KR> Mark's SportAir Link

[Toad]

Mark,

Could you update the link to the writeup you did on the SportAir welding 
workshop you attended.  You gave the link in the last couple of weeks or so and 
with your web site change it no longer works and I was unable to locate it on 
your new page.  (I did find a few other things I want to spend more time 
reading though.)

Thanks for all you do.

KR> North Carolina address

[Toad]

Lee,

Ask the question on the flypreceptor yahoo group.  I have seen discussions 
there regarding calls to the owner.  I also just noticed that the Preceptor web 
site is down.

--- On Sun, 5/2/10, Lee Van Dyke  wrote:

From: Lee Van Dyke 
Subject: KR> North Carolina address
To: "KRnet" 
List-Post: krnet@list.krnet.org
Date: Sunday, May 2, 2010, 11:54 PM

SE netters does anybody on the net live near.   4250 US Hwy 64-74A 
Rutherfordton, NC 28139.  I'm trying to get in touch with of owner of the 
preceptor aircraft co.

Lee Van Dyke
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KR> KRSuper2

[Toad]

Solly,
I know you didn't mean for your email to go to everyone, but I'd like you to 
know that at least I am one person who did appreciate getting the info.
I am very interested in the KR2 aircraft, but the ability to avoid many years 
of building and have a superior end result is very attractive.  Please let me 
know how to keep track of your progress on the development of your experimental 
version of your airplane development.
Byron KellyColorado

--- On Tue, 9/29/09, Solly Melyon  wrote:

From: Solly Melyon 
Subject: Re: KR> KRSuper2
To: "KRnet" 
List-Post: krnet@list.krnet.org
Date: Tuesday, September 29, 2009, 8:56 PM

Hello David,
My first airplane was a KR2.  Like most of us the reason was because it was a 
pretty little airplane for very little money.  It was twitchy but I managed to 
fly and enjoy it for a while until I felt that I want something with more 
utility and better stability. That was 20 years ago.
In reality, the KR2 is a fairly complex aircraft to build.  It takes most 
builders 2000 hours to finish.
It is not inexpensive any more.  You'll spend over $20,000 and more likely 
$25,000 to $30,000 for a nice one with decent panel
Its flying qualities may have improved with the stretched version of the KR2S 
but it still lacks in comfort and utility.  I am not telling you all that After 
telling you all that 
I would to discourage you from building, but if you are going to spend the 
time, efforts and money why not build a newer airplane design.  
We at Aeromax aviation had designed an  aircraft based on years of aircraft 
building experience and were able to combine all the good qualities of several 
aircraft designs into one that would make for the best all around airplane.
A Safe and stable airplane that is extremely comfortable (44" cabin), with high 
utility, longer range and excellent performance.  You can build it either as a 
LSA or a fast airplane.  Our design utilizes various materials and methods for 
manufacturing the airframe parts so that we can offer you an airplane kit that 
would take less than 600 hours to build.  
We have also designed and developed the best Integral Front Bearing (patent 
pending) for improving the Corvair engines reliability.  Our integral rear 
mount alternator and starter makes for the best and most efficient engine you 
can find.
I invite you to visit our web page:  www.aeromaxaviation.com  and look at our 
products: Aircraft / Corvair based engines / parts for the do it yourself / 
Fire wall forward kits.  
The KRsuper2
A great improvement over the KR2.  The fuselage is made as a moldless 
composite.  No longer the intricate wood buildup but still needs quite a bit of 
time to shape and finish.  Our Aeromax fuselage is made in a mold.  The 
aircraft was designed by myself based on my previous aircraft design the Super 
Pulsar 100.  The molds were made on a 5 axis cNc router.  
The wing of the super 2 is comprised of a 15 ft. center section and two 
outboard wings.  I does present an issue when you want to trailer the airplane. 
 YOu'll have to detach the centeer wing as well for transport.  It uses a 
composite / carbon (expensive) Spar.  We have decided to design a wing 
utilizing the well proven wood spar 7 ft. center section for ease of transport. 
 and two outboard wings of 9.5 ft each for a total of 26 ft span.  The airfoil 
is the same AS5416 tapering down to 12% at the tip.  
the aeromax was designed to offer you the kit advantages at a Plans built 
aircraft cost.
 
