as any position has it's counter, and here
is not the place.  Don't you agree?

Isaac Milton
KR-2 ROUSEDABOUT
Boise Idaho, USA

KR> KR Net Post

[Ron Freiberger]

Here's what I sent off-net, if that's an issue;

No, Serge is in a unique position to tell us what's going on.  He's a
frequent contributor we respect, and has given a real insight into the
problems of licensing an African aircraft in France.  I really
appreciated his info.

I didn't notice or care that" rousedabout" was an African American, and
hope HIS ethnicity is not the issue.

Ron Freiberger
mail to ronandmar...@earthlink.net 

KR> LANDING GEAR WIDTH

[Ron Freiberger]

My first homebuilt, the "Ron's 1" had a very narrow gear stance after I
made some changes to Aeronca gear legs made for the military version. (
Streamlined, 4130) The original legs were from an Aeronca Champ.  

Later, I had a Jodel D-11 that was built with the designed attach point,
but Cessna gear legs, which made for a VERY wide gear track.  

Both were easy to land, and I wouldn't care which width it was.  When I
had to move my KR2 project to a new home, I was very annoyed by the
width of the gear track, 'cause it was a real pain trying to get it onto
an available trailer.  Just a bit narrower would have been nice.

The real issue, in my opinion, is the fore and aft location of the
wheels for a taildragger.  I think the axles ought to be at the leading
edge of the wing.  The KR2 is a fair bit aft of that, and I would have
moved it forward if it was easy.  I sold the project for health reasons,
so that's (for sure) an opinion.

If you really want a challenge, try a Pitts Single place.  The axle is
sprung off the firewall, and it's an interesting challenge.  I was
successful on my only try, and was very pleased.

Write me off-line for the story about what opinions are worth.


Ron Freiberger
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KR> Main landing gears - Drilling through spring steel

[Ron Freiberger]

Gosh, that's an even better idea.  Those things don't need to fit all
that well, just clamp

Ron Freiberger
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matt elder said;
Maybe a silly question, but wouldn't you be better  off just using an
AN-6 (3/8) fastener?  The holes would already be  oversized about .5mm
(around .020").
  Then you wouldn't have to drill.

  Just a thought.
  Matt

KR> LANDING GEAR WEIGHT

[Ron Freiberger]

Landing gear weight is pretty much the same in a well designed system.
The ability of Spring steel, aluminum, and fiberglass is about the same
for the same amount of energy absorbed.  The issue is well designed, and
for many situations, actual service in the field is also a good
indicator of suitability.  Sometimes it's a matter of available
materials and resources.  The KR nose gear seems a bit on the weak side
from some reports.  As Larry says, your results may vary.

My opinion is there's not much to be saved, but I would make the gear a
bit longer, and move a bit forward.

Ron Freiberger
mail to ronandmar...@earthlink.net 

KR> LANDING GEAR WIDTH

[Ron Freiberger]

That's easy for you to say, but we don't have snowmobile trailers in
SouthWET Florida.

Ron Freiberger
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-Original Message-
From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net] On
Behalf Of Mark Jones
Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 11:32 AM
To: KRnet
Subject: RE: KR> LANDING GEAR WIDTH

A standard snowmobile trailer will work good. Here is a link showing how
I moved mine.
http://www.flykr2s.com/toairport.html

KR> lighting systems

[Ron Freiberger]

Oscar, I think it's just so you can manage them.  Strobes in fog is very
much a no-no.   I don't think common ground is an issue.

Ron Freiberger
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-Original Message-
From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net] On
Behalf Of Oscar Zuniga
Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 2:41 PM
To: kr...@mylist.net
Subject: KR> lighting systems


I know some of this has been hashed out here before, but I was reading
an 
article in Sport Aviation last night and saw a statement I had not seen 
before.  The statement was that nav lights have to be wired
independently 
from anti-collision lights.  Purpose being that if something smokes, you

don't go completely dark to the outside world.  What I'm wondering is
how 
far the separation of wiring should be.  For example, it is easy to run
a 
common ground out the wing or to the tail for both systems, but it would

seem that that approach would not comply and that separate grounds (DC 
negative) wires should be run for each system, back to the main ground
bus.

The discussion here (and other lists concerned with experimentals) is
that 
our systems and lighting need not comply with TSO's for equipment nor 
approved materials for installation.  I do think we all agree that best 
practices should be followed, therefore my question.  Comments-?