Whatever you'll decide to build remember that we are here to help you in your 
project.  
Feel free to contact us with whatever question you might have.
Bill Clapp -Engines inquiries.
Solly Melyon - Aircraft kit inquiries. 
Sincerely,
Cell:323.841.4822
Solly Melyon-  Mgr
AeroMax Aviation, LLC
www.aeromaxaviation.com
229.241.1175

--- On Tue, 9/29/09, David Lininger  wrote:


From: David Lininger 
Subject: KR> KRSuper2
To: "KRnet" 
List-Post: krnet@list.krnet.org
Date: Tuesday, September 29, 2009, 5:55 PM


On Labor Day I posted that I finally had the fuselage sides back on the 
work table, and nothing else on the table. I received several 
congratulatory messages, and one that was a little different. Ted 
Sanders sent me a link to the KRSuper2, KRSuper2.com which looks 
interesting. I wrote back to him with some questions, but never got an 
answer. I thought he might have been at the gathering, so I didn't get 
too worried about not hearing from him right away. I wrote again, 
though, last week. I still haven't heard from him.

Does anyone actually have one of these planes flying? Has anyone done 
any structural analysis of it? The KR2 I consider a proven plane, in 
that they have been flying for 30 years or so. The new wing has been 
thoroughly researched and several examples are flying. Does anyone know 
anything about this variation, though?


-- 
David 

Mark - Re: KR> I Need Some Advice From Flying KR'ers

[Toad]

Mark,

Check your link:  http://www.krnet.com/

Appears to be taken over by the Chinese at the moment.

Toad

--- On Sun, 5/31/09, Mark Langford <n5...@hiwaay.net> wrote:

From: Mark Langford <n5...@hiwaay.net>
Subject: Re: KR> I Need Some Advice From Flying KR'ers
To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net>
List-Post: krnet@list.krnet.org
Date: Sunday, May 31, 2009, 3:03 PM

Dwight Hapeman wrote

> 1. In your opinion, is a properly constructed KR2S every bit as solid and 
> stable an aircraft as the Sonex?

The Sonex is probably a little more stable, just because it's larger with 
more distance between wing and horizontal stabilizer.  As for "solid", I'd 
think the Sonex probably sounds a little tinny inside compared to a KR, 
which should dampen noise and vibration with the wood fuselage.  Probably 
esoteric though.

> 2. Do you think that a KR2S might be just a little too much for a brand 
> new pilot to handle?

Several have done that and are still around to tell about it, especially a 
tri-gear.  It really is easy to fly though, especially with the CG in the 
front half of the range...just different.

> 3. Since the KR2S is not a airplane kit with step-by-step instructions, I 
> am a little concerned about getting bogged down or doing things 
> incorrectly along the way.  On the other hand, I can see myself getting 
> bored with step-by-step instructions.  I appreciate any input on this 
> point.

Sounds like soul searching time to me.  One thing about the KR is that they 
are all unique, if that matters to you.  It's very easy to "have it your 
way".  I'm guessing you could build a Sonex in half the time of a KR, but 
again, I'm no expert on Sonex building.  A "nice" KR will take you 2000-2500 
hours to build, I think.  An acceptable one that flys and is lots of fun 
will be 1500 or so, minimum.  That may be typical Sonex build time, for all 
I know.
That could be years of flying.

> 4. From what I have read, the KR2 is a faster, better performing aircraft 
> than the Sonex.  Do you think the difference in performance is worth the 
> extra investment in time and money to get a Private Pilot certificate?
You can make your wings two feet longer and if it was built light, it'd 
qualify for Light Sport, but you'd have to call it a DH2 or something (KR's 
are already known not to make it by one knot, I think it is).  If the Sonex 
is already LSA, that's certainly a stress-relieving consideration.

> 5. Am I correct that the KR2S & Sonex are approximately in the same price 
> range to complete, say $20-$25k?

I'm no expert on the Sonex, but you can build a 15K KR with moderate 
scrounging skills.

> 6. The KR builder community is large, friendly and very knowledgeable, but 
> there is virtually no factory support.  The factory support from Sonex is 
> great.  I believe that this point is a wash.  Am I correct?

With the webpages on www.krnet.com, I don't know how you could go wrong, 
especially with the KRnet help.

> 7. I would like to use whatever aircraft I build for training for my 
> pilot's certificate.  I plan on completing ground training as the aircraft 
> project nears completion.  Any thoughts on this?

Either one would work, but odds are that a CFI will be more likely to climb 
into a Sonex than a KR.  I also have no doubt that you'd be able to find a 
CFI that would fly the KR, but somebody's going to have to fly the time off 
on the KR first (somebody more fluent on the LSA rules will have to clarify 
the length of time and details though...I'm not up on that.

> 8. If I build a KR2S will I be able to get an A& P certificate to do the 
> maintenance & repairs on it?

Ditto above, I defer to one of the several knowledgeable folks on that on.

> 9. I live near Denver, Colorado and the plane may be left outside, tied 
> down at times.  Is this an issue with either plane?

The Sonex will fare much better than the KR outside.

> 10. I like the idea of using the modified Corvair or VW engine.  Am I 
> correct that Corvair or VW power is a good choice for either aircraft.

Both have been done and work well.  See Dan Weseman's "Kleenex" for more on 
the Sonex with a 3100cc engine.  He really tears the sky up with that thing.

Another issue is resale value.  If you plan to resell it, the Sonex will 
hold value much better than the KR, if that's a factor for you.  Personally, 
I don't know how people can build KRs and then sell them, but that's just 
me.

See http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford/kopinion.html for more biased 
opinions...

Mark Langford
commie, socialist, pinko, ingrate, friend of sheep, overall scumbag...
N56ML "at" hiwaay.net
website at http://www.N56ML.com


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KR> stick force meter, English coast photo link

[Toad]

Wow, I only asked a couple of simple questions, both of which seemed 
reasonable.  I am sorry that you choose to be so anti-American, especially 
considering everything this country has provided for you and others here.  My 
original question was prompted by the fact that this week many proud and 
observant Americans reflected on the supreme sacrifices this country has made 
for others, including over 140,000 men who will never come home from Europe and 
who are forever to be what you might consider "emperialist occupiers" of those 
countries.  I never mentioned politics, and I would certainly not care to 
discuss them, especially on this forum.

Byron Kelly
Denver, CO

--- On Sat, 5/30/09, Dana Overall  wrote:

From: Dana Overall 
Subject: RE: KR> stick force meter, English coast photo link
To: toadkelly2...@yahoo.com
List-Post: krnet@list.krnet.org
Date: Saturday, May 30, 2009, 4:41 AM




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Didn't say the US was bad as your twisted Rush Limbaugh reply indicated, just 
we acted like total assholes for the last eight years.  We deserve the 
snobbish, egomaniac, imperialist labels, much like your nearsided reply, earned 
by our imperialist actions of the eight years.
  
Dana Overall 

Richmond, KY i39

RV-7 slider "Black Magic" 
Flying..well sorta, useta, kinda
Barrett Precision O 360 A1A
Hartzell C2YR-1BFP/F7497-2 
http://rvflying.tripod.com/blackmagic.jpg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMi05-WU2D0#GU5U2spHI_4
http://rvflying.tripod.com

do not archive 



List-Post: krnet@list.krnet.org
Date: Fri, 29 May 2009 16:49:14 -0700
From: toadkelly2...@yahoo.com
Subject: RE: KR> stick force meter, English coast photo link
To: bo12...@hotmail.com

So, when are you planning on leaving and where are you choosing to go live that 
is an improvement?

Byron Kelly
Denver, CO

--- On Fri, 5/29/09, Dana Overall  wrote:

From: Dana Overall 
Subject: RE: KR> stick force meter, English coast photo link
To: toadkelly2...@yahoo.com
List-Post: krnet@list.krnet.org
Date: Friday, May 29, 2009, 2:27 PM




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If you haven't been out of this country during the last 8 years, you
wouldn't understandI'm surprised it wasn't more than just a
groanand it's well deserved!!