Oscar Zuniga
San Antonio, TX
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KR> battery had bulged

[Ron Freiberger]

That 5.4 Amp Charge rate is a rel tipoff.

Ron Freiberger
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 This is a UPS (uninteruptable power supply) type battery and is
optimized by a charge rate of  5.4A till it reaches 14.4 to 14.7 volts.
Once fully charged this type of battery must have a charger that either
shuts itself down or goes into a float voltage mode. A

KR> Battery Mount

[Ron Freiberger]

NAH!  I Love it when they ramble on and on and on and onwith  an
inappropriate subject.  Adds a bit of mystery to the net.  I think Dan's
getting crotchety.

And, I really appreciate it when they don't delete the tail end. ;o)

Ron Freiberger
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-Original Message-
From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net] On
Behalf Of Dan Heath
Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2005 11:15 AM
To: kr...@mylist.net
Subject: Re: KR> Battery Mount


Somebody needs to change the subject on this.  Maybe something like ramp
aircraft covers or something like that? 

See N64KR at http://KRBuilder.org - Then click on the pics 
See you in Mt. Vernon - 2006 - KR Gathering
There is a time for building and a time for FLYING and the time for
building has expired. Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC ---Original
Message---

From: VIRGIL N SALISBURY
List-Post: krnet@list.krnet.org
Date: 10/16/05 11:05:36
To: kr...@mylist.net
Subject: Re: KR> Battery Mount

In a marine area, check out thr boat covers. Used ones may be
free or cheap. An over sized one may have enough material to easily do a
plane, Virg

On Sun, 16 Oct 2005 09:49:16 -0400 "Brian Kraut"
<brian.kr...@engalt.com>
writes:
> I checked with a marine canvas shop, but it was too expensive so I 
> made it myself.  I used Sunbrell canvas which is a good UV blocking 
> marine canvas
> and the materials were about $800.00.  I probably have about 20
> hours labor
> in the cover.  Other than the home economics class we had to take in
> junior
> high 20 years ago I have no other sewing experience so it is pretty
> easy and
> anyone can do it, or talk their wife into it.
>
> At the time the difference between a hanger and a tie down here was 
> about $300 a month if you could even get a hanger so it was pretty 
> much a no
> brainer for me to keep it otside.
>
> Brian Kraut
> Engineering Alternatives, Inc.
> www.engalt.com
>
> -Original Message-
> From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net 
>mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net;>krnet-boun...@mylist.net
[mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net]On
> Behalf Of Robert L. Stone
> Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2005 10:54 AM
> To: KRnet
> Subject: Re: KR> Battery Mount
>
>
> Hi Brian,
>  I noticed in the second picture at the bottom of this e-mail you 
> have a cover that covers your KR completly.  Where in the world did 
> you get that
> cover, I suspect you had it custom made???
>
> Bob Stone, Harker Heights, Tx
> rsto...@hot.rr.com
> - Original Message -
> From: "Brian Kraut" <brian.kr...@engalt.com>
> To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net>
> Sent: Friday, October 14, 2005 10:10 PM
> Subject: RE: KR> Battery Mount
>
>
> > You can look at www.engalt.com/kr2.htm and click on engine.  I had
> a
> > simple
> > aluminum sheet metal box with no sides and long bolts on the top.
> This is
> > the way the plane was when I bought it and it worked fine.  It had
> some
> > insulation wrapped around the battery.
> >
> > The one thing I would prefer to have if I was starting from
> scratch is an
> > enclosed box to contain the acid if the battery leaks.  You can
> buy cheap
> > bigger battery boxes at boat supply stores.  I assume that you can
> find
> > motorcycle size plastic battery boxes from motorcycle parts
> suppliers
> > also.
> > Make sure that you also have some kind of strap to keep it from
> coming out
> > the top in negative G maneuvers.
> >
> > Brian Kraut
> > Engineering Alternatives, Inc.
> > www.engalt.com
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net
> [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net]On
> > Behalf Of jscott.pi...@juno.com
> > Sent: Friday, October 14, 2005 8:53 PM
> > To: kr...@mylist.net
> > Subject: Re: KR> Battery Mount
> >
> >
> > Mine is done very much like Larry's upper battery.  It sits on a
> piece of
> > 1/4" angle aluminum with a pair of long holddown bolts and a
> simple strap
> > to hold the battery tight against the firewall.
> >
> > I was told that with my battery sitting about 3 inches from the
> left
> > exhaust pipe, my battery wouldn't last a year.  The first one
> failed
> > after 4 1/2 years and 325 hours.  The second one is 4 years old
> with 210
> > hours behind it and still functions normally.
> >
> > Jeff Scott
> > N1213W
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Fri, 14 Oct 2005 18:25:00 -0500 larry flesner
> <fles...@midwest.net>
> > writes:
> >>
> >> >I need to mount my sealed 15 amp

KR> stall/spin accidents

[Ron Freiberger]

Spins are fun after you learn the drill, and one thing you'll learn is
NEVER let that happen close to the ground.

Ron Freiberger
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KR> Fuselage lofting

[Ron Freiberger]

This message is from someone impersonating VIRG.  He doesn't write such
long messages.

Ron Freiberger
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From: krnet-bounces+ronandmartha=earthlink@mylist.net
[mailto:krnet-bounces+ronandmartha=earthlink@mylist.net] On Behalf
Of VIRGIL N SALISBURY
Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2005 2:48 PM
To: kr...@mylist.net
Subject: Re: KR> Fuselage lofting


The plans show the flat side dimensions. Just draw on the table.
Make the top 
and bottom measurments the same and avoid the banana boat. You will be
glad you did, 
HUFF PUFF, Virg

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KR> 115Volt AC instrument

[Ron Freiberger]

The 60Hz frequency will not provide the right load.  Not a good idea.
Plug it into the wall socket to see.

Ron Freiberger
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From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net] On
Behalf Of harold woods
Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2005 3:24 PM
To: kr...@mylist.net
Subject: KR> 115Volt AC instrument


Hi Netters,
All is not lost with the instrument, Converters are light and not too 
expensive these days. They will convert your 12V DC into 115 V AC. The
power 
requirement of the instrument cannot be too high. . Check at an
Automotive 
store for a converter.
Regards
Harold Woods
Orillia, ON..Canada
harold wo...@rogers.com 


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RE: Réf. : RE: Réf. : KR> RE: Dual Ignition Systems, it Saved My Bacon - CORRECTION

[Ron Freiberger]

Interesting, but not "Dual Ignition".

Ron Freiberger
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-Original Message-
From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net] On
Behalf Of Robert Morrissey
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2005 8:37 PM
To: KRnet
Subject: Re: Réf. : RE: Réf. : KR> RE: Dual Ignition Systems, it Saved
My Bacon - CORRECTION

Serge:   As a former  "Liaison Engineer'  for a big aerospace company
that
was bought out by Boeing I will give you the SOP (standard operating
procedure) for your aircrafts 'non conformance' that occurred during
'manufacturing' or 'depot level overhaul". (My text book answer)
FOR THE;
a. original WAFs with the oversize 3/8 inch hole---are they a standard
oversize?  Let us assume they are not a standard size.

Looking at FWD WING ATTACH FITTINGS, drawing no. 18   in my RR book
pg.23

KR> KR Gathering Photos

[Ron Freiberger]

WOW! I see a BSA Bantam, much like one from the 50's.  Thanks

Ron Freiberger
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KR> KR Gathering Photos

[Ron Freiberger]

Sorry, I meant to send this only to Frank Ross.
 My apologies to the NET

Ron Freiberger
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-Original Message-
From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net] On
Behalf Of Ron Freiberger
Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2005 11:37 AM
To: 'KRnet'
Subject: RE: KR> KR Gathering Photos

WOW! I see a BSA Bantam, much like one from the 50's.  Thanks

Ron Freiberger
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RE: Réf. : Re: KR> Hello...anybody there???

[Ron Freiberger]

LOL is Laughing out loud, a subset of ROTFLMAO; Rolling on the, floor
laughing my ass off.

Good to hear from you.

Ron Freiberger
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-Original Message-
From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net] On
Behalf Of Serge VIDAL
Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2005 4:05 AM
To: KRnet
Subject: Réf. : Re: KR> Hello...anybody there???

Forgive my ignorance, but could somebody tell me what does LOL mean?