Dana Overall 

Richmond, KY i39

RV-7 slider "Black Magic" 
Flying..well sorta, useta, kinda
Barrett Precision O 360 A1A
Hartzell C2YR-1BFP/F7497-2 
http://rvflying.tripod.com/blackmagic.jpg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMi05-WU2D0#GU5U2spHI_4
http://rvflying.tripod.com

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> Date: Fri, 29 May 2009 13:10:25 -0700
> From: toadkelly2...@yahoo.com
> Subject: Re: KR> stick force meter, English coast photo link
> To: kr...@mylist.net
> 
> Beautiful area and photos, but what is with this comment?:
> 
> "She was Brazilian,and he was Peruvian.  I said I was American, and she 
> groaned.  I can't blame her.
> 
> 
> "
> 
> Are you being apologetic for being American and for being from the country 
> that saved that country from falling to the Germans?
> 
> Byron Kelly
> Denver, CO  USA
> 
> 
> --- On Fri, 5/29/09, Mark Langford  wrote:
> 
> From: Mark Langford 
> Subject: KR> stick force meter, English coast photo link
> To: "KRnet" 
> Cc: "Corvair engines for homebuilt aircraft"
 
> Date: Friday, May 29, 2009, 1:48 PM
> 
> NetHeads,
> 
> My wife recently bought me a gizmo to weigh my bag before I come back over 
> from here (I didn't want to bring my 10-pound 400 lb scale that I bought for 
> weight and balances), and it's only $15-$20 (at least that's what you would 
> admit).  Last night I was trying to figure out what else I could do with it, 
> and it occured to me that it might as well have been custom designed to read 
> stick forces!    It even reads in tenths of a pound.  See 
> http://www.balanzza.com/ for details.  I think it was bought at Target or 
> somewhere similar.  I smell stick force testing in the air.  The only 
> irritating thing is that it locks in on a number after a second or so, rather 
> than a continuous reading, but I think it'll be helpful.
> 
> Also, I'm in the middle of filling in my logbook (the last entry was
 November), and it looks like I'm going to break 760 hours in the KR.  The EIS 
info is how I really keep up with flights and hours.  I name each flight a 
"flight number" with a little description in the title like "LCL" or 
"OSH-return", and the hobbs hours are in the file.  Number of landings is 
easy...I just scroll through the airspeed and altitude columns to find where I 
slowed down below 50 mph, and count each one of those as a landing.  It's 
either a landing or a crash, 

KR> History?

[Toad]

Sorry, it was a gross simplification.  I guess I should have stated that 
without the U.S., Britton, Russia, and all of Europe would have fallen.  
Brittan's "few", including volunteer pilots from the U.S. and Canada, did an 
incredible job, but Brittan's resources were limited and as a combined force 
with the United States, the outcome was still frighteningly close.  It is scary 
to think what may have happened had German technology been allowed to advance 
another 6 months.  Without American daylight bombings with thousands of 
aircraft involved, the outcome would have definitely been different.  You're 
not suggesting that those thousands of American aircraft didn't change the 
course of the war are you?  

Sorry for openning up a can of worms.

Byron Kelly
Denver, CO USA



--- On Fri, 5/29/09, Teate, Stephen  wrote:

From: Teate, Stephen 
Subject: KR> History?
To: "KRnet" 
List-Post: krnet@list.krnet.org
Date: Friday, May 29, 2009, 3:06 PM


"for being from the country that saved that country from falling to the
Germans?"

I know I shouldn't respond to this but to suggest that the United States
is responsible for saving Great Brittan from the Germans is just wrong.
It was England's "Few" that defeated Hitler's Luftwaffe and without
control of the air Hitler cancel Operation Sea Lion the invasion of
England. In addition, by this time he had already set his sights on his
true prize which was Barbarossa the invasion of the Soviet Union. This
was all done long before the United States was "officially" involved.
Besides the "Few" American pilots that volunteered our involvement
included some surplus ships and supplies for their troops. To even think
that the United States "saved that country" is a gross over
simplification of the final outcome and lacks the respect that the
British soldier so honorably deserves. 

Stephen Teate
Paradise, Texas


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KR> stick force meter, English coast photo link

[Toad]

Beautiful area and photos, but what is with this comment?:

"She was Brazilian,and he was Peruvian.  I said I was American, and she 
groaned.  I can't blame her.


"

Are you being apologetic for being American and for being from the country that 
saved that country from falling to the Germans?

Byron Kelly
Denver, CO  USA


--- On Fri, 5/29/09, Mark Langford  wrote:

From: Mark Langford 
Subject: KR> stick force meter, English coast photo link
To: "KRnet" 
Cc: "Corvair engines for homebuilt aircraft" 
List-Post: krnet@list.krnet.org
Date: Friday, May 29, 2009, 1:48 PM

NetHeads,

My wife recently bought me a gizmo to weigh my bag before I come back over from 
here (I didn't want to bring my 10-pound 400 lb scale that I bought for weight 
and balances), and it's only $15-$20 (at least that's what you would admit).  
Last night I was trying to figure out what else I could do with it, and it 
occured to me that it might as well have been custom designed to read stick 
forces!    It even reads in tenths of a pound.  See http://www.balanzza.com/ 
for details.  I think it was bought at Target or somewhere similar.  I smell 
stick force testing in the air.  The only irritating thing is that it locks in 
on a number after a second or so, rather than a continuous reading, but I think 
it'll be helpful.

Also, I'm in the middle of filling in my logbook (the last entry was November), 
and it looks like I'm going to break 760 hours in the KR.  The EIS info is how 
I really keep up with flights and hours.  I name each flight a "flight number" 
with a little description in the title like "LCL" or "OSH-return", and the 
hobbs hours are in the file.  Number of landings is easy...I just scroll 
through the airspeed and altitude columns to find where I slowed down below 50 
mph, and count each one of those as a landing.  It's either a landing or a 
crash, anyway. The date of the flight is the date of the EIS log file.   I also 
reference the EIS file number in the logbook entry, so I can always go back and 
find a second-by-second account of the flight if I ever need it.

Horton and Jones are tring to close the gap, but I'll be back for good in 2-3 
months.

Oh, and here's the link to where I went on the recent "bank holiday monday", 
May 25th.  See http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford/andover/durdle_door/ for what I 
think are some pretty cool pictures from 50 miles south of here. 

Mark Langford
N56ML "at" hiwaay.net
website at http://www.N56ML.com


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KR> Tri Gear Conversion

[Toad]

The way you explain your water landing is the same as an old gentleman 
explained to me how he put his Spitfire in the channel during the war.  A good 
man in the airplane flying next to him was giving him hand signals on how to go 
about the landing after also warning him that he had thick smoke trailing out 
behind him.  Pretty darn nice of the guy considering he was flying the ME109 
that caused the damage in the first place.  

Good to hear you and your aircraft made it safe and were both able to fly again.

Toad

--- On Mon, 4/20/09, Randy Smith <crz...@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Randy Smith <crz...@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: KR> Tri Gear Conversion
To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net>
List-Post: krnet@list.krnet.org
Date: Monday, April 20, 2009, 9:55 PM

I have put my KR in the water. It left a bruise across my chest from the belt 
but nothing else happened. I set up for 65 mph until I was about 5 feet off the 
water. I pulled back hard until the tail-wheel hit.  I stopped about 20 feet 
further. Still lacked 10 feet to shore. The folks at the airport watching said 
I put a splash up about 30 feet. All I know is when I came to a stop the plane 
was floating and I said to myself that was not bad at all. I had retracts but 
could not get them unlocked and still fly the plane. At that time we had pulled 
5 planes out of the lake all where totaled. I had mine back in the air within a 
week. Fiberglass and wood floats. Remember the thing is called a boat stage for 
a reason.
For those that were around in the early 90's know I went down a few times. I 
will tell you this,If you keep worrying about every little thing that can go 
wrong, flying is not for you. I have had a couple of friends that built planes 
and after constantly worrying about crashing they gave up flying. Don't mean to 
scare anyone off Just build it. If you are not comfortable with tail-wheels go 
nose draggier if you a comfortable go tail wheel it really does not make any 
difference in the air.

--- On Mon, 4/20/09, John Kitsch <johng...@comcast.net> wrote:

From: John Gotschall <johng...@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: KR> Tri Gear Conversion
To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net>
List-Post: krnet@list.krnet.org
Date: Monday, April 20, 2009, 9:22 AM

That's exactly why I want those retracts up and have a smooth underbelly
when putting down on the water.

jg



On Mon, 2009-04-20 at 11:05 +1000, Darren Crompton wrote:
> >
> > All my forced landing here in western Washington are probably going
to
> > be within reach of water..
> 
> 
> 
> Hi John
> 
> Choosing to land on water should be considered only as a last resort.  The
> deceleration forces are huge, if you survive the ditching you could find
> yourself unconscious or semi-conscious and end up drowning.
> 
> Cheers


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KR> vw engines, liability

[Toad]