Serge Vidal
KR2 "Kilimanjaro Cloud"
Paris, France

KR> Phil - mailbox still full

[Ron Freiberger]

Well,then, I guess eveyone will get the message but Phil!

Ron Freiberger
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-Original Message-
From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net] On
Behalf Of Dan Heath
Sent: Monday, August 29, 2005 7:28 AM
To: kr...@mylist.net
Subject: KR> Phil - mailbox still full


Dan

KR> Wanted - KR2S Boat

[Ron Freiberger]

There was never any doubt about that part.

Ron Freiberger
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And it is built exactly per the plans.
Sorry Virg, I couldn't help myself.




Brian Kraut
Engineering Alternatives, Inc.
www.engalt.com 

-Original Message-
From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net]On
Behalf Of VIRGIL N SALISBURY
Sent: Sunday, August 07, 2005 1:09 PM
To: kr...@mylist.net
Subject: Re: KR> Wanted - KR2S Boat


$500, Miami, Fl, Virg Center spars incl.


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Virgil N. Salisbury - AMSOIL
www.lubedealer.com/salisbury
Miami ,Fl

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KR> TEST

[Ron Freiberger]

Phil, Sorry to say I cannot load
http://mywebpage.netscape.com/flyingkrphil or the appended /VHKPR.html.
However, the other three links load nicely.


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From: krnet-bounces+ronandmartha=earthlink@mylist.net
[mailto:krnet-bounces+ronandmartha=earthlink@mylist.net] On Behalf
Of Phillip Matheson
Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2005 3:12 AM
To: Phillip Matheson; KRnet
Subject: Re: KR> TEST



Phil Matheson
mathes...@dodo.com.au
VH-PKR  ( Phil's KR)
61 3 58833588
Australia.( Down Under)
See My KR2 Building Web Page at:
http://mywebpage.netscape.com/flyingkrphil/VHPKR.html
See our VW Engines and Home built web page at http://www.vw-engines.com/
www.homebuilt-aviation.com/ http://corvair.vw-engines.com/

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KR> The Citation Won

[Ron Freiberger]

I've had a similar experience.  We had a SAC  base and frequently had
the pass over.  If the "sarge " was downstairs for coffee, we were
unreadable.

Ron Freiberger
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Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at
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KR> Experimental Aviation

[Ron Freiberger]

The experiment in "EXPERIMENTAL" is allowing amateurs to build
airplanes, not a license to use just any design or material you might
have laying around.  
Ron Freiberger

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KR> Windmilling

[Ron Freiberger]

Gav said, 

"It works with Lycos and Continentals why wouldn't it work with a
VW"



It works with old, tired  Lycomings and Continentals.  With a tight
engine, probably never.  However, a touch of the starter ( if you have
one) will bring it to high rpms quickly in a well established dive.

Ron Freiberger
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KR> Having a washer under the head

[Ron Freiberger]

Brian's comments are correct, in my opinion.  If you will look at the
underside of a bolt head, you will see a nice little radius , which is a
stress reliever. (also see recent comments about radii in crankshafts).
In fact, there is a right way to turn the washer so that the punch side
is toward the head.

I've been a Designee, then Tech Counselor for about 33 years, and a
Mechanical engineer for 48 years, and have never seen a satisfactory
REASON for a limit of two washers under a nut.  More to the point, where
the bolt is carrying a shear load  ( think WAFs ) you need to be
absolutely sure that the body of the bolt passes completely through the
fitting, not threads in the fitting. At LEAST one thick washer, and as
many as needed to allow visual inspection to confirm that the nut is
torqued properly, not bottomed out on the threads.  

SEE AC43-13-1B, Section 7-37, which says maximum 1/8 inch of washers,
but no reason stated.

Ron Freiberger
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From: krnet-bounces+ronandmartha=earthlink@mylist.net
[mailto:krnet-bounces+ronandmartha=earthlink@mylist.net] On Behalf
Of bgd...@vvm.com
Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 8:52 AM
To: KRnet
Subject: Re: KR> Re:wing attach

Hi All!
  I'm of the opinion that a washer under the head is best for spreading
the forces out more evenly.  Also when the bolt is turned on
installation the proper way is to only turn the nut.  While I know that
this does not always happen.  Having a washer under the head will tend
to reduce scratches and stress risers.
  Just my opinion
Brian G. Douglas

KR> Crankshafts

[Ron Freiberger]

Mark, you said;
But something else WW said got me to wondering"aircraft cranks have
to be properly radiused when grinding, and most automotive machine shops
don't do that".