Mark,

Unfortunately you are right about the worth of a signed statement from a 
passenger.  I was called in for jury duty a few years back for a lawsuit 
brought by the family of a overweight and out of shape young executive that had 
attended one of the adventure team building camps where they do scary stuff 
like traversing rope bridges and being supported by their counterparts from 
their same office.  The camp required that he sign a big liability waiver 
stating that the exertion and excitement could lead to death especially for 
someone in poor health and higher risk for such things.  The camp also required 
that he obtain and submit a note from his doctor stating that he was good to 
go.  Well, pudgy dropped dead and the family sued.  In the jury selection 
process they waived the liability waver in the air and explained what the camp 
had done to attempt to protect themselves, and said it still wasn't fair to the 
family.  Each of us potential jurors were
 asked questions to which we responded if we had had any experience along these 
lines.  I responded that I had been responsible for issuing liability waivers 
in a position I had once and that it was extremely frustrating to see that 
regardless of a business's attempt to protect themselves and cause the signer 
to accept their part of the risk, the result is that it still ends up in court. 
 Funny thing, I didn't get selected.  I saw later that the family lost the 
case, but of course the camp and their insurance company paid a lot of lawyer 
fees and prep costs.

I met the guy who sued Rutan and put an end to RAF plan sales.  The guy was not 
playing with a full deck and from what I saw of his work convinced me that he 
should have never been allowed to go near an airplane.  He sued and won and the 
homebuilt community lost huge.  Its just too bad that the guy lived through his 
crash, because the cause had nothing to do with the design other than the 
design allowed him to get it into the air in order to have the crash.

Its a sad situation with our legal system.

Toad
Denver

--- On Fri, 12/12/08, Mark Langford <n5...@hiwaay.net> wrote:
From: Mark Langford <n5...@hiwaay.net>
Subject: Re: KR> vw engines, liability
To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net>
List-Post: krnet@list.krnet.org
Date: Friday, December 12, 2008, 6:36 AM

Mark W wrote:

> So tell him you are doing a "dune buggy". You are doing
experimental
> aircraft... the risk is yours (clearly stated in the regs... his only risk
> is if he fails to provide what he advertises; i.e., if you crash after
> accepting his disclaimers, you need good insurance).


If you tell him you're building an "offroad vehicle", at least
you're not 
lying to him.  As for the risk, with the system we have in the U.S. today, 
anybody that has anything to do with an airplane is at risk, regardless of 
what the regulations say.  If somebody can convince a jury that the engine 
builder was negligent, he's going to be in financial trouble.  The guy I
buy 
my VW parts from that I use on my plane covers his ears when I start talking 
about airplanes, and starts singing songs and stuff.  I can't blame
'em. 
I'm starting to get very leary of flying passengers.  I can make people
sign 
statements all day long that they won't sue me if they die, but their 
families still can and probably will sue, and now my wife and family suffer 
even if I'm gone.  And if I take out a family of four in a crash, their 
relatives will likely sue my pants off, or at least my estate, and there is 
no amount of paper signing that will alleviate that possibility.

I'm not trying to start any kind of political argument, but until this 
country revises its legal system, that's the fear we live with, and why
it's 
stifling entrepreneurship around the country.  Things are a lot different in 
Europe where if you sue and lose, you pay both sets of lawyers.  People are 
a lot less likely to sue if they know it's frivolous and it's going to
cost 
them dearly to do it if they don't win...

Mark Langford, Huntsville, AL
mail: N56ML "at" hiwaay.net
website: www.N56ML.com 


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KR> automotive / aircraft engines

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"went flying, get this 400hrs."

 Please explain or try again.


--- On Thu, 12/11/08, ColdLake-Tim  wrote:
From: ColdLake-Tim 
Subject: Re: KR> automotive / aircraft engines
To: "KRnet" 
List-Post: krnet@list.krnet.org
Date: Thursday, December 11, 2008, 8:02 AM

Big thang would be Cast vs Forged Cranks. in the 80's gave a buddy a 1600cc 
VW w/ cast crank told him to swap it out to forged before he flew.Never 
did, pressed on a hub went flying, get this 400hrs.

CL-Tim



>   What is the difference between an automotive VW engine and an Aircraft 
> VW engine?  It say's he doesn't do "aircraft"
>Mike
+

the differences are too numerous to go in to here.  Totally different
applications.  A bit of research and study will bring out the details.

The reason he "doesn't do aircraft" is primarily for liability
reasons.
Also, he may not be knowledgeable of the changes necessary to
convert to aircraft use.

Larry Flesner


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