I had a nice Jodel, high time engine.  I sold it, and the buyer had some
problems; had the crankshaft chromed up to size and reground.  Was not
radiused.  Broke.  Aircraft destroyed  by landing in a mature fiels of
corn.

Also, I had a Crankshaft extension on Ron's 1 .  After I took it off, I
felt a LOT better.

Sorry for your problems, but it sounds like you handled it REALLY WELL.
Good for you!




Ron Freiberger
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KR> Facet Pumps and Gravity Feed

[Ron Freiberger]

This has been covered before, but I'll do  it one more time.  Facet
pumps have a check valve, and the "cracking" pressure is inconsistent.
I have measured it as high as 20 inches of water. You must have a bypass
check valve or a second fuel pump, such as engine driven, etcetera.
There is a very good one in A/S, search for ANDAIR Check Valve.
Built from aircraft grade Aluminum and anodized for corrosion protection
this lightweight and compact unit is excellent. The check valve is ideal
for tank vents and high pressure fuel pump bypass lines. Its extremely
light weight internal shuttle operates with the slightest pressure yet
the internal O-ring seals allow the unit to be used up to 50 PSI. Other
qualities include break out pressure less than 1 PSI, great flow
characteristics around shuttle, and bleed allows shuttle to weep off
pressure in the event of a blocked line. Features AN-6 (3/8") fitting on
bottom. Valve measures 5/16" dia. x 2.75" long.
.Tlongcrier alludes to this variability is his email.  Failure to ensure
a good bypass is an accident in progress.   An intermediate problem is
unobserved lean mixture which eventually creates it's own set of
problems.  

Ron Freiberger
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KR> blah, blah, blah, blah, blah the old days

[Ron Freiberger]

Mark, keep on keepin' on, and ignore fuzzynuts@comcast

Ron Freiberger
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KR> Round Runways

[Ron Freiberger]

Ron Freiberger
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Mark Jones said;
 Wouldn't it be nice to have big round runways then we could always
land directly into the wind.


[Ron Freiberger]
 We have one at Converse, Indiana.  It was built for the Navy at Bunker
Hill NAS, Now Grissom AFB.  This was for touch and go practice for
beginning aviators.  It's an 800 foot Octagon.  For many years it was
kind of abandoned, 'cause there was a drainage trough across the middle.
It was wood, and had rotted out.  The city of Converse repaired it, and
it sometimes the site of Giant scale model airplane meets, with enough
room for flying and all the campers.  Drop in if you're that way.  More
facilities at Kokomo, which was a satellite base of BHNAS, now operated
by the city.  *00 feet is nice for most of us, when it's straight into
the wind and easy approaches,

Ron Freiberger 
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KR> Forward spinner bulkhead

[Ron Freiberger]

  I first flew Ron's 1 (N10RF) to Oshkosh in '72.  On the way home, I
was so pleased with the airplane; I was just touching the panel, amazed
at how smooth it was.  Then, All hell broke loose briefly, then went
away.
  I went on home, and when I arrived, I saw that my beautiful, polished
aluminum spinner had departed the aircraft. A PIPER spinner with a
fastened front bulkhead lived happily ever after.  As far as I know, the
aircraft is still flying, registered as N60JD.

200 hours of "success" has been mentioned; that's not many hours.
Fastening the bulkhead is easy, take very little effort. 

Ron Freiberger
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KR> Video of First Flight

[Ron Freiberger]

Looks like James missed the courtesy class too>  This must be smart-ass
Friday ????

Ron Freiberger
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f JAMES C FERRIS
 This is a bunch of crap there is no flight here I have ran it three
times
already.
Jim 

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KR> Changes in General

[Ron Freiberger]

http://www.ellison-fluid-systems.com/homebuilt_court_decision.htm 
This is an interesting article that tells you some of the pitfalls of
undocumented changes.  You have a lot to lose by failure to do it right.

Ron Freiberger
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KR> KR2 For Sale on Barnstormers...

[Ron Freiberger]

Rhartwig said;
"I have tried everything i can think of to get to barnstormes"
  You're spelling BARNSTORMERS wrong   ;o)
Ron Freiberger
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KR> tech advisors; not profane...

[Ron Freiberger]

Andy's right, but could we also leave the Tech counselors out of the
issue?  Did anyone EVER try a new subject line?
Ron Freiberger
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Subject: KR> tech advisors

Dear Netters,
I find it quite shocking that such bad language can be used on the 
net. My suggestion, : If you need to swear at each other, surely you 
can do it by using each other's private e-mails and not the net. I have 
found the net a very good and informative place to get info, but I am 
shocked to the bone by this last lot of foul language. 
Can we start again by keeping it about KR's and not personal 
vendettas? 
Andy Hatting
South Africa

FW: KR> Parachute FAR

[Ron Freiberger]

wesley scott  said
k...@spottedowl.biz


I would interpret that to mean that if you are flying solo there is no
requirement to wear a parachute when doing aerobatics.



I think that is exactly correct.  Also, imagine two persons in a KR
wearing 'chutes.  Probably couldn't get out.  Anyone serious about aero
should also have a jettison arrangement for the canopy.

Ron Freiberger
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KR> tech advisors

[Ron Freiberger]

Thanks Orma.  There's a place for everything, but this isn't the place
for that.  As a Tech advisor, I wonder how we got in the issue.

Ron Freiberger
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-Original Message-
From: krnet-bounces+ronandmartha=earthlink@mylist.net
[mailto:krnet-bounces+ronandmartha=earthlink@mylist.net] On Behalf
Of Orma
Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2005 5:21 PM
To: gleone; KRnet; jsaupe6...@earthlink.net
Subject: Re: KR> tech advisors

All of you involved in this 9/11 thread need to read the rules for the
KR 
net.  Your discussion pro or con is not wanted here.

Orma
Southfield, MI
N110LR Tweety, old enough to drink this year
Flying and more flying, to the gathering or bust
http://www.kr-2.aviation-mechanics.com/ 



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KR> Folding Wing Brackets

[Ron Freiberger]

Phil Matheson's Pics are very helpful, but I cannot see the 4th view.
The sliding tube portion was also used on the Bowers Flybaby, and is
very useful.  With only the tube, you need a friend, but that's not hard
to find. On the flybaby, the tube was 3/4 inch aluminum, which was
adequate.   

Ron Freiberger
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-Original Message-
From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net] On
Behalf Of Phillip Matheson

I found a simple Folding Wing bracket at the Australian an Air Show.
The partly built Aussie design PT-3 has the same WAF as the KR . They
have
designed a very simple 4130 sliding tube and locking device, so one
person
can release the wing and fold it back

KR> First Flight/Training Wheel

[Ron Freiberger]

Colin, Nice thoughts, but once you learn to fly right, you'll never want
a training wheel.LMAO 2  ;o)

Ron Freiberger
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-Original Message-
From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net] On
Behalf Of Colin & Bev Rainey
Sent: Monday, March 21, 2005 11:13 AM
To: KRnet
Subject: Re: KR> First Flight/Training Wheel

Mark
That was precious!!  I love that one about the slot! LMAO.
I got tears laughing so hard.  I am very proud of you man, and if the
man 
had told me it would have taken less than 2 weeks to change over this
one to 
tri-gear I probably would have had it done.  I just didn't want to wait,
and 
now I really enjoy the challenge that it presents to make me maintain my

flying skill with the plane.  You are wise to stick with what your
majority 
hours are in though.  You will spend many more landings in the familiar 
zone.  Heck there may come a day here where I opt out and modify for the

"training wheel" just for ease of landing and taxi.

Good job and your first flight!  I know you feel it was way over due,
but I 
really believe God held you back until now, so that you and the weather,
and 
the plane were truly ready.  I can't wait to get that Corvair motor on
mine. 
Jim Ferris called last night and we are going to look together for a
couple 
of motors, and since he lives right here in Sanford, we are going to
build 2 
up together.

Keep in touch brother, and HHHAA!

Colin & Beverly Rainey
Apex Lending, Inc.
407-323-6960 (p)
407-557-3260 (f)
www.eloan2004cr.com
crai...@apexlending.com



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KR> Parts found... Jeltema

[Ron Freiberger]

Dave Jeltema bought my project, and may have sold it.  Cleaning the
garage today, I found some parts that belong to someone other than me.
Can anyone help?

Ron Freiberger
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